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Posted by Abercrombie on Sep-05-2007 21:14:
Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-05-2007 21:16:
I never really noticed before how much the great lakes look like a cock and balls.
Posted by Dr. DAS on Sep-05-2007 21:18:
About half-scale...
Posted by Yohan on Sep-05-2007 21:20:
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What about Alaska...? 
Posted by rabbitjoker on Sep-05-2007 21:33:
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Originally posted by Dr. DAS
That seems like a thinly veiled jab at me...meh. |
Not just you, don't worry...
Posted by Endlesswave on Sep-05-2007 21:42:
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Originally posted by EvilTree
US already pwns pretty much all of Canadian economy. (Something like 80% of Canadian trade is with US)
Whether you like it or not, your purse is already controlled by US.
Doesn't mean I like it, but as the 'little brother' in North America, Canada will always be dominated by US politically, militarily, economically, even socially.
Kinda surprised that none of mainstream media is not in uproar about this. |
True enough but we still have some say in what's going on no? If this "union" comes to power wtf is going to happen to our way of life up here? I do NOT want things like healthcare to become privatized, I like it the way it is thank you. If things decline, fuck it I'm moving to Europe. (Hell I'm already thinking of doing that.)
Posted by Zentac_75 on Sep-05-2007 21:46:
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Originally posted by jennypie
I never really noticed before how much the great lakes look like a cock and balls. |
OMG your right!!! HAHAHAHA lake michigan is a penis lol
Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-05-2007 21:46:
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Originally posted by Endlesswave
True enough but we still have some say in what's going on no? If this "union" comes to power wtf is going to happen to our way of life up here? I do NOT want things like healthcare to become privatized, I like it the way it is thank you. If things decline, fuck it I'm moving to Europe. (Hell I'm already thinking of doing that.) |
quiet you Communist
Posted by Endlesswave on Sep-05-2007 21:49:
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Originally posted by dEsidEL
quiet you Communist
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LOL
Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't there be some combination of the best parts of capitalism with the best parts of a communist society? That's why we're fucked up as a race...only know extremes...
Look at that guy "A Beautiful Mind" is based on, we need more work like that.
Posted by beefy k on Sep-05-2007 22:03:
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Originally posted by Endlesswave
LOL
Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't there be some combination of the best parts of capitalism with the best parts of a communist society? That's why we're fucked up as a race...only know extremes...
Look at that guy "A Beautiful Mind" is based on, we need more work like that. |
Absolutely. It starts with education though. Most people you talk to has no idea what you mean when you mention that.
We are in deep shit.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-05-2007 22:04:
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Originally posted by Endlesswave
LOL
Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't there be some combination of the best parts of capitalism with the best parts of a communist society? That's why we're fucked up as a race...only know extremes...
Look at that guy "A Beautiful Mind" is based on, we need more work like that. |
Shut up you fuckin' commie!
Posted by infinity HiGH on Sep-05-2007 22:06:
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Originally posted by Abercrombie
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Unfortunately this isn't prison and we're the ones that are gonna get raped up the ass thanks to this.
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Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Because it means (long-term) greater prosperity for Canadians. |
OMFG...can you please elaborate how this benefits Canadians in the long-term? This is to primarily benefit the US corporate/capitalist machine. They could care less about our benefits.
Posted by beefy k on Sep-05-2007 22:12:
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
OMFG...can you please elaborate how this benefits Canadians in the long-term? This is to primarily benefit the US corporate/capitalist machine. They could care less about our benefits. |
+1
Posted by Endlesswave on Sep-05-2007 22:24:
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Originally posted by jennypie
Shut up you fuckin' commie! |
I like certain capitalist ideals, hell my background pretty much invented the modern form of democracy but it's not perfect by any stretch. Why not improve it by looking at its shortcomings? (by taking from other political models?)
Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-05-2007 22:25:
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Originally posted by Endlesswave
Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't there be some combination of the best parts of capitalism with the best parts of a communist society? |
quiet u Idealist
Posted by slingshot on Sep-05-2007 22:26:
You all should read this first before making opinions and comments on it.
http://www.ceocouncil.ca/publicatio...ary_23_2007.pdf
Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-05-2007 22:31:
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Originally posted by Endlesswave
I like certain capitalist ideals, hell my background pretty much invented the modern form of democracy but it's not perfect by any stretch. Why not improve it by looking at its shortcomings? (by taking from other political models?) |
LOL, I was just kidding. 
Posted by Endlesswave on Sep-05-2007 22:32:
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Originally posted by dEsidEL
quiet u Idealist
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Lol.
J lo, I know.
Posted by Yohan on Sep-05-2007 22:46:
Thanks for this, Mr Slings.
So far, nothing I've read seems threatening. Seems all this report suggests is make NAFTA more efficient...
Posted by infinity HiGH on Sep-05-2007 22:50:
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Originally posted by EvilTree
Thanks for this, Mr Slings.
So far, nothing I've read seems threatening. Seems all this report suggests is make NAFTA more efficient... |
I skimmed through it. Seems like a very nice sugar-coated outline.
Posted by Adamo on Sep-05-2007 22:50:
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Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Don't leave out the ignoramus alarmists!!! |
says Mr.OMG THUNDERSTORMS ARE COMINGGGG
Posted by Yohan on Sep-05-2007 22:54:
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I skimmed through it. Seems like a very nice sugar-coated outline. |
Honestly, if people are against this NAU thing, they should also be against NAFTA.
Posted by DigiNut on Sep-05-2007 22:56:
If it happens, it will probably fuck Mexico over pretty hard, at least in the short term, but it will be almost all good for Canada.
As far as I can tell, there's no discussion of major redistribution as there is in the EU, which would also be good news for a "NAU" because that's the main thing hurting the more industrialized EU nations.
I don't see what's wrong with less volatile currency, greater mobility rights, and a louder Canadian voice in (North) American policy/politics.
Who knows, it might even override the CRTC's overbearing protectionism and get us some cheap mobile plans.
Posted by rabbitjoker on Sep-05-2007 23:05:
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
can you please elaborate how this benefits Canadians in the long-term? |
Certainly.
For those of us old enough to remember [and interested at the time] (not many on TOTA) the EXACT same things were said about NAFTA in the late 80s/early 90s (Canada would bare the brunt end of the agreement, lose sovereignty/culture, jobs would be lost, industries would die, Canada would be the lackey of the US economic machine, etc, etc, etc).
Nearly 50% of the jobs in Canada today are a direct result of NAFTA. Without NAFTA Canada would be stuck in an isolationist position - unable to compete on the global level. Every single industry in Canada has benefited GREATLY from free trade amongst the NAFTA members.
20 years ago (when the global economy was just an idea) NAFTA laid the groundwork enabling Canada to prosper.
Today - the global economy is a fact, a reality. EU is established and will only continue to increase in economic strength and power. Asian countries are forming economic partnerships to increase their competitiveness (and that all while excluding China - which frankly is it's own economic "union" in itself).
Canada and all other economically independent states [less China and perhaps India] will not be able to prosper as they have (in the last 20 years) unless they continue to evolve themselves from a policy and economic standpoint.
Specific to the NAU: Having key trading partners with different systems, standards and policies does nothing to increase prosperity nor improve economic stability amongst themselves (and thus the rest of the world).
The only way we (and I say "we" being the non-[pseudo]3rd world Western hemisphere countries) are going to be able to compete with foreign markets (read: economic unions) is if we harmonize the way we work together, remain competitive and collaborate to ensure viability from a fiscal and economic perspective.
Much like the European Union has established fiscal and economic criteria for membership and participation - North America must do the same thing (MUST!). To do so we must co-operate on many levels and ensure each other's economic viability.
Fear mongers and alarmists will forever preach about manifest destiny, globalization (one world gov'ts/banks) and other nonsense... The way the global system of doing business is evolving results in an increased need for co-operative and harmonized partners. The more they fulfill that ideal the more prosperous they all will be.
Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-05-2007 23:27:
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Originally posted by jennypie
I never really noticed before how much the great lakes look like a cock and balls. |
all I ever hear come out of your mouth is cock and balls
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