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| Originally posted by Lilith I just don't want to die to some pin-dick who's sole purpose on the road seems to be to bully other road users and never takes their off road vehicle off road. |
LOL
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| Originally posted by L.E.N. |
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| Originally posted by Lilith I'm not getting angry about it, I just don't want to die to some pin-dick who's sole purpose on the road seems to be to bully other road users and never takes their off road vehicle off road. |
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| Originally posted by Lilith As for safety, I'm of two opinions about 4WD's. They're good on unsurfaced or very rough roads, however they have very poor road holding when it comes to high speeds, corners and you can do what you want to them to try and improve it. But they're still at the mercy of physics. Safety is quite subjective to the self it seems, no one thinks of what happens to the people you might happen to hit, they're not safe. It's harder to pull up 2-3000kg than it is to do the same with 1500 and you can't do much except lower the vehicle when it's mass is much higher, that defeats the purpose of having a 4wd, which is ground clearance. People movers do a good job, they hold a lot of people, cargo and they're not just a converted van chassis any more. |
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| Originally posted by Omega_M LOL |
repost. 
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| Originally posted by squirrelly Damn straight. God damn I want to shoot someone when some massive SUV is riding my little honda's ass. It would get it's ass kicked in a car fight. What good are SUV's if you're not going to off-road them? |
also, this all boils down to a very simple idea.
If you think SUV drivers are safer than others, then buy an SUV. If you think the safety of them is outweighed by advantages of size, convenience, gas mileage, price, & image, then you've made the choice to buy something else, and should be able to recognize that someone else made a different choice (and one that you could also have made).
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| Originally posted by inconspicuous maybe not anger, but sure is something like it. |
what's wrong with playing devil's advocate?
It's amusing I suppose if you're entertained that way.
as a middle-aged druggie and alcoholic, i occasionally live in my toyota 4runner. true story. 
Not so much entertained by it as I am irritated by hearing the stereotype bandwagon rolling through town, blasting the same old anthems.
There's a reason stereotypes exist, it's basically because we aren't all little individual, special snowflakes nearly as much as numpty PC-education systems and advertising like to make us out to be.
well i finally bought a new vehicle,
what do you think?

The Grizzly
vehicle link
and none of those hiveminds is big enough to include everyone. There's no single stereotype that's universally applicable or even accepted, no matter how many people in one circle can laugh at it.
The whole SUVs = crazy, hick soccer moms from bumblefuck, USA, who vote republican for no reason, hate gays, and are too stupid to understand the environment is what's behind this plug, anyway, and it's just tired and ignorant.
I've watched the Grizly in action on Future Weapons. I hate the anchor of that show. Comes off more like a twat than anything else. Anyways, but the Grizzly is an awesome truck with V-bottom design and all for IED protection. Have they been deployed in Iraq yet ?
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| Originally posted by Omega_M I've watched the Grizly in action on Future Weapons. I hate the anchor of that show. Comes off more like a twat than anything else. |
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| Originally posted by Omega_M I've watched the Grizly in action on Future Weapons. I hate the anchor of that show. Comes off more like a twat than anything else. Anyways, but the Grizzly is an awesome truck with V-bottom design and all for IED protection. Have they been deployed in Iraq yet ? |
no problem !
I want one 
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| Originally posted by inconspicuous if you drive 15,000 miles per year in a car that gets only 10 miles per gallon (as the very worst, like the cadillac, do...even the bigger hummers get 12-15 or something), you're still only paying an extra $1500 per year from a $1 increase in gas prices. If somebody's paying $6,000+ per year just for a lease on something, it's not so insane, especially since a much more reasonable number, like 20 mpg for 10,000 miles is only an extra 500 bucks a year. OMG HOW DO YOU PAY FOR GAS is a pretty pointless question. |
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| Originally posted by tubularbills over a period of about (just under) two years, i spent about $2100 on gas. (made a thread about it, somwhere). $2100 / ~23 months = <100 a month. relatively affordable, especially when the truck payment is $371 a month. |
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| Originally posted by inconspicuous I was referring to the cost of the increase in gas prices only--not even total cost (from $2 to the current $3 or so). So yeah, I was being more than conservative with those figures |
I think it's about 2.80 or 2.90 here.
haven't done much driving lately.
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