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Posted by Jer on Jul-13-2007 01:50:

Whoa - Quite the split!

I was kinda surprised how the tune progressed, I was expecting a little more variation on the rhythm through the whole thing. Ah well - Gives me something to mess around with when reworking it.

Side note: Daft Punk sampled Edwin Birdsong's 'Cola Bottle Baby' for 'Harder Better Faster Stronger' if memory serves.

Posted by Mr Moss on Jul-13-2007 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
- Those glasses are UBER GAY.

/thread

Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-13-2007 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
it's dope, Daft Punk being in video obviously approve as well...

Just what I was thinking. Oddly intrigued

Posted by geroin on Jul-13-2007 03:05:

absolutely pointless remix, kanye is a retard
i aso like how they named it

Kanye West feat. Daft Punk - Stronger

its more like Daft Punk feat KW, all he did was add a little beat to it and sang his lyrics, now hes gonna make millions because most "hiphopers" don't even know what daft punk is

Posted by Yohan on Jul-13-2007 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Just what I was thinking. Oddly intrigued

Free publicity

Apparently this Kanye West dude is pretty big

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jul-13-2007 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
absolutely pointless remix, kanye is a retard
i aso like how they named it

Kanye West feat. Daft Punk - Stronger

its more like Daft Punk feat KW, all he did was add a little beat to it and sang his lyrics, now hes gonna make millions because most "hiphopers" don't even know what daft punk is

I would have preferred

Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger (Kanye West remix)

Posted by geroin on Jul-13-2007 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I would have preferred

Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger (Kanye West remix)

it's not even a remix, its like a re-edit

Posted by waynoinsano on Jul-13-2007 03:30:

missy re-did one of their songs too not too long ago.
seems like when hip hop struggles to find new ways to develop itself it steals from other genres
i.e. these eyes - maestro (i forget the orig.)
this song
missys remix
and oh god the list is truely endless of hip hop productions that blaintly steal or sample just about anything in order to sound fresh.
truly i find it quite sad. at least electronic music, EDM, electronica whatever u preferr, reinvents itself by sub-dividing, refurbishing, and stretching its own limits.
IMO of course.

*que flame

Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-13-2007 03:36:

News flash people, EDM rips off and samples other people's music/beats too!

Jesus Christ, educate yourselves.

LOL @ waynoinsano. Get a fucking clue.

Posted by Jer on Jul-13-2007 03:38:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
it's not even a remix, its like a re-edit

Re-edit, Remix, respray, interpretation, envisioned concept.. It's all the same in the long run.

The breakbeat, the pads, stabs, bitcrushed edits, guitar, etc. are all him, only the vocoded sample and chord progression are Daft Punk so I think listing ft. Daft Punk is pretty fair. It's a blatant sample that tons will recognize from adverts and radio but I figure it'll work to both their advantages.

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jul-13-2007 03:44:

I heard Daft Punk co-produced it with Kanye tho.

Posted by waynoinsano on Jul-13-2007 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
News flash people, EDM rips off and samples other people's music/beats too!

Jesus Christ, educate yourselves.

LOL @ waynoinsano. Get a fucking clue.

why dont u find a rock, and die under it?
i never said EDM DOESNT DO IT i said it has other ways to re-invent iself.
did something crawl up your vagina and die? or do you have other reasons to be so fucking sour? i think i've had these kinds of debates with you prior to this.
news flash
dont respond to me, cause your fucked.
i pity your BF, and if ur single, that would make perfect sense.
plz. dont waste your time by responding to this, jsut accept this as the end of any partial conversation. but i know u will. you get your jollys off that kinda thing.
kthx

Posted by Jer on Jul-13-2007 03:52:

quote:
Originally posted by waynoinsano
and oh god the list is truely endless of hip hop productions that blaintly steal or sample just about anything in order to sound fresh.

That's pretty much the root of hip-hop right there. Seems to have worked pretty well!

quote:
Originally posted by waynoinsano
at least electronic music, EDM, electronica whatever u prefer, reinvents itself by sub-dividing, refurbishing, and stretching its own limits.
IMO of course.

That's just the problem - It's twelve of one and a dozen of the other. Kanye stepped out of the Hip Hop boundaries with something off the beaten path of most 'heads and morphed it into something accessible and catchy. So to be, that's stretching the limits.

Speaking of stretching the limits, those shutter-lens aviators are some bugged out shit.

Posted by Stilez on Jul-13-2007 03:53:

meh.

The real heads don't like this track that much.

I didn't care for the original too much, def. not something to write about, and this cover/remix/whatever isn't anything special either.

I do like the way Kany� is willing to try new things though. Hip hop is founded on the fact that they 'sample' other genres and tracks (eg. James Brown, blues, motown, rock, etc..). Most of you Top 40 turned EDM elitists know alot less about 'MUSIC' than you give yourselves credit for.

Posted by Jer on Jul-13-2007 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
LOL @ waynoinsano. Get a fucking clue.

Dear jennypie;

Your shit disturbing abilities have no equal. You're my hero.

Your number one fan,

~jer

Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-13-2007 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by waynoinsano
why dont u find a rock, and die under it?
i never said EDM DOESNT DO IT i said it has other ways to re-invent iself.
did something crawl up your vagina and die? or do you have other reasons to be so fucking sour? i think i've had these kinds of debates with you prior to this.
news flash
dont respond to me, cause your fucked.
i pity your BF, and if ur single, that would make perfect sense.
plz. dont waste your time by responding to this, jsut accept this as the end of any partial conversation. but i know u will. you get your jollys off that kinda thing.
kthx

Haha, I've been with my boyfriend for 9 years. Joke's on you, spaz.

Posted by waynoinsano on Jul-13-2007 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Haha, I've been with my boyfriend for 9 years. Joke's on you, spaz.

lol your sweet. gimme a hug.

Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-13-2007 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by waynoinsano
lol your sweet. gimme a hug.

*cock punch*

Posted by bossi on Jul-13-2007 04:09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw

Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jul-13-2007 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by bossi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw

Haha, nice.

Posted by Cro_Addict on Jul-13-2007 04:28:

Everyone should really stop bashing other genres. Most ppl here love to bash hiphop but don't know shit about it. Hip Hop and Rap do have different subdivions and sounds. You find a few artist out there that you hear on the radio and say ...WOW THEY SUCK...ITS ALL THE SAME. Why don't you listen to some underground hip hop....i guarantee that you would be very surprised. If you don't give it a chance...then you are the ignorant one.

Hate to burst the bubble, but just because you like EDM, does not mean everything else is complete shit. Its like someone hearing "This is not Miami" or "Put Your Hands up for Detroit" and say "WOW EDM IS GARBAGE...ITS ALL THE SAME...ITS CRAP....WAY TO BE CREATIVE". Some of you would be quick to fight back saying...."Wow ppl are soo ignorant, judging a whole genre by 2 tracks that are overplayed, commercialized and mediocre at best". So...stop being ignorant! And if you really wanna start bashing another genre of music, then please take time to learn more about it.

Hip hop was made on sampling??? and EDM has never sampled? RIGHT

The point is, there are tons of genres of music. Not everyone has to like everything! Listen to what you like, but be respectful of others.

One final note: I find that EDM fans are quick to point out how ignorant other people are of EDM....but in fact they themselves are the most ignorant.

My $0.02

Posted by eRRaTiK on Jul-13-2007 04:51:

i don't bash hip hop.

i quite enjoy some hip hop.

this track though... sucks ballz.

Posted by I_Am_Vince on Jul-13-2007 05:15:

Cruz & The White feat. DJ Steph - Make It Faster

FTW!!

Posted by UmmiE on Jul-13-2007 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
i don't bash hip hop.

i quite enjoy some hip hop.

this track though... sucks ballz.

+1

Posted by Cribby on Jul-13-2007 05:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Stilez
meh.

The real heads don't like this track that much.

I didn't care for the original too much, def. not something to write about, and this cover/remix/whatever isn't anything special either.

I do like the way Kany� is willing to try new things though. Hip hop is founded on the fact that they 'sample' other genres and tracks (eg. James Brown, blues, motown, rock, etc..). Most of you Top 40 turned EDM elitists know alot less about 'MUSIC' than you give yourselves credit for.

+1 agreed with everything said

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