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Posted by ingentis on Apr-18-2002 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by wookieslut


ucsb is fucking dope...if i spin a party in Isla Vista any time soon(the neighboring party town) i will let you know. Yes and most of the people in my major are fucking nerds who always fuck up the curves on the exams.



hahaha a normal mofo like myself, i havent started college yet but im taking the plunge this fall.....spring...


Posted by JohnSmith on Apr-18-2002 22:59:

I got a diploma in computer systems operations and management, which can be bridged into a Bachelor of Technology and applied Computer Science.

I am a programmer, i do mostly HTML and ASP, some javascript.

I can also do visual basic and C++, but i don't get a chance too much.
I don't make much money, like $30,000.

and I LOVE trance, learning to DJ, getting decks soon.
I plan on writing my own DJing program, or enhancing DTT, writing winamp plugins etc.

and yeah, all the people in my class were nasty too.


Posted by whiskers on Apr-19-2002 04:14:

quote:
Originally posted by AnotherWay83
im still a freshman, and the unis i wanna transfer to dont require any CS courses in the first 2 years, so i haven't taken any CS classes, just teaching myself stuff, but i've always wondered, how do they test u in these CS courses? do they take u to labs and tell u to write programs within, say, 30 minutes, or do they print out source codes and ask u to point out errors...i just can't imagine how they would test ur knowledge in a CS course without taking u to the lab and asking u to do stuff on computers...

peace


my high school C++ AP teacher gives us all these little annoying functions to write...
studying for the stupid AP exam, they give you a piece of code and tell you to find out what it does/the output/if there's an error/how some part could be replaced. weird stuff like that.

there are a lot of asian kids in my class, like 40%. 10% are russian the rest is american. not many nerds though...


Posted by tranceaholic on Apr-19-2002 04:36:

hey wookieslut i feel ur pain man. nerds ville in cs to all of u going into cs in college forget about girls lol. cs=geekville. thae parties over here are ok but all hiphop shit so i do my own thing the big boys come to town often. within the next month we got matt daery , johan gielen and john OO fleming and next week coachella tiesyo and oakie there so it is cool over here for trance u should come up dude.


Posted by trancaholic on Apr-19-2002 05:41:

quote:
Originally posted by AnotherWay83
how do they test u in these CS courses? do they take u to labs and tell u to write programs within, say, 30 minutes, or do they print out source codes and ask u to point out errors...i just can't imagine how they would test ur knowledge in a CS course without taking u to the lab and asking u to do stuff on computers...


In my education, we are tested through oral exams and project works. Each semester we follow 5 or 6 courses, and in the end we go to a 20 minute exam where the student start off with a 10 minute talk on a subject drawn at random from the book, and then the teacher and censor gets 5 minutes to ask questions and finally 5 minutes to evaluate you. One course per semester is evaluated through a project which is written by groups of 3 to 8 students. These exams last longer (3 to 7 hours) where the group starts giving a talk for about an hour and then there are questions for the rest of the time.

On the subject of using computers, I can say that we actually don't use them that much. Candidateship in computer science in Denmark is geared towards letting you understand concepts about computers and programs. Our courses are very theoretical, and deals with things such as decidability of problems and ways to control software development processes.
The project I'm currently involved in doesn't need computers at all. We're examining whether it's possible to apply modal logics to security protocols, which is really philosophy/mathematics at heart, so it's all formulas and proofs and no programming.

We get one introductory course on Java programming in the first semester, and then it is assumed that you acquire knowledge of other programming languages on your own (which people do).


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Apr-19-2002 05:52:

exactly, i mean i've always said that comp. sci != programming!!

alot of people think that a computer scientist is just another name for computer programmer, i used to think that too...but while its true that the two overlap alot, they are not one and the same thing, computer scientists deal with other problems like u spoke about, i dont know why sum ppl. can't understand the difference!! i've met too many ppl. like that...

peace


Posted by Durafei on Apr-19-2002 16:24:

At my school, to get a CS degree you need to take 11 math courses, 13 CS courses, and 14 electives(which can inlucde anything: math, cs, art etc)

In other words, you can get a CS degree with only 13 CS courses.
Some of the "fun" CS courses we have are: Operating Systems(course project is to write an operating system - of course not as complex as Windows, but still pretty big), Compiler Construction - in group of 4 you get to write C compiler, Concurrency, Algorithms etc.

I'm pretty sure though, any university offers same courses for CS degree.


Posted by Jocker on Apr-19-2002 16:35:

i'm a cs and a computer networking major. but my university is as shitty as it can only get. so the only source of computer knowledge for me is books.


Posted by Swamper on Apr-19-2002 17:30:



Yea, I got a comp sci degree...

I really don't like programming (ironically) but when I started this site I began to realize that if you want to have certain custom features you need custom programs... Trying to tweak existing programs to your own use sometimes works but not always..

So the site has really led me on paths/headaches in php/C/C++/java/javascript that I never planned on taking.. heh


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-19-2002 20:03:

Smile

Hmmmmmmmm..........dj rozzer........a msce and ccna at 18!.......you lie more than bill clinton. CCNA and MSCE take a lot of work to achieve. Your a bloody liar........stop boasting. I can see doing security work and helping with sites n shit but both of those certifications at 18......c'mon. Next thing you will tell me.......your CCIE before 20. Cut the bullshit out.


Posted by TranceRob on Apr-19-2002 20:50:

Yeah, I'm a CS Major. Graduating this May! Woohoo! I'm into pretty much all the Microsoft technologies... very knowledgeable about .NET, C#, and ASP.net. I've been working with computers since '88 and have been exposed to alot of stuff.


Posted by Durafei on Apr-19-2002 22:00:

quote:
Hmmmmmmmm..........dj rozzer........a msce and ccna at 18!.......you lie more than bill clinton. CCNA and MSCE take a lot of work to achieve. Your a bloody liar........stop boasting. I can see doing security work and helping with sites n shit but both of those certifications at 18......c'mon. Next thing you will tell me.......your CCIE before 20. Cut the bullshit out.



I don't know if DJ Rozzer lies or not, but I think it is possible to get those two certifications by the time you are 18. All you have to do is read a few books, get some practice and you got it.

The question is whether these certifications are of any use. I dunno about CCNA, but most Microsoft technologies become obsolete pretty quick.

Getting a university degree makes much more sense. The theoretical knowledge you get at university, never becomes obsolete.


Posted by _greggy_ on Apr-19-2002 22:02:

Hello
I programming in Delphi 5 Enterprise
I configure somes NT Server @ work and start to learn how use Linux @ home since 1 week.

Database : Access & SQL Server.
I want to learn how use Interbase & PHP but i've not time



For the members of the tranceadddict video group, i've programmed a soft to share vidz using audiogalaxy on an idea of Loginz. Zipping vidz and concatenate a little mp3 at the start of the zip file. So the new file can be played on Winamp & unzipping using Winzip.


Posted by Durafei on Apr-19-2002 22:02:

Btw, Swamper, are the forums we using your own creation? Or did you customize already existing forums?


Posted by TranceSeeker on Apr-19-2002 22:16:

Im software developer too.
Progress software...


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Apr-19-2002 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by _greggy_

For the members of the tranceadddict video group, i've programmed a soft to share vidz using audiogalaxy on an idea of Loginz. Zipping vidz and concatenate a little mp3 at the start of the zip file. So the new file can be played on Winamp & unzipping using Winzip.


ah...so YOU are the cause of all my video headaches..heheh..no offence, but this idea of adding a small mp3 to the start of the video has given me so many problems, i can only view a small fraction of the videos i get thru AG because of it...the problem is that there should be a program to REMOVE that mp3 at the begginning as well...because often when u add the mp3, even zip programs dont unzip it because they detect the mp3 at the start or sumthing like that

peace


Posted by malek on Apr-20-2002 04:49:

I have a 3 years college degree in computer science which basically gives you a formation to be a programmer. I had classes in C/C++/Java/VB/VC++/SQL/ASM/Cobol/lots of networkin and some other stuff...

Since I find programming a monkey-like buisness, I'm now almost finishing my 3 1/2 year(not including optional internships) bachelor at UQAM. My speciality is software engineering and is basically telling programmers (aka monkeys) how (by proper analysis and conception) to program a software. This bachelor has 4 buisness classes, 3 mathematic classes, 1 ethical class/1 choice of buisness or CS and 23 computer science classes. We didn't touch a single Microsoft product(?!), everything could've been done thru Linux. The languages I learnt are Ada(beurk)/Java/C++/C/SQL/some networking/UML notation/ Prolog/ Haskell /Spec notation /project management, software analisys and conception(patterns anyone?) and some other stuff. Also, this summer, I'll have a class about Person-Machine Interfaces. We also worked with some DOD/IEEE/ISO software dev. standards.

My favorite subjects are of course software engineering and data structures, my favorite language is Java, even tho its future isn't looking that bright now...

I know I won't do any software engineering in my first years in the job market because I don't have sufficent experience... but it'll come at some point

Here's some information about my program: http://www-s.regis.uqam.ca/Pdf/Part...tes/gp_7016.pdf (French only).

I hope this gives you an idea about my bachelor and what I learnt/learning.


Posted by Warpson on Apr-20-2002 04:59:

I'm in the Software Engineering Specialist Program at the university of toronto. I'm in my 3rd year. I enjoy it. I want to become a game designer. For a while I wanted to become a DJ, but I think I was just really into trance! I've kinda got over that.


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