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Posted by Frenchie on Jul-24-2007 00:18:

Parents who hit their kids wonder why their kids hit them back when they're older. If I had a parent who hit me, I'd hit them back. Fuck this hitting your kids shit, it's wrong.


Posted by verndogs on Jul-24-2007 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
yea well she's lucky enough in the first place to even be picking out a candy bar at all. that's how i see it. if you're gonna act like a little snot when i tell you to hurry and chose one, u dont get one. lol


and that's the way it should be


Posted by Domesticated on Jul-24-2007 00:18:

There's NEVER been a more appropriate time to post this gem:


Posted by Slylee on Jul-24-2007 00:20:

yea that was totally me when i was little. true story.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jul-24-2007 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
There's NEVER been a more appropriate time to post this gem:



Posted by SuspicionVandit on Jul-24-2007 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
this gem:


gold

I'd just physical force to discipline(not abuse!) my kids. But if one day I'd realize that my kids grew up not having learned anything from that discipline, I'd put myself on the 6 month waiting list for a handgun....


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-24-2007 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Parents who hit their kids wonder why their kids hit them back when they're older. If I had a parent who hit me, I'd hit them back. Fuck this hitting your kids shit, it's wrong.


bollocks. there's nothing wrong with some negative re-inforcement. kid's need a bit of fear otherwise they have the potential to turn into little shits.

if you dont wanna hit your kids, then dont. but dont apply that judgement to the rest of us coz we love a little brutalisation.


Posted by Slylee on Jul-24-2007 00:59:

i would like to think that i will have enough angry/stern tone in my voice and looks that could kill to get my point across with my children. swatting them on the ass would be my last resort, and only when they're little. that's not something i would make a habit of.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jul-24-2007 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
my dad used to rape me in public

thanks for sharing


Posted by Frenchie on Jul-24-2007 01:07:

Hitting your kids is wrong, I don't care if your parents are good people and did it, or if they are rotten and did it. It's wrong, wrong and oh ya, WRONG. If you teach your kids right from the start you shouldn't have to hit them in any way.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-24-2007 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Hitting your kids is wrong, I don't care if your parents are good people and did it, or if they are rotten and did it. It's wrong, wrong and oh ya, WRONG. If you teach your kids right from the start you shouldn't have to hit them in any way.


stating something over and over doesn't make it fact. tell us why it is supposedly wrong...


Posted by Frenchie on Jul-24-2007 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
stating something over and over doesn't make it fact. tell us why it is supposedly wrong...


To me it's abuse. Ovbiously to you it's not but I suppose slapping a women around when she doesn't make your coffee right is ok too? Baby, child, adult, elderly...hitting them soft or hard is still physical abuse, no?


Posted by Slylee on Jul-24-2007 01:11:

actually it is, i won't lie. it's pretty much teaching your children that it's ok to resort to violence when angry.

fact. even i'll admit it.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-24-2007 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
To me it's abuse. Ovbiously to you it's not but I suppose slapping a women around when she doesn't make your coffee right is ok too? Baby, child, adult, elderly...hitting them soft or hard is still physical abuse, no?


well, that depends. are the Baby, child, adult, elderly etc being a cvnt?

im not saying we draw blood or anything but children are simple creatures, not dissimilar to animals. and they respond to negative re-inforcement, including physical. i dont buy the nonsense of teaching your kids that violence is ok.

i used to get the odd whack from a wooden spoon and i was a better child for it.


Posted by Marc Summers on Jul-24-2007 01:16:

i'll hit my child to reprimand and discipline, nothing more


Posted by Slylee on Jul-24-2007 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
well, that depends. are the Baby, child, adult, elderly etc being a cvnt?

im not saying we draw blood or anything but children are simple creatures, not dissimilar to animals. and they respond to negative re-inforcement, including physical. i dont buy the nonsense of teaching your kids that violence is ok.

i used to get the odd whack from a wooden spoon and i was a better child for it.


children and animals respond better to positive reinforcement.


Posted by Orbax on Jul-24-2007 01:19:

you know something is going on when google images cant find a single picture of actual , happening right now, child abuse. I mean, I search for splicing electrical wires and ill get a guy with a forked dick but when I try to find beating kids, slapping children, etc...not a single thing. Not even a bruised kid.

fucking censorship


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-24-2007 01:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
children and animals respond better to positive reinforcement.


not when they're being cvnts. children and animals need a certain amount of fear in them. i know fear is what kept my naughtier tendencies in line.

you simply cant positively re-inforce a child that has no respect for boundaries.


Posted by Orbax on Jul-24-2007 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
children and animals respond better to positive reinforcement.


they respond to both equally well depending on the situation. reward only behavior is called addiction. Avoidance only is cowardice. having to choose, priceless beatings.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jul-24-2007 01:22:

Time outs don't work...the kids i see talking back to their parents..man.If i did that shit id catch a beating like you would not believe. Sure it made me an overall shitty person, but now my head is as hard as a football helmet and i can take a punch. I say beat your kids, because having a glass jaw sucks and we need to stop being pussies and realize that our kids can't do anything for their fucking selves anymore.


Posted by Slylee on Jul-24-2007 01:24:


Posted by Omega_M on Jul-24-2007 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
To me it's abuse. Ovbiously to you it's not but I suppose slapping a women around when she doesn't make your coffee right is ok too? Baby, child, adult, elderly...hitting them soft or hard is still physical abuse, no?


what the hell ? that's like taking the argument to the extreme. All alcohol consumers are alcoholics, all cigarette smokers have cancer and so on. People who slap their children occasionally are not known to be wife beaters. There are times when kids deserve a slap. And no, hitting them once in a while is not abuse.


Posted by Slylee on Jul-24-2007 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
Time outs don't work...the kids i see talking back to their parents..man.If i did that shit id catch a beating like you would not believe. Sure it made me an overall shitty person, but now my head is as hard as a football helmet and i can take a punch. I say beat your kids, because having a glass jaw sucks and we need to stop being pussies and realize that our kids can't do anything for their fucking selves anymore.


yea and look how fucking normal you turned out. lol


Posted by camsr on Jul-24-2007 01:26:

beat the shit out of that lil twerp, hot momma


Posted by Frenchie on Jul-24-2007 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
well, that depends. are the Baby, child, adult, elderly etc being a cvnt?

im not saying we draw blood or anything but children are simple creatures, not dissimilar to animals. and they respond to negative re-inforcement, including physical. i dont buy the nonsense of teaching your kids that violence is ok.

i used to get the odd whack from a wooden spoon and i was a better child for it.


See, I know what you're saying and ya most people would agree, well the ones who hit their kids I suppose. I don't care if my child is being a rotten brat or not, I'm still not "smacking" them anywhere on their body to reinforce my statement.

Kids are not as stupid as most would like to think that they are. They see you get mad, you hit them (even once does the trick) and they think that, " Oh, well mommy hit me when she got mad so when i do that its ok because she did that" ( using mom as an example)

I pulled a fit ONCE in a store because some kid pushed me. My mom bent down, looked me in the eye and said if you EVER pull a fit like that again, I'll leave you here. I never once talked back, smart mouthed or pulled a fit ever. My mom never hit my, belted, took a spoon to me. I don't see the need. hitting them doesn't do anything but let them know that, " eh, i'll get hit, mom will forget about it and i can do it again"


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