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Thanks for your help but beleive I'm not a new dj,I'm mixing in one of the most famous club in belgium but a old school mixing and I just want to try another way to mix... yes I know the digital mixing is new for me and I try everytime i have to do it but ableton is not so easy but it is the most professional software I see till now!

Thanks a lot and sorry to spend so much of your time... thanks thanks

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Originally posted by fzank The bpm are perfect but there is a delay between the 2 bass!!! I put a track delay -80ms on the first and now is ok. But I would like to do not that in live. I want that I drag my MP3 on the channel I want and I can start it directely...

Ok, well im going to go ahead and presume by 'bass' you mean 'bassdrum' which is pretty much the exact same thing as a kickdrum. But since your a pro DJ and everything you should know that by now.. right?

Therefore the 2 tracks you tried to warp ARE out of sync like i already said 2? times now. Which means only one thing - Because ableton beatmatches automatically its not that. There out of sync because you didn't warp them properly.. If at all.

You're absolutely right - Ableton is the top professional DJ program on the market today. And yes.. It is complex.. So why are you still posting when we've all already told you to read the manual, google around, and even gone ahead and given you some tutorials on a silver platter.

1)Set a master tempo of something like 125 (Depending on what style your mixing) - Do this in the top left hand side where it says 120 by default.

Alaylse the audio file (Find a song and drag it into the main box, Click it to see the songs waveform)

press the 'WARP' button (It should already be on)

Move the yellow marker (warp marker) to the first beat/kickdrum/bass drum (Make sure to zoom in and get it spot on)

Go to the end of the track, And mark up the last beat

Press the 'Meteronome' (sp?) button, The one in the top left of this picture with the two circle things and one is black the other is clear



Press play.. Listen.. Warp if it sounds off-beat

But most importantly.. Be prepared for it to not work and for you to have to.. *GASP* practice!!!

I cannot believe i am still replying to this thread

You are too nice...I don't ask you to reply to my last post and I understand that you are upset... fortunately you are pretty nice... thanks for all i will try your last method directely....

P.S - Your project will not look like the one in the photo.. Ignore that.. I was only using the screenshot to show you where meteronome button is. The screenshot is for music producing not DJing.

Yes yes I understand.... i just make one like you told me and it is really better.... just the time to localise the good downbeat... the djing is moving so quikly now... again thanks

Here is the process I use that works every time for me.

1. Select and analyze the track.
2. Hit the warp button.
3. Zoom in and line up the yellow/green warp marker with 1st beat.
4. Zoom in at the end of the track and make sure those markers are lined up, but don't make anymore yellow warp markers.

Then you're done. Takes about as long as your computer does to analyze the file.

Oh and make sure you set the global quantize to at least 1/4 bar. That way the songs will automatically be lined up on quarter notes.

Shhh.. Let him learn what he has already

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Originally posted by Zild Here is the process I use that works every time for me. 1. Select and analyze the track. 2. Hit the warp button. 3. Zoom in and line up the yellow/green warp marker with 1st beat. 4. Zoom in at the end of the track and make sure those markers are lined up, but don't make anymore yellow warp markers. Then you're done. Takes about as long as your computer does to analyze the file. Oh and make sure you set the global quantize to at least 1/4 bar. That way the songs will automatically be lined up on quarter notes.

I always do the first, then another one fairly early on, just to make sure that it's actually the right number of bars. it's usually easy to tell where the first is, but unless you know the bpm already, you can't tell which # the last one should actually be. for example, you might put the last one on 245, when it should be on 244. You now have a completely fucked-up clip. Just do one somewhat early on, so it's at least in the general vicinity. It's fair to assume that most stuff is at least close to if not right on a whole number for the bpm (unless you're using vinyl rips or other shit you didn't pay for), so if you start with, say, the 33rd bar, & aren't sure where the first actually is, due to a lack of distinct indicators in the mapping, you can usually drag it back & forth (zoomed way in) until you get it right on the number, from the later marker.

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Originally posted by DJChrisB You know, i hate to be mean to the noobs, but asinine questions like this really get to me some times. Try doing a f*ing google search or check out the official ableton forum before posting this crap.

SETTLE DOWN

I don't see the problem with posting questions on here prior to searching google. Some people are willing to help and might be able to offer better information than what you might find on google. If you have a problem with the question than simply don't answer it and don't waste time by being a dick

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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU SETTLE DOWN I don't see the problem with posting questions on here prior to searching google. Some people are willing to help and might be able to offer better information than what you might find on google. If you have a problem with the question than simply don't answer it and don't waste time by being a dick

I disagree sorry, If i have to hand feed someone advice on warping a track again anytime soon.. Someone will die. I don't honestly think its fair that while all the tools are there: Google, youtube, Search button etc

It's still somehow fine for users to make new threads, Wasting forum bandwidth, Completely ignoring those tools (And you cannot possibly tell me this guy even made an effort to look first..He didn't.. And if he did he didn't do it hard enough). This isin't what the forum is about.. You want support with Ableton live.. heres a tip.. Go to the Ableton live website where it says in capital letters "SUPPORT".

What is the point of being hand-fed on how to do things? The rewarding feeling of occasionally figuring things out for yourself is well worth it in the long run.

Fair enough if i had a big problem like i couldn't figure out howto set the routing settings so i can hear the cue'd track in headphones and live via speakings whilst connecting up an FX unit etc..

Stuff that is probably still explained in the manual but isin't so easy to understand. Theres no harm in occasionally needing help..

But when you go out and buy a program then come home and get straight on a forum so you can ask for someone to step you through it when LOADS of people have made videos demonstrating it already.. It's plain fucking stupid.

It's plain fucking stupid that i even replied to help this guy.. When he should have read the first few reponses to go on google, youtube, use the search function and right there.. TA-DA! would be everything he needed.

Well I'm kinda of afraid to post this now after harshing on the original poster, but, now that I've also learned to warp songs (thanks to whoever), my silly noob question is: When I start the master loop the songs start at the same time and so are beatmatched. But of course you don't want two songs to start at the same time when djing... so when I try to start the next song the beats are generally off time. Should ableton be syncing the beats as well when I start the second track? Or do I just hafta be listening to the current track and press play on the second track at the correct moment?

did you read the manul?

Manual

.. Ableton should be syncing the songs automatically. If the beats don't match after warping.. You didn't warp it properly. Use the metronome to check both tracks are on beat.

No matter when you press play on the 2nd song, It should always sync.. And if it cant - Ableton will wait for the next beat before it will allow the 'CUED' track to play.

Check your warping.. And dont forget to hit 'SAVE'

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Originally posted by Fl@k Monkey No matter when you press play on the 2nd song, It should always sync..

Not unless the quantization is set to 'None'

thanks dude, I've got things mostly figured out now.

I just read this thread and cannot believe it. I thought I used to be a complete Ableton idiot. I can't believe your patience in dealing with at.

Dancetrack digital has warped songs he can practice on.

There are tons of tutorials, even entire websites dedicated to this.

I went from not even knowing what a mix or kick was was to being able to use ableton without major problems

That guy has to be faking this, no way can a profesional dj be that stupid

haha I'm not sure i believe the whole 'I'm a pro dj at a well known club in Toronto' stuff but yeah.. Be a computer technician for a few months and you learn to be very patient with people. Without it you would be ripping off a lot of peoples heads.. daily..

I'm no pro DJ, I don't play at clubs.. But i also don't say i do. The stuff i just said about Ableton is stuff i only learned myself (through google). I want to learn about FX etc next

i learned pretty much everything i know from www.abletonlivedj.com , great site just to read past threads

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