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Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jul-24-2007 06:30:

seriously, you khants have got issues


Posted by Aesthetic on Jul-24-2007 06:36:

im gonna take drugs to deplete my seretonin levels,

then im gonna take drugs to increase them again

your body loves you, taranis... knobcheese.


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jul-24-2007 06:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Aesthetic
im gonna take drugs to deplete my seretonin levels,

then im gonna take drugs to increase them again

your body loves you, taranis... knobcheese.



you smell like urine


Posted by Aesthetic on Jul-24-2007 06:47:

..alot?

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic
you smell like urine


Posted by Taranis on Jul-24-2007 07:25:

I don't do it all that reguarly, all considered, but once I hit 18 I'll be going out more, and I'm realistic enough to know that when I'm around drugs more, I'll be doing drugs more. Might as well at least be safe about it. I'd rather use the proper supplements to prevent myself become another burnt out etard.

It's not like I intend to drop twice a week as soon as I start using this stuff. But I will, in all likelyhood, be doing it more than the once every 2 months recommended to prevent tolerance/health issues.

It's partially financial as well. Low tolerance = less pills to get high = more fun out of the same quantity of pills.

It's kind of win/win really.


Posted by 00soups00 on Jul-24-2007 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Taranis
Funkpill? Not that I know of, it's this, a supplement that supposedly prevents neurotoxicity and tolerance build up from ecstasy use.




take another drug to help prevent the effects of an initial drug.

sounds like a good idea to me


Posted by springhit on Jul-24-2007 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Taranis
I don't do it all that reguarly, all considered, but once I hit 18 I'll be going out more


Not even 18 yet, keep doing heaps of pills & ice also get some lsd & i'm tipping you'll be spending your 18th in rehab


Posted by Taranis on Jul-24-2007 07:36:

quote:
Originally posted by springhit
Not even 18 yet, keep doing heaps of pills & ice also get some lsd & i'm tipping you'll be spending your 18th in rehab



Never touched LSD, never done ice except for the times I've been sold it in E pills. How out of touch are you that semi-regular E use qualifies someone to somehow be some kind of junky?

Jesus, I'm trying to make my drug use safer, drop the double standard BS, I imagine the majority of you have done more drugs than I have.


Posted by Deeman on Jul-24-2007 07:38:

Nobody on here does drugs taranis, no-one! + +


Posted by springhit on Jul-24-2007 07:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Taranis
I imagine the majority of you have done more drugs than I have.


Maybe, can't speak for anyone else though i'm more than 10 years older than you.

In saying that your not even 18 yet, therefore u probably don't go out to night clubs so why not wait?

It's your brain why not look after it for now? Whats the rush (pun)?

Don't worry about the piss taking all in fun knackers


Posted by Taranis on Jul-24-2007 07:52:

quote:
Originally posted by springhit
Maybe, can't speak for anyone else though i'm more than 10 years older than you.


Probably yeah, my point is my drug use is on the lower end of the scale compared to a lot of people out there, my age or otherwise.

quote:
In saying that your not even 18 yet, therefore u probably don't go out to night clubs so why not wait?


I go to clubs when I can get in (rarely), otherwise I get by going to other events I can get into. It's not like I run around dropping pills whenever I'm bored or something.

quote:
It's your brain why not look after it for now? Whats the rush (pun)?


What do you call taking supplements to prevent neurotoxicity, if not taking care of it?


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jul-24-2007 08:18:

lol i'd call it doing something really stupid
then doing something else slightly less stupid and hoping that makes it ok


Posted by Aesthetic on Jul-24-2007 08:23:

Look your avator says it all jockstrap. The fact that you drew your pupils to be so dilated as if its some fucken achievement makes me hope you take a 10 pack of the bad shit and die a horrible death.


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jul-24-2007 08:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Aesthetic
Look your avator says it all jockstrap. The fact that you drew your pupils to be so dilated as if its some fucken achievement makes me hope you take a 10 pack of the bad shit and die a horrible death.


roflmayo

pwnd


Posted by tachyon on Jul-24-2007 08:40:

lol, a guy came in here wanting some advise on how to improve his own health, but ended up being slammed for his supposedly irresponsible drug use.

only on au.ta



Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jul-24-2007 08:45:

quote:
Originally posted by tachyon
lol, a guy came in here wanting some advise on how to improve his own health, but ended up being slammed for his supposedly irresponsible drug use.

only on au.ta




lmao improving health, i would like to know how you arrived at that one


Posted by Taranis on Jul-24-2007 09:17:

Double standards are fun, wheee.

quote:
lmao improving health, i would like to know how you arrived at that one


Pretty sure using supplements is healthier than not using them.


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jul-24-2007 09:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Taranis
Pretty sure using supplements is healthier than not using them.



I'm not a doctor but probably not when your using drugs to try countering the effects of taking drugs

don't you watch house? it never works


Posted by 00soups00 on Jul-24-2007 09:27:

its hilarious at how some people fail to even realise the concept of how he isnt looking after his health to begin with by taking these drugs (especially being under 18).

At least if you're going to take them you should be tough enough to deal with the after effects rather then just masking them with another drug to make things better, or at least not pretend your doing yourself any favours by taking suppliments


Posted by Taranis on Jul-24-2007 10:00:

Obviously it's not the optimal health situation, but very few things are. I recognise this, and it's a decision I make.

The impression I've always gained that using 5htp with mdma makes it less of a health risk, not more, I've yet to see a single article on the subject that states otherwise, hell before this thread I've never even seen that opinion expressed.

I think it's a bit rich coming from this forum, to be lectured about drug use that is a hell of a lot more moderate than a huge number of people out there.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread, got the info and links I needed, thanks to those who provided them.


Posted by Philby on Jul-24-2007 10:58:

quote:
Originally posted by tachyon
lol, a guy came in here wanting some advise on how to improve his own health, but ended up being slammed for his supposedly irresponsible drug use.

only on au.ta




today is tuesday, duh


Posted by gumble on Jul-24-2007 13:29:

well put it this way: how many of you take berocca after a big night on the piss?

or even something like an Up n GO.

its all about homeostasis, when your body is depleted in some essential nutrient, you need to replace it.

so dont form an argument based on someone replacing nutrients in thier bodies, just because this is about drugs.


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jul-24-2007 14:36:

replacing nutrient's isn't stupid

taking supplements to prolong your habit is imo

the whole reason people were payin him out was because he wants to take this supplement to prevent neurotoxicity, so he can take more drugs, which personally i don't think is gonna work out too well in the long run anyway

the idea that he wants it to improve his health, while admitting he's gunna up his drug use is laughable

i know most people here who have paid him out dont think their taking drugs is any better than him, just that they accept that drugs fuck you up, and nothin really makes it better.

if you wanna save your body, don't do it, or at least do it in small doses as infrequently as possible.


Posted by Taranis on Jul-24-2007 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic
replacing nutrient's isn't stupid

taking supplements to prolong your habit is imo

the whole reason people were payin him out was because he wants to take this supplement to prevent neurotoxicity, so he can take more drugs, which personally i don't think is gonna work out too well in the long run anyway

the idea that he wants it to improve his health, while admitting he's gunna up his drug use is laughable

i know most people here who have paid him out dont think their taking drugs is any better than him, just that they accept that drugs fuck you up, and nothin really makes it better.

if you wanna save your body, don't do it, or at least do it in small doses as infrequently as possible.


Ok, that's a fair point, I think people kind of misunderstood me here.

The idea was never 'get 5-htp so I can drop pills every friday/saturday with no side effects.' Obviously that's not going to work out, you're right.

But when I get to the point that I 'will' be going out a lot more, I'm going to be around drugs a lot more, and I have a realistic enough view of my personality to know that when I'm out and it's offered and everyone around me is feeling great, it's hard to refuse. So if I'm in a situation where I drop one weekend, then something rolls around within the next couple weeks and I want to drop again, then hopefully at least by using supplements I can prevent whatever side effects will come from that, be they tolerance, emotional/mental issues, health issues, whatever.

I'm not looking for a way to try cheat my bodies health and go binge on pills every weekend, but when the situation does come up that I want to do it in succession without the normal 1/2 month break, I can at least minimize whatever will result from that.

I mean yeah I could just take a strict 'once every 1.5 months, no exceptions' policy, but I know myself well enough to know that my chance of sticking by something like that is fairly low.


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jul-24-2007 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Taranis
Ok, that's a fair point, I think people kind of misunderstood me here.

The idea was never 'get 5-htp so I can drop pills every friday/saturday with no side effects.' Obviously that's not going to work out, you're right.

But when I get to the point that I 'will' be going out a lot more, I'm going to be around drugs a lot more, and I have a realistic enough view of my personality to know that when I'm out and it's offered and everyone around me is feeling great, it's hard to refuse. So if I'm in a situation where I drop one weekend, then something rolls around within the next couple weeks and I want to drop again, then hopefully at least by using supplements I can prevent whatever side effects will come from that, be they tolerance, emotional/mental issues, health issues, whatever.

I'm not looking for a way to try cheat my bodies health and go binge on pills every weekend, but when the situation does come up that I want to do it in succession without the normal 1/2 month break, I can at least minimize whatever will result from that.

I mean yeah I could just take a strict 'once every 1.5 months, no exceptions' policy, but I know myself well enough to know that my chance of sticking by something like that is fairly low.



all i'll say is don't wait till you're 25 to realise that's not really an excuse

grow some balls.

my understanding is it doesn't really help you in terms of health, it just helps your body produce serotonin so you don't feel so crap the next day.

you're probably gunna burn out in a few years like the rest of us anyway...just so long as you understand this shit doesn't negate the fact that you fried your brain the night before.


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