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I thought he was saying that EVERYONE is insecure, and that people who say they aren't are just "pretending" not to be.

Which is complete and total bullshit.

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Originally posted by jennypie I thought he was saying that EVERYONE is insecure, and that people who say they aren't are just "pretending" not to be. Which is complete and total bullshit.

isnt hiding our insecurities and overcoming them a good thing? i think it is necessary.

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Originally posted by nchs09 isnt hiding our insecurities and overcoming them a good thing? i think it is necessary.

You're missing my point. Lira is saying that everyone has insecurities, and I'm saying I don't believe that. Everyone has weaknesses, yes, but that doesn't make them insecure.

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Originally posted by jennypie You're missing my point. Lira is saying that everyone has insecurities, and I'm saying I don't believe that. Everyone has weaknesses, yes, but that doesn't make them insecure.

i think the terms are interchangable. say you have a weakness in doing math problems, you would feel insecure if you were handed difficult math problems.

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Originally posted by jennypie I thought he was saying that EVERYONE is insecure, and that people who say they aren't are just "pretending" not to be. Which is complete and total bullshit.

What about human existence and it's purpose? Death? There is always something in this world everyone is insecure about. People are meant to be.

Security lies in ignorance.

Stable social orders run on insecurity. If people weren't so busy apeing those "above" them, whatever would they do with themselves?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Stable social orders run on insecurity. If people weren't so busy apeing those "above" them, whatever would they do with themselves?

Very much the case in the US, to the point I've sometimes felt it was a part of the countries very social structure based on a big foundation of fear. Media, gun ownership and fear of their neighbours, government which reinforces xenophobia and social decay as being every present threats that have to be fought with a war of some sort.
War against fascism, communism, drugs and terrorism in just the last 70 years alone, that's a lot of wars!
For a country that hasn't been invaded in an awful long time, they do seem to devote an awful lot of their time fighting wars. It's good for business and someone too scared of wars is hardly likely to stick their head out to get a handle on the situation, or anything else that might cause them to question.

Fear of impersonal threats affects most countries and people to some degree, on a slightly non-violent level it takes roots in materialism like little squirrels stashing away more food than they could ever eat on the off chance that tomorrow will bring lean times.
I do it to some degree as well to ensure myself of some economic security as well as a source of income and I've found myself several times in my travels where I'd be carrying a firearm or two, owning an armoured vehicle, hiring security and so on where it was personally dangerous. Sometimes those where even justified to be used but mostly it was an exception rather than the norm.

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Originally posted by paulandrews What about human existence and it's purpose? Death? There is always something in this world everyone is insecure about. People are meant to be.

Well I'm not insecure about death. So you're wrong. And I still disagree with that.

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Originally posted by nchs09 i think the terms are interchangable. say you have a weakness in doing math problems, you would feel insecure if you were handed difficult math problems.

No, I don't think so at all.

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Originally posted by jennypie No, I don't think so at all.

well fuck you then

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Originally posted by nchs09 well fuck you then

OH YAAAA!

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Originally posted by jennypie OH YAAAA!

elaborate why you do not think so at all....

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Originally posted by nchs09 elaborate why you do not think so at all....

Because, life is a state of mind. You can choose to adopt any attitude towards anything you want at any time. I don't think the natural reaction is to feel insecure. Maybe for a lot of people, but not all.

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Originally posted by jennypie Because, life is a state of mind. You can choose to adopt any attitude towards anything you want at any time. I don't think the natural reaction is to feel insecure. Maybe for a lot of people, but not all.

so if your parents die, you can choose to get over it? maybe i am getting a bit of the point, or am i? feelings and emotionsl; you can control them but some of them come out naturally.

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Originally posted by nchs09 so if your parents die, you can choose to get over it? maybe i am getting a bit of the point, or am i? feelings and emotionsl; you can control them but some of them come out naturally.

Not the same thing at all. Ugh. It's a pretty simple thing I'm saying, I don't know what your problem is in not getting it.

what is post-modern life

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Originally posted by Sunsnail what is post-modern life

Life in the future.

oh

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Originally posted by Sunsnail what is post-modern life

A phrase that upper-middle class people use to dignify the feeling of meaninglessness and demotivation derived from having no idea what to do with their superabundance of leisure time.

oh

My answer was better.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On My answer was better.

yes, im bizzaro world.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On My answer was better.

Was not!

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