Clubs vs Condos war now moving on to College St

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Posted by Yohan on Aug-01-2007 01:31:

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Originally posted by Stilez
There's actually a pretty interesting article written in TORONTO LIFE MAGAZINE by Denise Balkisoon called:

Party Monsters & The Toronto Club District

It explains alot of what's happening with the current 'dismemberment' of the Centralized Club District in T.O., and even talks about it's creation. It mentions how it was better when the illegal raves were happening there because at least the people running it were scared of getting caught, so they'd purposely keep everyone inside..into the wee hours of the morning...whereas the legit clubs now let everyone out around the same time all drunk and rowdy, etc...

I'd post it on here, but it's a fairly long article. I encourage whoever is interested in the current state of clubland to give it a read.

link?

Posted by Stilez on Aug-01-2007 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
link?

LINK

jk... here. REAL LINK

Posted by smuncky on Aug-01-2007 01:37:

some stats from the article which was posted on spacing.

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88: the number of clubs within one square kilometer bordered by Queen, Front, Bathurst and Simcoe � Toronto has the most concentrated club district in North America.
448: number of people charged with assault in the Entertainment district in 2006.
17: number of people charged with aggravated assault (a beating causing serious bodily harm)
86: number of charges of assault with a weapon (mostly smashed beer bottles and knives).
3: number of times a 12-year-old girl was stabbed in the head after leaving an all-ages party at Steam on Adelaide.
2: number of people killed.
3: number of Toronto neighbourhoods that received the temporary installation of closed-circuit cameras thanks to a provincial grant. These neighbourhoods included Malvern, Jane and Finch and the Entertainment district.
3: number of ounces of liquor bartenders were allowed to give customers per order until the Ontario government abolished the rule in 2003.
$500,000: the maximum fine a business faces for breaking laws that regulate the serving of alcohol.
Less than $1000: the amount courts usually fine club owners.
8: number of officers assigned to the Entertainment District Monday through Wednesday nights.
70: number of officers usually on duty Thursday through Sunday.
30,000 to 35,000: number of people in the area that Chris Fernandes, 52 Division staff sergeant in charge of clubland�s strategic plan, says his team of officers can handle.
Over 50,000: number of people that often cram into clubland Thursday through Sunday during the summer.
$125 million: amount the city estimates the Entertainment District generates in economic activity.

Posted by Yohan on Aug-01-2007 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Stilez
LINK

jk... here. REAL LINK

You fail.

And the article you're talking about is not available online

Posted by Stilez on Aug-01-2007 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
You fail.

And the article you're talking about is not available online

hahaha...i guess i guessed wrong, but that's why i said to go and read it. meaning..store etc.. I read it at work where they have a subscription to it.

But yeah...Smuncky quoted some of the stats in that article.

Posted by Yohan on Aug-01-2007 01:45:

^That does fuck all to me who happens to live in Kitchener

Posted by 7-4-7 on Aug-01-2007 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
This city is fucking itself over BIG TIME.

I really dont want to be here anymore.

that seems rash, no?

Posted by smuncky on Aug-01-2007 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
that seems rash, no?

dont wry, its just jay being jay

Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-01-2007 02:09:

you guys will see what will eventually happen to this city if we stay this course...

thats fine. By then it will be your loss, not mine

Posted by Skipper on Aug-01-2007 03:31:

Posted by drgoodvibe on Aug-01-2007 15:33:

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Originally posted by jchung52
theyre not thinking long term... condos are generally preferred by young professionals, not 5 member families. thats why you move to the suburbs. These younger professionals love the nightlife and by taking it away and putting up condos, it maybe good for a couple years but soon the realization that theres nothing to do at night or nothing nearby will kick in and everyone will move out

Actually this is incorrect. 30% of condo owners are indeed young professionals. 10% are between ages 30-45 and the overwhelming 60% is actually baby boomer's who have recently sold their suburban homes and bought a condo downtown in order to be closer to amenities within the city, community, etc..

You wouldn't imagine that young professionals living in the condo's nearby are complaining. It's the large baby boomer population / empty nester's who gave up their quiet large suburban homes for something smaller more manageable in the city. Only now they don't get the quiet so much anymore.

Posted by dEsidEL on Aug-01-2007 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
Actually this is incorrect. 30% of condo owners are indeed young professionals. 10% are between ages 30-45 and the overwhelming 60% is actually baby boomer's who have recently sold their suburban homes and bought a condo downtown in order to be closer to amenities within the city, community, etc..

You wouldn't imagine that young professionals living in the condo's nearby are complaining. It's the large baby boomer population / empty nester's who gave up their quiet large suburban homes for something smaller more manageable in the city. Only now they don't get the quiet so much anymore.

well.. stats seems to be slightly different down in the US

quote:

Saturday, March 31, 2007
Toronto Condos

A recent report on why Condo owners buy has just been published. The National Association of Home Builders survey says that nearly half of all condo buyers are looking for a lifestyle.

Here in Toronto that's exactly how the developers promote their new projects and the list of amenities is quite large with jogging tracks, health clubs, basketball courts, media rooms, barbecues and so on.

Two groups of condo buyers lead this group: young, well paid professional singles or couples who want to own their first home close to urban amenities.

The participants of 1,008 Condo buyers identified location and price as the top two reasons for buying their particular property. Size, neighbourhood desirability and investment potential determined their reason to buy as well.

Out of 3.7 million condos in the U.S, about 27% of the owners are 35 or younger and 18% are between 35 and 44.

The survey goes on to say, 28% of all condo buyers are 65 and older while just 13% are 55 to 64 and more than half of all condo buyers are single and just 9% are married with children.

New buyers are searching for the Toronto Condos lifestyle as well with the Toronto developers happy to assist them in their dream Condo.

source:
http://toronto-condos.blogspot.com/...nto-condos.html

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