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Posted by malek on Sep-19-2007 14:37:

I agree on most of what you say, but I also feel that the best health care system is a public one (Canada's isn't perfect but still) and that education at US prices is simply a ripoff.


Posted by DiskHO on Sep-19-2007 14:40:

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that is all true malek, but at least we have a choice. you guys all talk about meds and education like it is the end all be all. if i want meds and an education i can go buy it, but i dont need to be paying for it for my whole life even at times when i have no use for it.


Posted by Tag on Sep-19-2007 14:41:

Re: usa

quote:
Originally posted by DiskHO
no matter how good the economy in canada becomes, people will always be held down by the fucking rediculous prices and taxes on EVERYTHING!!!!

gas, cell phones, food, day to day item + 15% tax. it really sux and that is why i have not moved to canada even though i love it there.



canada's economy will be hurting from the dollars been near parity.
which is why everyone here should stfu cause they CLEARLY dont understand much.


Posted by DiskHO on Sep-19-2007 14:43:

true

that is very true.


Posted by jester on Sep-19-2007 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
I agree on most of what you say, but I also feel that the best health care system is a public one (Canada's isn't perfect but still) and that education at US prices is simply a ripoff.


Oh yah the cost of going to school in the US holy jesus I a couple years back I was looking into a school in NYC for fashion design. This is when our dollar was worthless pretty much. It was about $60k CDN a year. Now with the current rate of exchange $32k CDN. I think that how much it is for US citizens. Probably is way more for International people.


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-19-2007 14:47:

US doesn't take care of low incomers.. in the end it comes back to bite everyone's ass. Their solution is to have those peeps join the arm forces. Michael Moore, ftw


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-19-2007 14:48:

Re: Re: usa

quote:
Originally posted by Tag
canada's economy will be hurting from the dollars been near parity.
which is why everyone here should stfu cause they CLEARLY dont understand much.


yes, it makes our exports undesirable no?


Posted by malek on Sep-19-2007 14:50:

Re: Re: usa

quote:
Originally posted by Tag
canada's economy will be hurting from the dollars been near parity.
which is why everyone here should stfu cause they CLEARLY dont understand much.


teach us � master pink elephant.


Posted by malek on Sep-19-2007 14:56:

Re: r

quote:
Originally posted by DiskHO
that is all true malek, but at least we have a choice. you guys all talk about meds and education like it is the end all be all. if i want meds and an education i can go buy it, but i dont need to be paying for it for my whole life even at times when i have no use for it.


you are right because your perspective is the one of a young healthy person.

Is it really unheard of people selling or remortgaging their houses (which they paid for their whole life) to pay for expensive chirurgical bills once they're no longer young and healthy?


edit: which cancels out the savings of a whole life or most probably any benefits from low taxation went on buying crap now sitting in that huge garage in that huge house.


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-19-2007 14:57:

Tag should be able to articulate this since that's his field of study.. I'll take a stab here: if our commodities aren't selling, that hurts our industries and of course the trickle down effect is layoffs and such, hurting local economies in the process.


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-19-2007 15:03:

Case in point: Americans don't want to buy our products because the exchange rate isn't favourable anymore. It now costs more to buy Canadian products than before.. so in tying this discussion into edm, we may see less American trollops at Bal en Blanc


Posted by malek on Sep-19-2007 15:06:

This is the perfect chance for local companies to go out and buy equipment/software to upgrade their facilities and enhance their productivity (to bring prices down and become more attractive).


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-19-2007 16:31:

yeah. We have a strong domestic demand for our Canadian products still, and I was reading that Canadians are still shopping here and that retailers (for example) haven't had to adjust their prices yet. So if many of us started to shopping in the US (which I plan to do for that one week, heh heh) then it's gonna hurt our economy too.

Tourism will def take a bit of a beating, as will the movie industry (it already has in Montreal, TO.. Van is subsidized by the provicial gov so no issue there - we talked about that in another thread).

The rising dollar does help our hockey franchises though


Posted by Tag on Sep-19-2007 19:33:

Spins got it, already last week one of canadas biggest timber companies took its product off the market to reprice wood, cause the US isnt buying as much. Canada's economy is based on exporting resources, high dollar is bad for us. And like Spin says it all trickles down, less sales abroad=lower profits=lower taxes taking in by the gov=less social service etc etc
Of course we benefit short term by being able to buy cheap stuff from the US, but thats pretty limited for consumers considering how gay the border is.


Posted by jester on Sep-19-2007 19:36:

The US still owes us some $5 billion USD for our lumber that they taxed us on.


Posted by Tag on Sep-19-2007 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by jesteraver
The US still owes us some $5 billion USD for our lumber that they taxed us on.


US doesnt owe anybody anything unless they decide they do


Posted by Tag on Sep-19-2007 19:38:

and jesse go ask your dad that thing now!


Posted by jester on Sep-19-2007 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Tag
and jesse go ask your dad that thing now!


his still not in the country. I was hoping he would be back by now, but seems he will be back when I get back tonight from class around 11.


Posted by Marcus007 on Sep-19-2007 19:44:

ALSO ASK UR DAD FOR THAT MONEY HE OWES ME

ALL 3382396293273273 OF IT


Posted by jester on Sep-19-2007 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
ALSO ASK UR DAD FOR THAT MONEY HE OWES ME

ALL 3382396293273273 OF IT


bahaha


Posted by malek on Sep-19-2007 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
ALSO ASK UR DAD FOR THAT MONEY HE OWES ME

ALL 3382396293273273 OF IT


that makes us two


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-20-2007 00:37:

hey Malek, do you know if these djs get paid in American dollars or Canadian (or whatever)? Because the rising dollar could affect that if, for instance, DJ X wants to be paid 20K USD .. 'cause now it wouldn't cost Canadian promoters as much to pay that out.

Just a thought..maybe Balenblanc can chime in here.


Posted by DiskHO on Sep-20-2007 00:54:

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it depends on the artist. some require to be paid in euros, others usd. NONE of them get paid in canadian dollars unless they live in canada.


Posted by RayRayy on Sep-20-2007 01:05:

A strong dollar is not always a good thing especially canadian businesses who sell most of their products outside of the country....not good for the automobile industry..u heard GM closing their night shift assembly line in Oshawa because nobody is buying cars here because of the strong dollar...peeps are actually buying their cars in the states...so its a double edge sword. US juss lowered their interest rate recently...their economy can't be that healthy.


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-20-2007 01:22:

Re: h

quote:
Originally posted by DiskHO
it depends on the artist. some require to be paid in euros, others usd. NONE of them get paid in canadian dollars unless they live in canada.


thanks. I bet these automakers wish they could outsource (or whatever it's called) in Mexico or something


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