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You guys really mix w/ gain knobs? I have found there isn't enough control.

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Originally posted by DuBam I use up's and only up's, except for the occasional "sleeve-cross-fade" Nik mentioned

That's why I only DJ in a T-shirt nowadays

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Originally posted by epdarks You guys really mix w/ gain knobs? I have found there isn't enough control.

I use the gain basically for cueing (i have monitor balance on my mixer but im still not used to it) and in case one source was lacking in volume and needs to be boosted up!

it doesnt really matter...

mixing is a personal style(or it should be!!)

however you choose to transition is up to you! upfaders seem to be the popular choice, but whatever you like is what you should do.

blacky

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Originally posted by Hasneez I use the gain basically for cueing (i have monitor balance on my mixer but im still not used to it) and in case one source was lacking in volume and needs to be boosted up!

I understand that. But does anyone use gains as a poor mans rotary?

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Originally posted by epdarks You guys really mix w/ gain knobs? I have found there isn't enough control.

There is enough control you just need to make minute movements. For me it offers more control than non rotary faders.

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Originally posted by babablacksheep it doesnt really matter... mixing is a personal style(or it should be!!) however you choose to transition is up to you! upfaders seem to be the popular choice, but whatever you like is what you should do. blacky

You don't say? I never would have known this if you hadn't pointed it out to me.

my problem with mixing with gain knobs is cueing can begin to be a bit of a bitch.

How so? I know yes it is best to have rotary faders, but if you don't you can use the gain to approximate the feel. No reason to turn the gain all the way down. Just cut it a little bit so when you throw the channel fader you don't spike the gain structure on the master channel. Then use it so smoothly bring in the next song. It is a lot easier to control turning a knob then pushing a fader

Crossfader. For all this talk of "greater control" with upfaders and gains, from what I've heard in the music promotion section, most of your physical mixes all sound alike.

Think about it for a minute. When using the crossfader you're forced to adjust the level of one channel dependent upon the other channel. Using the upfaders you have more control because you can control the levels independent of each other. And it is easier to control the turn of a knob than the push of a fader. So yea you will ALWAYS gain more control when moving from a single switch individual switches. It is fairly obvious.

I used to swear by using the xfader for many years until I was forced into using the faders when I had to use my xfader as a wet/dry for my EFX unit and I can honestly say now that faders are the way to go.

Only problem I have with faders (well, on my xone92 anyway) is that they are so loose, I find it hard to be subtle with them. I suppose this is where rotary's come in...

the last time ia mix i did was recorded... the crossfader was on or something i wasnt used to.... and after i finished mixing, the next track came in and it sounded like a trainwreck

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Originally posted by nchs09 the last time ia mix i did was recorded... the crossfader was on or something i wasnt used to.... and after i finished mixing, the next track came in and it sounded like a trainwreck

Thats why i keep my autocue on, made that mistake, not sure how that works on other players tho or in vinyl mode (CDJ 200 here).

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Originally posted by Zild How so? I know yes it is best to have rotary faders, but if you don't you can use the gain to approximate the feel. No reason to turn the gain all the way down. Just cut it a little bit so when you throw the channel fader you don't spike the gain structure on the master channel. Then use it so smoothly bring in the next song. It is a lot easier to control turning a knob then pushing a fader

When I cue I have to have the volume fader of the channel I am cueing all the way down so I can have the gain up and hear the track in my headphones. Then I'd have to push the volume fader all the way up, turn the gain all the way down, and bring in the track with the gain only. I fiddled around with it a couple of times but figured it was way too much of a hassle to be arsed with, and I really don't mind mixing with volume faders.

Ted, what you're describing is not what anyone would do unless they wanted to have a very difficult time mixing. Nor is it what I described in the post you are quoting. You don't turn the gain all the way down and the volume fader all the way up. Only an idiot would do that.

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Originally posted by Zild Ted, what you're describing is not what anyone would do unless they wanted to have a very difficult time mixing. Nor is it what I described in the post you are quoting. You don't turn the gain all the way down and the volume fader all the way up. Only an idiot would do that.

Well I pretty much am.

This is getting rather hostile.

What I do is I just unscrew the enter body of the mixer and and mix by manually adjusting voltage levels

Just crossfade with your fucking cock.

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