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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery ...and when you've found the one you like and already worn it out? It really isn't that complicated, is it.

Indeed.

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You sound like a person that calls EDM simply 'techno'.

I've been listening to this stuff daily for about 7 years now. For awhile I thought it was pretty varied (and in some ways it is), but when you get down to the basics it's really all just boom boom music, the rest is just sugar on top. That's what I've become bored of - because the sugar on top isn't enough anymore.

Well, I think I went through a similar phase too when I was listening to a lot of trance. I got simply sick of that sound and wanted a change. First, I started exploring other EDM genres and then moved on to practically everything. One day, I listen to post-rock, some Pink Floyd, some Nine Inch Nails, the next day, I'm browsing through new tech/deep house releases. Sometimes, I'm in a mood for some downtempo. It's this variety that prevents me from getting completely jaded.

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Originally posted by Project-K I've been listening to this stuff daily for about 7 years now. For awhile I thought it was pretty varied (and in some ways it is), but when you get down to the basics it's really all just boom boom music, the rest is just sugar on top. That's what I've become bored of - because the sugar on top isn't enough anymore.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe I have that fortune that I can't picture myself listening to anything else beside EDM. I've been listening to it for 7 years (good stuff for 4-5 years) and I'm not even remotely bored of it.

Kind of odd that people sometimes see contemporary trance as being of 'low production' quality, if anything I think the sound quality and precision it's put together, is generally of as high a standard as it's ever been.
What it is lacking though is substance and feeling having moved from it's roots as a marginal genre of underground producers who made it for fun rather than a dollar, seems to have manufactured just a whole lot more mediocre, flash in the pan trance than ever before. Hence you can sometimes get the overall impression that the entire trance genre isn't moving anywhere which is extremely frustrating when it comes to finding decent tracks.

So I do what Ian's basically described, dig up old trance classic stuff, listen to EBM, D&B, rock, Psy, Goa and old acid tracks. Heck if it gets real nasty and desperate I drag out old Euro, Chicago hardcore techno and gabba

I listened to dance music more or less exclusively for a while and got kind of bored of it, too. My advice would be just to listen to lots of stuff other than dance music. Try to listen to three or four non-EDM songs for every EDM song you listen to. Try learning about and listening to genres you thought you'd never be interested in (jazz? soul? blues? classical? I don't know your tastes, but I'd bet there's something out there), and with each one try to find things to like about it. I've found that has done a lot for the development of my musical tastes: actively trying to learn about musical forms that I'm ignorant of. It also helps create a feeling of "freshness" when I listen to EDM since within the same day / hour / week I've been listening to lots of things that sound nothing like EDM.

I'm guessing if you came to EDM straight from the "pop-rock" radio crap, you didn't do a lot of exploring with less-popular non-EDM stuff. Maybe I'm wrong on that. I just know that EDM was the first non-radio stuff I ended up liking a lot, and for a while I listened to only EDM (and really only trance and prog house at one point). That can get really stifling. So if you're burnt out you should probably explore, use some of your music-listening time on a bunch of non-EDM.

I bet you can find some genres that are worth it.

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Originally posted by Lilith Kind of odd that people sometimes see contemporary trance as being of 'low production' quality, if anything I think the sound quality and precision it's put together, is generally of as high a standard as it's ever been. What it is lacking though is substance and feeling having moved from it's roots as a marginal genre of underground producers who made it for fun rather than a dollar, seems to have manufactured just a whole lot more mediocre, flash in the pan trance than ever before. Hence you can sometimes get the overall impression that the entire trance genre isn't moving anywhere which is extremely frustrating when it comes to finding decent tracks.

Okay, maybe it's not low quality production, but it's way too generic. You've heard one, you've heard them all.
That's what bothers me about today's trance. That's why I stopped listening to it completely.

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Originally posted by Lilith So I do what Ian's basically described, dig up old trance classic stuff, listen to EBM, D&B, rock, Psy, Goa and old acid tracks. Heck if it gets real nasty and desperate I drag out old Euro, Chicago hardcore techno and gabba

I also enjoy "older" (1998-2001) trance from time to time, but you can't live in the past... So I moved on to other subgenres that are still good no matter what year they're from.

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Originally posted by Gauss I also enjoy "older" (1998-2001) trance from time to time, but you can't live in the past...

There's so much of great old music that you or me haven't heard yet... Even if people stopped making music right now, there'd still be so much to listen to for the rest of your life.

You're not alone, I haven't been interested with the majority of todays EDM for last year or so and especially within the last 2 or 3 months. I'm guessing the reason for this is because I've been listening to it since I was 12 (I'm now 20) and have went through trance, house, garage, eurodance and techno. I couldn't get into the other subgenres and I still can't.

I've naturally moved on to jazz, acid jazz, classical, ambient, soundtrack, synth pop and alternative. The only EDM I listen to now is anything that was made from 1997-2004.

I can't see myself going back to it anytime soon or at all for that matter. They say 'never say never', but I strongly doubt it'll happen.

Listen to whatever you want to listen to. If you're bored of something, don't listen to it. Listen to something you do like. If you can't find anything non-electronic you do like, broaden your mind.

I've never got bored of electronic music, because I've never got bored of music. As long as I enjoy music, I'll enjoy electronic music, because there's so many great electronic records I can't listen to all of them frequently enough to get bored of them. Over-familiarity is the only way to get bored of something, and I've never listened to one genre exhaustively.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Listen to whatever you want to listen to. If you're bored of something, don't listen to it. Listen to something you do like. If you can't find anything non-electronic you do like, broaden your mind.

"Broaden your mind." Fine, I'd love to do that. Like how?

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Originally posted by noikeee "Broaden your mind." Fine, I'd love to do that. Like how?

Why LSD of course.

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Originally posted by noikeee "Broaden your mind." Fine, I'd love to do that. Like how?

Well the unhelpful answer is to listen to any genre of music on its own terms. Don't bring an electronic perspective to jazz or soul or whatever. I've found that a lot of people don't like other music because it doesn't fulfill their expectations. It's almost as though people have a mental checklist that music must tick off if it's to appeal to them.

Really, electronic music has touched so many other styles that someone who listens to a wide variety of it should already like a lot of principals of other genres. Given that the only parameter for electronic music is that it is primarily electronic in foundation, there's already been a huge amount of inter-genre pollination.

If you take away things you like about various genres that are electronic in source, there should still be things left. Appreciation of good rhythm, good melody. Energy, aggression, soul, evocation. You can find all of them in other music. If you like sweeping, epic electronic music you can find the same properties in film scores, which leads into classical. If you like the rhythm of good breaks, you can find it in funk, where it came from. If you appreciate good, memorable hooks, rock and pop are overflowing with them.

Ok, fair enough. I guess my limited taste is somewhat related to not exploring music all that much in the last couple of years, unlike when I got into EDM and had to download everything audiogalaxy and my 33k modem would let me.

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Originally posted by Project-K I've been listening to this stuff daily for about 7 years now. For awhile I thought it was pretty varied (and in some ways it is), but when you get down to the basics it's really all just boom boom music, the rest is just sugar on top. That's what I've become bored of - because the sugar on top isn't enough anymore.

Have you considered checking out downtempo or experimental stuff?

Re: Getting bored of EDM

The reason for the lack of interest is pretty clear to me:

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Originally posted by Project-K I don't go to parties, I don't go to dance clubs either.

EDM stands for electronic DANCE music. From my point of view going to clubs and festivals is one of the best factors of EDM. Listing to tracks and sets at home is great. But actually going to a club and listening to a great dj brings it to a whole different level.

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Originally posted by basvh But actually going to a club and listening to a great dj brings it to a whole different level.

So people keep saying, but it doesn't really matter where you listen to the music if you just aren't into it.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Listen to whatever you want to listen to. If you're bored of something, don't listen to it. Listen to something you do like. If you can't find anything non-electronic you do like, broaden your mind. I've never got bored of electronic music, because I've never got bored of music. As long as I enjoy music, I'll enjoy electronic music, because there's so many great electronic records I can't listen to all of them frequently enough to get bored of them. Over-familiarity is the only way to get bored of something, and I've never listened to one genre exhaustively.

For the record I still like electronic music, it's specifically dance music I'm tired of. I'm not looking for suggestions of new music to listen to, I'm just saying it sucks that I spent so much time and money on this hobby while at the time I thought I'd be into this stuff forever, and here I am already tired of it. For the last few years my favorite hobby was discovering and collecting new house records. Now I've got this huge collection and I'm not really enjoying it anymore. :/

Also it makes me wonder if the same thing will happen to all the music I'm enjoying now, and if so, then is it really worth all the trouble to collect so much of it?

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Originally posted by Project-K Not that many are significantly different. You've got your techno that goes UNN TSS UNN TSS UNN TSS Then you've got your trance that goes MMM TSS MMM TSS MMM TSS Then you've got your house that goes BOOM-TSS-CLK-TSS-VWMM-BOOM-TSS-CLK-TSS Then your breaks that go like BOOM CHK UNN BOOM BOOM CHK ... and so on in that fashion

ahahaha...my new dj name is "Von Untss"

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Originally posted by Project-K For the record I still like electronic music, it's specifically dance music I'm tired of. I'm not looking for suggestions of new music to listen to, I'm just saying it sucks that I spent so much time and money on this hobby while at the time I thought I'd be into this stuff forever, and here I am already tired of it. For the last few years my favorite hobby was discovering and collecting new house records. Now I've got this huge collection and I'm not really enjoying it anymore. :/

I find it incredible that you can own so much music and manage to be bored of all of it. I wouldn't say I've got a "huge" music collection but there are records in there I haven't played for years, and there's no way I could get bored of all of it. And that's just music I already own. There's so much stuff out there that I can't comprehend you getting bored of all EDM, which comprises of thousands of records in hundreds of sub-genres over almost 30 years.

never been bored with trance and i wont till im about 50 or so lol....but i do listen to other forms of music such as hard rock, but trance is #1 for me


i love my euro/freestyle but since its a dead genre pretty much, i dont listen to it as much as i use to.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ never been bored with trance and i wont till im about 50

I could bet you a mil otherwise. Especially with all the garbage comming out now a days.

Here's an idea...

Integrate non-dance orientated electronic music into your sets if you DJ, with some more dance orientated stuff. That's what I am hopefully going to do when I get around to mixing again. Basically work on mixing electronic music, it doesn't matter if it's dance...there's other use for electronic music other than dancing. There's a whole slew of stuff in the down tempo/ambient and experimental or "IDM" genres (ironic cause most IDM is actually not that dance able) as well as world or more new age music...that's quite brilliant IMO.

The three artists I'm currently into are Amethystium, Ulrich Schnauss and Schiller. They aren't really dance music per say, but their music does have a good beat, coupled with melody. Your probably familiar with Schnauss and Schiller already. Schiller used to do trance music but has since gone more pop, but still retains a trance-like, ethereal or otherworldly vibe.

i was in a similar situation. i was getting tired of a lot of dance music outside of the club...so i delved into ambient and experimental stuff...and dug back into the history of EDM for a good 6 months. to me it's important to be an all round listener of electronic genres. i want to know what inspired the people that inspire me and understand what the culture is about because i think that gets lost all too often.

of course the last couple of weeks i've been getting back into the dance clubby stuff hardcore...and you feel so behind.

i really think everyone cycles at some point or another.

There's always going to be something you've not heard in EDM. Whether because it's just old (New Beat, 90-93 hardcore/breakbeat, 80s Chicago house) or just because you haven't tried it (91-96 jungle, IDM, etc.)

Whenever I get bored with what I'm listening to, I just search for another genre to listen to and search out all the classics and goodies. There's always going to be the well-known classics, and that classics that only those who went to parties will know. When you get bored with that, just switch.

Then there's livesets...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I find it incredible that you can own so much music and manage to be bored of all of it. I wouldn't say I've got a "huge" music collection but there are records in there I haven't played for years, and there's no way I could get bored of all of it. And that's just music I already own. There's so much stuff out there that I can't comprehend you getting bored of all EDM, which comprises of thousands of records in hundreds of sub-genres over almost 30 years.

There might be millions of different tracks but it's not like they each encorporate something unique and original. Save for a few rare exceptions everything is more or less based on the same musical frame.

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