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Resist Oppressive State Power!!!!!

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet! WOMAN: Order, eh? Who does he think he is? Heh. ARTHUR: I am your king! WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you. ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings. WOMAN: Well, how did you become King, then? ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake,... [angels sing] ...her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [singing stops] That is why I am your king! DENNIS: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. ARTHUR: Be quiet! BHAHAHAHAHA!!

As funny as it is, it basically illustratates the way people on top handle things when facing these challenges. They obviously dont want to admit they're wrong, so they tell people to shut up or use other ages-old repression methods and misinformation. In this case, the King obviously didnt have any arguments against the peasant ... which is exactly the same scenario with the John Kerry event. Because John Kerry HAS ADMITTED to be a member of Skull & Bones.

Good point about Kerry Already saying he was apart of the organization.

What is really messed up is that Kerry agrees to answer the young mans questions. Then the young man gets pwned by the cops.

Umm, fellow tin foil hatters, please ask yourself what the fuck Kerry had anything to do with this conspiracy of yours? So even though Kerry did allow the "known prankster who often posts practical jokes online" to speak at first, but somehow didn't insist he continue speaking when the little shit starting pushing cops up and down the fucking aisle and causing fucking mayhem, all of the sudden his Skull and Bones brotherhood kicked in and decided, uhh, decided this little shit should be silenced so he doesn't bust Kerry on his elusive background in fucking college?

Please tell me you're not going to go that far out on a limb on this one. Please? That's just downright fucking pathetic.

The little turd broke into a private meeting, acted like the little immature shit that he is, decided to pull one of his classical pranks on a Senator, it fell to shit fast after he clearly resisted the police (which last time I recall under no circumstances do you ever resist the police even if you are wrongfully held which could easily be decided later since it was on fucking camera with a few hundred witnesses around you), and all of the sudden it's because of Kerry that this whole thing occurred because Kerry was a part of Skull and Bones just like Bush therefore Kerry = Bush = eeevil, and Kerry didn't speak up loud enough and incessantly enough for this little shit after he was clearly resisting the cops and making a complete jackass of his usual prankster self?!!?!?!

Fuck, please kindly go back to the 9/11 conspiracy threads if that's the case. I got my issues on Kerry too, but you'd have to stretch my concerns out on a hallucinogenic acid overdose with a bottle of Jack to get me agreeing to that line of bullshit. Enough already.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Fuck, please kindly go back to the 9/11 conspiracy threads if that's the case. I got my issues on Kerry too, but you'd have to stretch my concerns out on a hallucinogenic acid overdose with a bottle of Jack to get me agreeing to that line of bullshit. Enough already.

OMG!!! I about fell our my Chair!! dooooood!!!!! that was golden!! ha ha ha




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that little punk had it coming.....he is such an attention whore, that lil bitch tried to ruin Harry Potter!!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN gee, someone's taken their angry pills. wtf mate? renegade is one of the brightest and best contributors in the whole PDD he doesnt deserve the treatment you might reserve for yours truly but whilst we're here... what's your point?

1. It doesn't fucking matter what his question was, he was using words not force.
   
2. Tasing is NOT a justifiable response to a question, unless you're fucking insane.
   
3. There's no justification for an arrest in the first place.
   
4. If anyone should be tased, it's the ******s approving/condoning it along with the pigs doing the tasing who ought to be fucking tased; every single one of you assholes who isn't outraged by this act of police brutality.
   
5. The former group of people mentioned are balless fucking cowards with no compasion for their fellow man whatsoever.
   

Here's an interesting little response to the incident on youtube:

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Because John Kerry HAS ADMITTED to be a member of Skull & Bones.

OOOOHHH! I was in a fraternity! We have secret handshakes and all that shit. It's lethal shit man, lethal!

Sorry, I just think too much is made of these secret society stories. He may have been a member, but he's still a raging douche.

He's a clearer view from a news clip:

Pieces of shit.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z [list=1] [*]It doesn't fucking matter what his question was, he was using words not force.

nobody said the tasering had anything to do with the nature of his question.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z [*]Tasing is NOT a justifiable response to a question, unless you're fucking insane.

the tasering wasn't in response to his question, are you joking? the guy was resisting the police officers. that's why he got tasered.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z [*]There's no justification for an arrest in the first place.

what would you do with someone that was intentionally causing mischief at your quorum then? where does it say you have the right to be a dick without consequences?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z [*]If anyone should be tased, it's the ******s approving/condoning it along with the pigs doing the tasing who ought to be fucking tased; every single one of you assholes who isn't outraged by this act of police brutality.

i know you have this massive police chip on your shoulder, and perhaps the tasering did go to far. but that doesn't change the fact the guy is a tool, was acting like a tool, is a self-confessed serial pest and this time he got his just desserts.

the guy was clearly resisting the police. what do you expect? i think the people in the audience cheering the police on says it all, dont you?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z [*]The former group of people mentioned are balless fucking cowards with no compasion for their fellow man whatsoever.

what the fuck are you on about? because we don't fall into your anti-establishment line automatically we're somehow cowards?

you know what a fucking coward is? someone that benefits from the safety that the state (either police or military) provides for them and does nothing but spit on the people that make all the sacrifices so that you are free to spit on them in the first place

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Originally posted by Q5echo HELP I"M BEING REPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!

wat is with you sick twisted individuals!? you guys sound like fuckin racist fascists! if you truly want to live in society where you can't ask questions anymore then move to russia or something! im sure if it happened to you, and you told them you wern't resisting you'd be up in arms and looking for justice just as much as they were, fuck heads!

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 wat is with you sick twisted individuals!? you guys sound like fuckin racist fascists! if you truly want to live in society where you can't ask questions anymore then move to russia or something! im sure if it happened to you, and you told them you wern't resisting you'd be up in arms and looking for justice just as much as they were, fuck heads!

like we need a lecture about resisting from a surrender monkey.

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Originally posted by EvilTree Generally lipping off to cops and acting like a jerk is going to get you hurt. It's not his house. He was asked to leave. He didn't cooperate. Security came and he still keep up his yap and not cooperating. Yep. Taser time

amnesty international has claimed no cops should have the rights to taze anyone unless they truly have to... mouthing off a cop doesn't give them the right to taze you, so r u telling me that if you mouthed off to a cop, you'd expect to get tazed!?? lol cmon man gimme a fuckin break, where are your civil liberties!???

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Originally posted by EvilTree I suppose bouncing this kid's head off the concrete might be more fun for the cops. Or a baton up the ass. End result is that this kid now knows that when a cop tells you to leave, it's probably good for his health to leave and sort out any police abuse of power and whatnot later with a lawyer. Heck, try to sue the police for all he can. At least he saves himself some bodily harm.

so you rather be oppressed and go with the rest of the sheeps then letting your mind be heard?? you people really do live in an oppressed society in which you can't voice your opinions "apparently" quite sad....

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Originally posted by LazFX OMG!!! I about fell our my Chair!! dooooood!!!!! that was golden!! ha ha ha ---- that little punk had it coming.....he is such an attention whore, that lil bitch tried to ruin Harry Potter!!

no offense to you but in a civilized society these events wouldnt even need to be a discussion, i could see this happening in 3rd world countries or in countries where there are still dictators , but the US !?? where's YOUR freedom of speech!?? thats the disgusting part of it all.....

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN nobody said the tasering had anything to do with the nature of his question. the tasering wasn't in response to his question, are you joking? the guy was resisting the police officers. that's why he got tasered. what would you do with someone that was intentionally causing mischief at your quorum then? where does it say you have the right to be a dick without consequences? i know you have this massive police chip on your shoulder, and perhaps the tasering did go to far. but that doesn't change the fact the guy is a tool, was acting like a tool, is a self-confessed serial pest and this time he got his just desserts. the guy was clearly resisting the police. what do you expect? i think the people in the audience cheering the police on says it all, dont you? what the fuck are you on about? because we don't fall into your anti-establishment line automatically we're somehow cowards? you know what a fucking coward is? someone that benefits from the safety that the state (either police or military) provides for them and does nothing but spit on the people that make all the sacrifices so that you are free to spit on them in the first place

dude listen to yourself..... does that give any human being the right to taze another human for not complying with the laws?? coming from australia though your responses really don't surprise me thats where all the prisoners and skin heads were dumped... you racist pig!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN nobody said the tasering had anything to do with the nature of his question. the tasering wasn't in response to his question, are you joking? the guy was resisting the police officers. that's why he got tasered. what would you do with someone that was intentionally causing mischief at your quorum then? where does it say you have the right to be a dick without consequences? i know you have this massive police chip on your shoulder, and perhaps the tasering did go to far. but that doesn't change the fact the guy is a tool, was acting like a tool, is a self-confessed serial pest and this time he got his just desserts. the guy was clearly resisting the police. what do you expect? i think the people in the audience cheering the police on says it all, dont you? what the fuck are you on about? because we don't fall into your anti-establishment line automatically we're somehow cowards?

How does raising questions, regardless of the question, warrant an arrest? Since when the fuck was free speech illegal? And since when the fuck did that warrant being tased?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you know what a fucking coward is? someone that benefits from the safety that the state (either police or military) provides for them and does nothing but spit on the people that make all the sacrifices so that you are free to spit on them in the first place

LOL, I think you'd be a prime candidate. Since when was "appreciating" the "state (police or military)" a feat of courage? What in the world does that have to do with courage? Please look up the word in a dictionary, pehaps then you wouldn't be making absolutely nonsensial statemnts like that. I don't believe I've ever heard such a load of crap before, correlating "respect" for "authority" [aka being passive and subsurviant] with courage... but I do recall the contary being a little more related lol. Are you a fucking retard? And exactly what fucking service or protection is eigther one providing me or anyone else for that matter (in this instance or countless others)?

And please don't bother responding if you're going to post more retarded comments reflecting scewed logic and morality. I feel like I'm talking to a complete idot and wasting my breath (which I'm doing by simply responding to your retarded post in the first place).

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 wat is with you sick twisted individuals!? you guys sound like fuckin racist fascists! if you truly want to live in society where you can't ask questions anymore then move to russia or something! im sure if it happened to you, and you told them you wern't resisting you'd be up in arms and looking for justice just as much as they were, fuck heads!

it was a quote from the movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail that i posted.

i saw some irony, f**kin sue me. get a sense of humor

i sure that kid that got tased would get a chuckle out of it.

this whole thing was a set up from the beginning.
he's an attention whore apparently.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z How does raising questions, regardless of the question, warrant an arrest? Since when the fuck was free speech illegal? And since when the fuck did that warrant being tased?

why are you putting words in my mouth yet again? is this the only way you know how to argue? i didnt say asking a question was grounds for an arrest, and i guarantee you that's not why he was arrested. this has absolutely nothing to do with his question, i think i've pointed that out enough for you to get it.

i like it how you try and frame the reference of the debate with fallacies. hint: the guy was arrested for disrupting the occasion. the law clearly gives officers the right to arrest people for such activites. dont like the law? perhaps you wouldn't mind if i came round to your house and acted like a dick then?? and again, im not defending the use of the tasers, just pointing out that the guy is a fuckwit and this time he bit off more than he could chew. that's what you get when you make a habit of being a dickhead.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z LOL, I think you'd be a prime candidate. Since when was "appreciating" the "state (police or military)" a feat of courage? What in the world does that have to do with courage? Please look up the word in a dictionary, pehaps then you wouldn't be making absolutely nonsensial statemnts like that.

where did i say that this equated with courage? the opposite of hiding behind the freedoms these institutions provide and spewing forth typically one-eyed, irrational and biased hatred isnt "appreciating" the state, it is manning up and putting your money where your mouth is and actually doing something other than typing furiously with that massive chip on your shoulder. courage is putting your life on the line so little pseudo intellectuals like yourself can live in relative safety and have the luxury of shitting all over those same people that provide it for you.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I don't believe I've ever heard such a load of crap before, correlating "respect" for "authority" [aka being passive and subsurviant] with courage... but I do recall the contary being a little more related lol. Are you a fucking retard? And exactly what fucking service or protection is eigther one providing me or anyone else for that matter (in this instance or countless others)?

fuck you. you're the one trying to correlate it (again, trying to put words into my mouth so you can more easily attack them) that's not what i said and you know it. LOL, you remind me of me when i was young and stupid. yeah shaolin, you're really anti passive and subservient! keep fighting the power with this here music website!

i didnt correlate shit, that's you and your faulty logic.

if i really need to explain to you the services or protection you are provided with then this debate is a lost cause. try not to let the blind hatred and irrational bias eat you up inside.

One thing I failed to clarify in my anti-conspiracy rant - although the guy was being a deliberate turd and being purposely disruptive and disrespectful, I'm not an advocate for tasing. Overall I think they are a bit overused for activities that could be settled with a wee bit more backbone. Merely resisting arrest to me is not necessarily grounds for tasing, but unfortunately there's a bit of a gray area on this issue that's continually being contended and questioned - likely for good reason I might add.

It's a worthy debate on that issue alone. However my issue was against anyone somehow linking this douchebag's free speech rights supposedly being taken away because he's speaking some slithering conspiratorial truth about Kerry's college background in an elusive society. That simply holds no water given the little turd's actions (i.e. "known prankster" with his own website of practical jokes).

So perhaps before this thread gets closed down by Neo or Lira, perhaps we can all settle down just a wee bit and cut down the flaming and name calling just a tad?

No matter how bad things can be politically in USA, some people create a far-reaching perception that the situation in USA is relatively good. I can almost guarantee you that even if martial law get imposed, there will be people on this forum who will make a good thing out of it ... thats just incredible. And I thought rubbish that came out behind the Iron Curtain was bad enough.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 One thing I failed to clarify in my anti-conspiracy rant - although the guy was being a deliberate turd and being purposely disruptive and disrespectful, I'm not an advocate for tasing. Overall I think they are a bit overused for activities that could be settled with a wee bit more backbone. Merely resisting arrest to me is not necessarily grounds for tasing, but unfortunately there's a bit of a gray area on this issue that's continually being contended and questioned - likely for good reason I might add. It's a worthy debate on that issue alone. However my issue was against anyone somehow linking this douchebag's free speech rights supposedly being taken away because he's speaking some slithering conspiratorial truth about Kerry's college background in an elusive society. That simply holds no water given the little turd's actions (i.e. "known prankster" with his own website of practical jokes). So perhaps before this thread gets closed down by Neo or Lira, perhaps we can all settle down just a wee bit and cut down the flaming and name calling just a tad?

i mostly agree. im just annoyed at the supposed assault on free speech when there's just as much right to engage in discourse without it being hijacked by some retard desperate for attention. i dont support tasers either, but im not going to cry about some fool getting some electricity when he was clearly in the wrong.

The "resisting" of the student is hardly relevant to the points some of us are trying to make. The student was going to get escorted out of the building either way - all for ASKING A QUESTION that police didnt like. Instead of anwering the question - and not just that - but he wasnt even allowed to finish his question - police moved in to aprehend the student, and it was more than just 1 or 2 police officers. They way the police handled this was also appalling.

Watch again how the police moved in quickly before he even started reading his paper



Obviously he was going to get escorted anyways. Kinda odd how people who ask the "wrong" questions must be escorted out of the building, democracy at its best ;-)

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Originally posted by Magnetonium The "resisting" of the student is hardly relevant to the points some of us are trying to make. The student was going to get escorted out of the building either way - all for ASKING A QUESTION that police didnt like. Instead of anwering the question - and not just that - but he wasnt even allowed to finish his question - police moved in to aprehend the student, and it was more than just 1 or 2 police officers. They way the police handled this was also appalling. Watch again how the police moved in quickly before he even started reading his paper Obviously he was going to get escorted anyways. Kinda odd how people who ask the "wrong" questions must be escorted out of the building, democracy at its best ;-)

seriously, you must be the biggest one-eyed fool on here nothing you have posted here is even remotely relevant. the police didnt escort him because they didnt like his question. honestly, what is wrong with you??

the police waited for him to finish his stupid secret society question. he wasn't being escorted because of it. he was escorted because he, unlike the rest of the people there, felt he was special and deserved special privileges the rest of the room did not (you know, such as waiting your turn or fitting in with the discussion's time frame). which is why he grabbed the microphone away from someone else who was in the middle of asking a question. where is your self-righteous anger at him for infringing on the free speech rights of that person??

i am honestly amazed you could get that ^^ analysis from the video you posted. talk about seeing what you want to see.

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