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Originally posted by nefardec maybe for someone like digweed going to a new club for the first time, but it's cool for a residency at a small club with a proper scene.

I guess so, but I like to be able to see as many people's reactions as possible.

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Originally posted by Clovis I guess so, but I like to be able to see as many people's reactions as possible.

I'm with Clovis.
Sorry but you have to be able to see people, and also the Booth in the pictures isn't on the Floor, it is actually raised, either that or they happen to be the worlds tallest DJs.

A Booth doesn't have to be 60 feet in the air. In theory the logic behing the height of the booth should be dictated by the size of the venue. I know for a fact that many people want to see the DJ. A charismatic DJ with good skills can blow the roof of a place, more so than any technical genius.

Cheers
Nem

@nem,

you're of course correct about the charisma and what not, but i am questioning whether the scene is too much about charisma and less about dynamic mixing. some deejays i have seen live like theo parrish are relatively sedate within the booth, but the things they are doing to the music are more dramatic and engaging than most.

sure, charisma can sell tickets and drinks on one night, but does it do anything good for dance music in the bigger picture. it's this commercial/instant gratification mindset that hinders progress, i think, and keeps the blows falling on the dead horse

i realize that i am a bit idealistic


i wasn't saying that every club should have a sunken booth - i was only using it as a real-life example to illustrate my point that you don't necessarily need to see the dj in order to dance at a club. i think people need to be themselves and be individuals without this dj father figure nonsense

i think clovis is right though about the dj needing to see the crowd however. in my personal experience interacting with the crowd doesn't mean jesus poses and what not, but just being able to see your handiwork and feel connected to the dancers

there are a myriad of factors involved in getting crowds hyped up and what not....the dj booth location to me seems paramount because the dj is a performer and is just like any other artist at that....so why would you claim that he not be the center of attraction charismatic type?

last time i checked, most good dj's are producers too. therefore, seeing the connection between your music and the crowd can most certainly contribute to the development of the scene.

i know my argument is somewhat broken, however i do think that some of you are forgetting the role of dj's. The dj is actually the liason between the artist and the people. almost all people wouldn't know about music less it was played by some sort of dj whether radio dj or an a"real" dj/producer. the dj is that bridge...

there are a myriad of factors involved in getting crowds hyped up and what not....the dj booth location to me seems paramount because the dj is a performer and is just like any other artist at that....so why would you claim that he not be the center of attraction charismatic type?

last time i checked, most good dj's are producers too. therefore, seeing the connection between your music and the crowd can most certainly contribute to the development of the scene.

i know my argument is somewhat broken, however i do think that some of you are forgetting the role of dj's. The dj is actually the liason between the artist and the people. almost all people wouldn't know about music less it was played by some sort of dj whether radio dj or an a"real" dj/producer.

look this is my point:

this is not charisma, this is wrong


this is charisma

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Originally posted by nefardec

That's Mili Sefic there with Danny, one of the best fucking house DJ's in all of Chicago

Also seen here:



I absolutely love getting to play alongside that fellow

whether you like it or not, avb has charisma too.

if someone manages to get such huge support and fan base then he is doing something right.

i believe that other guys you posted(richie,sven,howl...) they are charismatic too, but think about this. the term underground is a packaging too. it's not all pink and fluffy and saint. they are presenting the product to you (the consumer) differently, knowing how you think,what your believes and viewes are on music,what u like, what u don't like. knowing all this they approach you with the right words, media.... They know which is the most efficient way to present you their product, so that you buy it.

Yeah AVB is great at crying on stage to his own music. It makes me cry too.

AVB does have Charisma... PVD might as well DJ in a hole in the ground though.

@Nef
I understand what you mean though. I just think that maybe at a club isn't the right forum to educate DJs. There are better forums. I think that the clips on youtube with Zabiela have done far more for the development of CDJing than seeing him do it live. Gives people a chance to study it and absorb.

Although what would be cool is DJs playing head to head in a Gladiator pit style arena. Probably more suited to Turntablists though.

Cheers
Nem

rh, villalobos, and those guys are equally guilty of holding concert like shows

i think the only difference is more debauchery at their events

I suport concert and outdoor events on the other hand.

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if someone manages to get such huge support and fan base then he is doing something right.

*obligatory special olympics winner/loser joke*

since when is deejaying about a fan base?

i always thought deejaying was about playing other people's music in a public setting.


maybe armin should run for political office or start a sitcom or a new religion. seems like he's in the wrong field to me.

anyways it's not hard to build up a fanbase when you are a pandering tool with a businessman's attitude. you know if you need to make money you do what you have to do. but i highly doubt he needs anymore money than he has, and now he's clearly driven only by ego and his deep promethean desire

He's gotta be the most banal person on the face of the earth (or underneath the face as well) as evidenced by the fact he went to law school even though he is a world famous DJ. Oh man tax law is soooo fucking exciting! I guess that is why he creates and plays boring music.

Adam, Armin isn't even near the booth in that pic


I posted that in MD, that shit is just wrong.

I like how he has a little runway so he can walk out and do the Jesus pose.

copied it from your thread, clovis

haha whatever


in short, people need to care more about music and less about celebrity - i think the booth and club design can actually affect that tendency

well you guys cant ignore that he's also a producer. I don't think there is anything wrong with producers having a fan base. Now rockstar poses on album covers or any type of revealing face picture of the artist on a compilation cover, now THAT is wrong. But I agree with adam, unless the guy is so damn good and making songs and remixes on the fly he should never be seen as a celebrety or anyone special. just as a professional.

That 'runway' was for the special guests. And whether you like Armin or not, he's still a fucking damn good DJ: he knows what he's doing.
I don't know why people are against having a fanbase and following. It just seems natural that when you are doing something that people like, then some kinda collective would form as a social side effect.
And about the DJing...yes, it's playing other people's music in public places, but doing with style and individual flair. That's when support seems to be warranted, and should be.

Good discussion. My two favourite clubs have both got different styles of booth, one on ground level that you could stand right beside the booth if you so wished, although hardly anyone does.

The other is slightly elevated, maybe about 4-5 feet off the ground. Both are equally good.

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Originally posted by idoru Of course it'd be a hell of a lot more entertaining to watch Milligan spin. If you haven't seen him rock four decks, I highly suggest looking him up on Youtube. Fucking brilliant.

just did that...and

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Originally posted by dJohn That 'runway' was for the special guests. And whether you like Armin or not, he's still a fucking damn good DJ: he knows what he's doing. I don't know why people are against having a fanbase and following. It just seems natural that when you are doing something that people like, then some kinda collective would form as a social side effect. And about the DJing...yes, it's playing other people's music in public places, but doing with style and individual flair. That's when support seems to be warranted, and should be.

He's just playing other people's records. Sasha, Howells, they have fanbases too, and you don't see them running up a catwalk to bask in the collective ahhs of a clueless public. It's called grandstanding, and it's making the DJ out to be something he's not: GOD.

Tenaglia does this, but you know what? He jumps in the crowd and starts dancing WITH THEM. Because he knows it's mostly not about him, it's about the music.

I dig it when the cats setting up the show puts a camera looking down on the decks/mixer and projects it. It's quite neat to see the decks and mixer on a big projection screen, then everyone gets to watch the fun.

Not often this happens, but I've been to a few parties with such.

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