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Originally posted by Omega_M speed is methamphetamine ?

speed, meth, tweek, glass, shards, crank

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Originally posted by Rinster

LMFAO. So, you pretty much walked into a pharmacy saying "Hi, my friend and I are pretty tweaked out, and can't sleep. Could you please sell us some downers?



Jesus man

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Originally posted by Sushipunk LMFAO. So, you pretty much walked into a pharmacy saying "Hi, my friend and I are pretty tweaked out, and can't sleep. Could you please sell us some downers? Jesus man

+100

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Originally posted by Sushipunk LMFAO. So, you pretty much walked into a pharmacy saying "Hi, my friend and I are pretty tweaked out, and can't sleep. Could you please sell us some downers? Jesus man

LOL!

That's exactly what I was thinking. No wonder the woman flat out said no.

My knowledge on drug use isn't that great, so correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought that if you were on something like speed, and then took a downer, you could give yourself a heart attack.

I would just lay down until I passed out.

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Originally posted by Omega_M Is Speed another name for methamphetamine ?

No, speed is amphetamine.

For whatever reason, the methyl ring seems to potentiate the effects... so 10 mg of methamphetamine might provide similar effects to 25 mg of amphetamine, though honestly we don't really know how or why these things work the way they do (and that's not even getting into the fact that there are different effects derived from the same compounds based on their different stereochemistries and mixtures thereof).

It's like the difference between vicodin and morphine... same drug, different intensity. All stimulants are similar, with certain differences... there's a reason caffeine is the number one most used (abused?) drug in America: it vibes with American work ethic.

So basically, if you've done speed, you have an idea of what crystal is like, the same way if you've had caffeine you understand a little bit of what amphetamines will possibly entail... I would personally consider amphetamine to be superior to caffeine in essentially every way, for both recreational and non-recreational use. Having fun is okay, but knowing your proper dosages that work for you (not too little, not too insanely much) is vital else you'll just blow your tolerance through the roof and ruin your life, the same as an alcoholic.

Technically, methamphetamine is less "toxic" than amphetamine and methylphenidate (ritalin), and though all three are prescribed by doctors for certain reasons, methamphetamine (though safest in prescribed dosages, believe it or not) is the least commonly prescribed due to the stigma.

Though in the second quarter of the 20th century the opposite was true: methamphetamine was prescribed for everything from depression to the common cold.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, but information and education is key to staying safe and living a healthy and fun life.

peace

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Originally posted by Theresa LOL! That's exactly what I was thinking. No wonder the woman flat out said no. My knowledge on drug use isn't that great, so correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought that if you were on something like speed, and then took a downer, you could give yourself a heart attack. I would just lay down until I passed out.

that's the best thing to do.
you don't really "sleep", just meditate and rest.
a powerbar is good, as is some water.

i remember staying up a couple of days,
getting to the point where we "thought" we weren't too high to go out in public..........

man i'm glad those days are long over with.

never got caught up in it too much,
but have seen a few friends that did- not pretty, in the least.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby

That was a nice informative post, but in case you didn't notice, this thread is now about giving shit to Bidor/Rinster

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Originally posted by Sushipunk That was a nice informative post, but in case you didn't notice, this thread is now about giving shit to Bidor/Rinster

haha, oops, sorry.

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Originally posted by nchs09 let it wear off and then crash. patience goes hand in hand with drug useg.

well said... don't forget self-control and respect for the substance.

Tylenol PM

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby No, speed is amphetamine. For whatever reason, the methyl ring seems to potentiate the effects... so 10 mg of methamphetamine might provide similar effects to 25 mg of amphetamine, though honestly we don't really know how or why these things work the way they do (and that's not even getting into the fact that there are different effects derived from the same compounds based on their different stereochemistries and mixtures thereof). It's like the difference between vicodin and morphine... same drug, different intensity. All stimulants are similar, with certain differences... there's a reason caffeine is the number one most used (abused?) drug in America: it vibes with American work ethic. So basically, if you've done speed, you have an idea of what crystal is like, the same way if you've had caffeine you understand a little bit of what amphetamines will possibly entail... I would personally consider amphetamine to be superior to caffeine in essentially every way, for both recreational and non-recreational use. Having fun is okay, but knowing your proper dosages that work for you (not too little, not too insanely much) is vital else you'll just blow your tolerance through the roof and ruin your life, the same as an alcoholic. Technically, methamphetamine is less "toxic" than amphetamine and methylphenidate (ritalin), and though all three are prescribed by doctors for certain reasons, methamphetamine (though safest in prescribed dosages, believe it or not) is the least commonly prescribed due to the stigma. Though in the second quarter of the 20th century the opposite was true: methamphetamine was prescribed for everything from depression to the common cold. Anyway, sorry for the long post, but information and education is key to staying safe and living a healthy and fun life. peace

nice post boss. never knew they were kind of the same..

i always thought meth came in crystals and have to be smoked..

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Originally posted by Rinster nice post boss. never knew they were kind of the same.. i always thought meth came in crystals and have to be smoked..

it really depends how and where it was made;

in a clean lab (pharmacy quality),
or in a bath tub/sink,
or in a cattle water trough in mexico.

and what was it cut with?
if it's not clear,
it was cut with something- God knows what, usually B-12, or baby laxitive (always what you want ) or some kind of starch, at least you hope...

was it a hot-cook method (explosive), and made with things that you do NOT want their residue,
or was it the old nazi cold-cook method (probally not).


the thing that makes drugs way-worse is that usually they are illegal, and sold by people that have no morals.
for example- the people that mix meth and heroin, press it into a pill, and call it a roll...

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Originally posted by VAR for example- the people that mix meth and heroin, press it into a pill, and call it a roll...

Thats terrible..

taking drugs is pretty silly...however, try this:

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Originally posted by Sushipunk That was a nice informative post, but in case you didn't notice, this thread is now about giving shit to Bidor/Rinster

Rinster = Bidor?

Ohh...

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Originally posted by Gauss Rinster = Bidor? Ohh...

His producing alias. So I guess you missed his tracks in the amateur producer's section

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Originally posted by Gauss Rinster = Bidor? Ohh...

yup. i asked Swamper to change my name.

like Salegon said, its my producing alias.










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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Though in the second quarter of the 20th century the opposite was true: methamphetamine was prescribed for everything from depression to the common cold.

This resulted in a significant percentage of Americans becoming addicted to the drug. Makes you think about the competency of drug companies in general thinking drugs like methamphetamine were so beneficial for all types of ailments and the results it actually produced. They've certainly made mistakes in the past with these drugs and will continue to do so in the future.

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Originally posted by tranceDJ This resulted in a significant percentage of Americans becoming addicted to the drug. Makes you think about the competency of drug companies in general thinking drugs like methamphetamine were so beneficial for all types of ailments and the results it actually produced. They've certainly made mistakes in the past with these drugs and will continue to do so in the future.

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Talk Show Host: Is it true your son Michael turned you on to the pill ecstacy? Elke: He told me it was a headache pill. Talk Show Host: And what happened when you took it? Elke: Well, my headache went away.

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Originally posted by tubularbills capital N, small y, BIG FUCKING Q. I LOVE THE Q DON'T YOU1?!

I used to take that shit when coming off speedy rolls. Worked like a charm.

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Talk Show Host: Is it true your son Michael turned you on to the pill ecstacy? Elke: He told me it was a headache pill. Talk Show Host: And what happened when you took it? Elke: Well, my headache went away.

LOL...actually ecstasy was originally developed in the early 20th century as a weight loss drug. It's very amusing to think how many prescription drugs have become recreational in one way or another. How are we supposed to fight "The War On Drugs" when doctors are prescribing them? Ah...the hypocrisy

Medicine? What other people have suggested would work.


I use more of a "vitamin" when i can't sleep.

Melatonin

Taking speed without downers is like jumping out of an airplane without a parachute, plan ahead next time.

Trying to crash offa speed is not the same as having a little trouble sleeping at night. For that maybe nyquil or Tylenol PM/benadryl might help but if you are amped they will be worthless. Honestly, ambien even sucks for a speed crash. To have a pleasant crash and get some sleep you need benzos. Xanax, valium, klonopin, ativan, halcion, whatever you can get it doesn't matter, just eat some and lay down.

If you have no benzos you could try some weak opiates like vicodin or percs with a little bit of alcohol.

And if you have no drugs at all really the only other option is to drink enough alcohol to make yourself drowsy, but this method sucks compared to taking some benzos.

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