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Posted by biznology on Jul-11-2007 10:42:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
lol.

So fucking stubborn.

And Resistance is shit.


and the Wii is a fad, and i have neither the 360 or ps3.

you are all stupid|


Posted by RJT on Jul-11-2007 13:35:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
and the Wii is a fad, and i have neither the 360 or ps3.

you are all stupid|


For a fad, it's certainly doing better than the PS3

Fuck - iPods were a fad, and look at them now.

Now do you have anything relevant to contribute, or just a few more attempts at inflammatory rhetoric?


Posted by chach on Jul-11-2007 14:44:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
and the Wii is a fad, and i have neither the 360 or ps3.

you are all stupid|


You're an idiot look at the numbers worldwide be a little more informed before you come in trolling shitty statements


Posted by Porky on Jul-11-2007 20:46:

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Originally posted by DarkAngel
Konami prolly realized that it was a mistake to release MGS on Xbox, and will hopefully see that with MGS4.[/color][/b][/i]



i have to disagree with you on this one DA.

the last generation xbox only had a 20% market share, with the ps2 dominating with 70%+ share.

this generation is different, with xbox360 clearly in the lead, 6.5M xbox360 vs 1.5M PS3 in North America. That's almost 500% difference.

furthermore, MGS has proven to be a big seller in North America, and not in RPG-happy japan. with such a huge xbox360 installed base in NA so far, it would make economical sense to bring the franchise over to Microsoft.

Sometimes you need to argue with facts instead of emotion, sorry DA!


Posted by shaw on Jul-11-2007 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
i have never understood why poeple get angry when exclusive games hop on to other consoles... it doesnt affect you and your playing.. so why so angry?


because gamers are elitists, and they don't like the game being made available to people who they deem as being uninformed gamers for having bought another console in the first place, either due to blind hatred, or because they fear that the subsequent releases may cater to the desires of those masses, rather than to the "true" gamers.


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-11-2007 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Porky
i have to disagree with you on this one DA.

the last generation xbox only had a 20% market share, with the ps2 dominating with 70%+ share.

this generation is different, with xbox360 clearly in the lead, 6.5M xbox360 vs 1.5M PS3 in North America. That's almost 500% difference.

furthermore, MGS has proven to be a big seller in North America, and not in RPG-happy japan. with such a huge xbox360 installed base in NA so far, it would make economical sense to bring the franchise over to Microsoft.

Sometimes you need to argue with facts instead of emotion, sorry DA!



Apology not accepted and point declined. Now take a hike before I make sausage out of you and sell it to Satriale's meat market in fuckin' Jersey.

Stunod.

I stand by my opinion.


Posted by TheDemon on Jul-12-2007 00:32:

if you check out the new trailer here:

http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/...4_e32k7_eng.asx

at 5:52 sec it states simultaneous worldwide release. This could pretty much confirm it!!!!


Posted by RJT on Jul-12-2007 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
because gamers are elitists, and they don't like the game being made available to people who they deem as being uninformed gamers for having bought another console in the first place, either due to blind hatred, or because they fear that the subsequent releases may cater to the desires of those masses, rather than to the "true" gamers.


I agree with all of that except the last sentence, replace "true gamers" with "themselves" and I'm golden.


quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
Apology not accepted and point declined. Now take a hike before I make sausage out of you and sell it to Satriale's meat market in fuckin' Jersey.

Stunod.

I stand by my opinion.


That sounds about right.

Point to Pork then.


Posted by verndogs on Jul-12-2007 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
i have never understood why poeple get angry when exclusive games hop on to other consoles... it doesnt affect you and your playing.. so why so angry?


their console fanboy pen0r gets a lil more limp


Posted by shaw on Jul-12-2007 02:06:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I agree with all of that except the last sentence, replace "true gamers" with "themselves" and I'm golden.


it was implied, since we all know that the only true gamers are the ones who like what you do


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jul-13-2007 00:38:

I have no link, and no proof as of now, but I DID read on another forum from the Sony E3 press conference that MGS4 has been confirmed a PS3 exclusive. Take that as you wish, but I'm pretty sure the news is all over the web by now anyway.

Good for Sony, they need more guns.


Posted by RJT on Jul-13-2007 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I have no link, and no proof as of now, but I DID read on another forum from the Sony E3 press conference that MGS4 has been confirmed a PS3 exclusive. Take that as you wish, but I'm pretty sure the news is all over the web by now anyway.

Good for Sony, they need more guns.


I've been all over E3 coverage (legitimate and blog based) and haven't seen or heard anything to that effect.

Take it with a grain of salt until you can confirm it.

Edit: Also, I'll just go ahead and say what I'm sure all of you already know - a console "exclusive" like MGS4 (i.e. one that's cost millions to make) is really probably only going to remain "exclusive" for about a year, tops.

I'll wait it out if I have to.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-13-2007 01:01:

ahhh, you kids make me laugh


Posted by shaw on Jul-13-2007 01:27:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I have no link, and no proof as of now, but I DID read on another forum from the Sony E3 press conference that MGS4 has been confirmed a PS3 exclusive. Take that as you wish, but I'm pretty sure the news is all over the web by now anyway.


No, actually, the wording has been debated all over the place, because they said something like "it'll be the only place you can play it next year, when it comes out" or something vague like that. They didn't specifically say that it would be an exclusive past the time of release.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Jul-13-2007 01:52:

i really the fact that they missed Christmas 2007 doesn't mean their TITLE OF TITLES to revitalize such a software impotent system is being set for release for Christmas 2008


(which in turn, would give a short term of exclusivity if ^ is correct about the select choice of words)


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-13-2007 22:32:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I have no link, and no proof as of now, but I DID read on another forum from the Sony E3 press conference that MGS4 has been confirmed a PS3 exclusive. Take that as you wish, but I'm pretty sure the news is all over the web by now anyway.

Good for Sony, they need more guns.


Damn right!


Posted by babyvsrhino on Jul-14-2007 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
No, actually, the wording has been debated all over the place, because they said something like "it'll be the only place you can play it next year, when it comes out" or something vague like that. They didn't specifically say that it would be an exclusive past the time of release.

Not to mention, during the sony press conference, they introduced the makers of the game calling it exclusive.


Posted by RJT on Jul-14-2007 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
Damn right!


Awww, sorry DA - if you'd read the thread you'd have seen that was already disproven.

So sad.


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-14-2007 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Awww, sorry DA - if you'd read the thread you'd have seen that was already disproven.

So sad.



Just keep telling yourself that.


Posted by babyvsrhino on Jul-14-2007 20:59:

Funny, this press release says nothing of xbox, but has ps3 written everywhere

http://www.konami.com/ctlimg/konami..._11_e3_mgs4.pdf


Posted by shaw on Jul-14-2007 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by babyvsrhino
Funny, this press release says nothing of xbox, but has ps3 written everywhere

http://www.konami.com/ctlimg/konami..._11_e3_mgs4.pdf


nobody's claiming it's coming out any time soon, if at all. All that's been mentioned so far is the fact that their wording @ e3 was strange, to say the least, as it wasn't absolute in stating that 'THIS WILL NEVER BE ON ANOTHER CONSOLE.' It didn't sound like it was going to be out on 360--more like they either just failed to write the speech well enough, or that they were still in negotiations to keep it permanently exclusive (as opposed to having a release on 360 somewhere way down the line, as GTA did a few years ago), so they couldn't say anything yet.


Posted by RJT on Jul-14-2007 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
Just keep telling yourself that.


Hey, at least I'm not the one living my entire life in drug-fueled fanboy denial.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jul-14-2007 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I've been all over E3 coverage (legitimate and blog based) and haven't seen or heard anything to that effect.

Take it with a grain of salt until you can confirm it.

Edit: Also, I'll just go ahead and say what I'm sure all of you already know - a console "exclusive" like MGS4 (i.e. one that's cost millions to make) is really probably only going to remain "exclusive" for about a year, tops.

I'll wait it out if I have to.


This isnt proof here, but this is the site I read that gave me the indication that MGS4 is a PS3 exclusive.

http://e3.gamespot.com/story.html?s...estnews;title;4


A good ways down, you'll read:

[12:33] Tretton comes back to introduce "one last third-party platform," which he is "happy to say is only on PlayStation 3."

[12:34] Enter Hideo Kojima to introduce Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. He's nearly blinded by flashbulbs.


I dunno if that serves as 'proof', plus from the sound of things, you've probably already read that site anyway


Also, your point on 3rd party exclusives not staying exclusive for more than a year...I agree, but what gives with all these 360 exclusives NOT coming to PS3? Where is a PS3 Gears of War or PS3 Dead Rising? I'm not chapping you here, but rather bringing up the point that the PS3 isnt getting some of these games that were in fact developed by 3rd parties. Why not expand the audience?

The same could happen here with MGS4. It'll depend entirely on how it sells.


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-14-2007 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Hey, at least I'm not the one living my entire life in drug-fueled fanboy denial.



Keep on. You're just wasting your precious time on me with this useless banter.


Posted by RJT on Jul-15-2007 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
Keep on. You're just wasting your precious time on me with this useless banter.


That's right, I forgot. You already know how useless you are.

Fair play.


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