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Originally posted by progressiveMOJO I'm not saying that education is everything, but there is NO rational way to criticize getting a Bachelor's degree.

you're leaving Harvard to found Microsoft.

Aside from that...

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Originally posted by progressiveMOJO I'm not saying that education is everything, but there is NO rational way to criticize getting a Bachelor's degree.

saying that me, an enrolled full time international student (who pays double for any American education) is criticizing the pursuit of a B.A is utter crap and misunderstanding. What I'm trying to tell Carlos is to think about what he really wants, if he's planning on moving to California he has to consider many things.

On the other hand, all of you have pointed out valid responses and I couldn't agree more with you. However, my point is to approach education in a more gratifying way and explore different areas you might have been of interest in the past and perphaps you haven't had time to deal with, because the career you've chosen is limited, in some aspects of course.

Believe me, where i come from there is a very poor educational system and If I were president (god forbid) I'd def. invest in education, as a primary concern.

Now just answer one small simple question, if education is so important in america, why are there so many dumb people roaming around the strees?

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Originally posted by inconspicuous you're leaving Harvard to found Microsoft. Aside from that...

What did Steve Jobs do during his first years of College? He got into Spiritual and Theology studies, I believe he was a liberal arts major.
Anyways, being the hippie that he was, he decides to drop out of Reed.

To pursuit the hardware business, he didn't find fulfillment in College but he was a creative genius. I know what you're thinking, there is only one Steve Jobs, but trust me there are other people who you'll probably see drop out of college and when you least expect them they'll be on top of a money train.

Education will help as long as you use it to your advantage, it'll help you and lead you to the right way. But, it will only take you so far, from thereon it's really what you're mad of that counts.

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Originally posted by diggerz Now just answer one small simple question, if education is so important in america, why are there so many dumb people roaming around the strees?

you're taking it as a given that

A: they're dumb
B: they're no better than the average people in other countries


aside from that, most of the people you know are probably of above-average intelligence. 'Average' is a relative term, and it probably doesn't apply to many people who you spend time with.

Also, common sense & knowledge are the two main factors on which people generally make assumptions regarding intelligence, when neither is necessarily representative, especially from an individual perspective. It's easy for me to shake my head in disbelief when someone can't answer a question about something I'm familiar with ("omg, how can you not know that?!?!"), but no one is well-versed in everything, and there are questions to which the ignorance of my responses would elicit the same reaction from someone else.

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Originally posted by diggerz What did Steve Jobs do during his first years of College? He got into Spiritual and Theology studies, I believe he was a liberal arts major. Anyways, being the hippie that he was, he decides to drop out of Reed. To pursuit the hardware business, he didn't find fulfillment in College but he was a creative genius. I know what you're thinking, there is only one Steve Jobs, but trust me there are other people who you'll probably see drop out of college and when you least expect them they'll be on top of a money train. Education will help as long as you use it to your advantage, it'll help you and lead you to the right way. But, it will only take you so far, from thereon it's really what you're mad of that counts.

yes, there are always exceptions, and no, you can't just swipe your degree @ the grocery store to pay for food, but all else being equal, the vast majority of people benefit immensely from having a college degree.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous you're taking it as a given that A: they're dumb B: they're no better than the average people in other countries aside from that, most of the people you know are probably of above-average intelligence. 'Average' is a relative term, and it probably doesn't apply to many people who you spend time with. Also, common sense & knowledge are the two main factors on which people generally make assumptions regarding intelligence, when neither is necessarily representative, especially from an individual perspective. It's easy for me to shake my head in disbelief when someone can't answer a question about something I'm familiar with ("omg, how can you not know that?!?!"), but no one is well-versed in everything, and there are questions to which the ignorance of my responses would elicit the same reaction from someone else.

Yeah, concerning maps and the U.S

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Originally posted by diggerz Yeah, maps and the U.S

In her defense, the question was absurd, the 'poll' was total BS, and there's a ton of pressure associated with standing on a stage, trying to make everyone happy with a 30-second answer to any question that requires an opinionated answer.

That said, I can still laugh at how miserably she failed.

Put Britney Spears in Harvard and I would pay to see her results compared to mine, but guess what, she's on the Television and on newspapers, earning tons of money for cheap thrills and BJs.

'There is nothing more predictable than Hollywood is there?'

she and the competition are both fucking retarded. Well, especially the competition. She's just not very sharp... but what so you expect. Why don't they put talent shows on the radio instead. Either that, or admit that by 'talent', they're talking about the same thing I am when I walk into a bar and say "there's a lot of talent in here"

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ she and the competition are both fucking retarded

I wonder if all the money invested in beauty pageantry and the care of beautiful women could be put to better use. Like, financing education in the Third World or ... Curing Global Warming.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ admit that by 'talent', they're talking about the same thing I am when I walk into a bar and say "there's a lot of talent in here"

SPOT ON AGAIN SIR, you are on a Roll.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous you're leaving Harvard to found Microsoft. Aside from that...

we already put entrepeneurship in a different category, since it's almost as much akin to gambling as to business. both Jobs and Gates fall in that category. their stories aren't unique, but they're not so commonplace the way successful careers after college/professional school are.

guess I just misinterpreted what you were saying about education, since I know that you value it plenty. personally if I were still in college I'd base my choices 100% around school and being able to study where/what I want above career choices. I'd encourage other people to do the same if they asked for my advice, but you're right that each person has to ask themself what they truly want.

At least if she was a porn star she'd be down to earth, and wouldn't be corrupting young girls' minds

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Originally posted by diggerz 'There is nothing more predictable than Hollywood is there?'

definitely not.

who knows, though? Assume for a moment (absurd as it may be) that britney spears, in her hypothetical stay at harvard, put just as much effort, time, & dedication into her studies as you have in the same time. There's no way to tell how she'd fare in your face-off. Sure, you'd probably come out ahead, imo, but there's no way to tell how intelligent someone like that is, because they've never spent a minute of time pursuing anything relating to academics. That just makes her ignorant--not dumb. Of course, if you just change the phrasing in your prior post, I'd have a much harder time debating it.

/semantics nitpicking

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ she and the competition are both fucking retarded. Well, especially the competition. She's just not very sharp... but what so you expect. Why don't they put talent shows on the radio instead. Either that, or admit that by 'talent', they're talking about the same thing I am when I walk into a bar and say "there's a lot of talent in here"

it's a beauty pageant with a few pop quizzes thrown in as safeguards to weed out the complete imbeciles before they put their stamp of approval on somebody's year-long PR tour.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous it's a beauty pageant with a few pop quizzes thrown in as safeguards to weed out the complete imbeciles before they put their stamp of approval on somebody's year-long PR tour.

just like the presidential campaign!!

I think that's enough ranting for one day.

nah, just needs some redirection. That route is no fun.

No golf in this weather, so I've got some time to kill.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous nah, just needs some redirection. That route is no fun.

better than online politics.

well the hijack was successful

Wow. This went a little farther than I thought, but I appreciate your comments and suggestions. I am most likely leaving Cali for a different year. I've been doing some online inquiries and talking to some of my family in Cali and it seems that $500 is nothing compared to what I will actually be spending per month. It's highly expensive and I dont think I'm there yet.

I'll leave SoCal for Spring Break, though.

in SD i should be cheaper i could get a room in santa clarita for 500$ a month and SCV is fucken expensive ask me i lived there for 6 years.

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Originally posted by djdimensions in SD i should be cheaper i could get a room in santa clarita for 500$ a month and SCV is fucken expensive ask me i lived there for 6 years.

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