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Posted by Marcus007 on Oct-18-2007 16:44:

mandat in french is different than in english non-montrealer :P


Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-18-2007 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Greg you'll outgrow that urge to bitch authority (any) at some point... at the risk of staying a hippy your whole life.



exactly. authority


i dont want to deal with authority when im partying-


does this make any sense? Like it's all well and good that these guys are going to do what they want to do, thats fine I dont care, its my choice wether or not to attend ( and knowing me ill probably end up going, call it like it is now )


u wanna throw a big fuckoff rave with superstar djs? awesome! i just think its silly it got to this point, maybe silly that TA (or people like the people here) pushed them to release a statement like this and then cheer about it.


Its like

USER:
"hey beb sucks, they should be more underground"

BEB:
No, We are commercial and thats it

USER:
AWESOME! RESPECT!


Posted by Master Kush on Oct-18-2007 17:09:

While the letter may seem heartfelt at the surface, to me it sounds pretty bogus. Marketing strategy is all fine and dandy but it is not an excuse for bringing in shitty DJs. And to be honest, they can book pretty much anyone and still have a full house (no pun intended).

Another thing to note is that 'house music' is a very broad term that encompases a large amount of different styles (and is likely the most broad term in the EDM genre). So this is fine and cool. But to then pinpoint a specific subgenre as a potential theme or whatever seems a bit contradictory. Why French house? Its deader-then-dead ATM. The fact that people still can only think of a name like Daft Punk pretty much proves it.

And since you pretty much have only Trance in one room (in terms of headliners at least) and will apparently have french house in the other....How does this exactly "cater to the masses"?


Posted by Zinger on Oct-18-2007 17:44:

Why do you guys work? to make money. BEB just said the truth (between the lines), which most wouldn't do. BEB is a business and that's that. You don't like a product? don't go.

You guys think TRIBE is out there trying to "Please" the underground fans with their big party on the 28th???? No. I doubt that's their goal. Not with that huge investment in DJ fees. Everyone's out to make a profit. It might be sad for some of you, but this beloved music we all love is an industry, where many good people try to earn a living. TRIBE is a business (and the best club in MTL, hands down )

the truth is, most of the 15000 fans that will be at BEB this year have never heard Sven Vath or Booka Shade or Satoshi Tomiie


Posted by malek on Oct-18-2007 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
exactly. authority


i dont want to deal with authority when im partying-


Greg, you deal with authority when you party like it or not, example your Cherry had to show a good record to the authorities to open its doors! There's far more regulations about parties than you'll ever imagine.

Authority is everywhere, you gotta deal with it.


Posted by Neo Hacker on Oct-18-2007 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by UneeK
Why do you guys work? to make money. BEB just said the truth (between the lines), which most wouldn't do. BEB is a business and that's that. You don't like a product? don't go.

You guys think TRIBE is out there trying to "Please" the underground fans??? No. I doubt that's their goal. Not with that huge investment in DJ fees. Everyone's out to make a profit. It might be sad for some of you, but this beloved music we all love is an industry, where many good people try to earn a living. TRIBE is a business.

the truth is, most of the 15000 fans that will be at BEB this year have never heard Sven Vath or Booka Shade or Satoshi Tomiie.


very well said.

I think BEB came very clear with this topic and I respect them for that.


Posted by DiskHO on Oct-18-2007 17:50:

ere

guess what. the underground does not pay the bills. i can tell you that from first hand experience. Especially in montreal where everyone thinks they should get in for free everywhere. that is why im booking victor calderone for my next party in boston.

balenblanc used to have DAVE CLARKE and MISSTRESS BARBARA and it used to be underground, but as montreal sinks further into the musical toilet, so does the beb. RESPECT the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

toot toot!!!

p.s. who really gives a shit..........................or a fuck?



oh yeah, that reminds me of this one time..........someone smashed a 22 ounce heineken bottle over my head after beb cause they were so fucked up and thought i was in charge of a secret army who would attack the days inn we were staying at.

a paul frank wool hat and my other friend saved my life that day especially since the kid was trying to finish me off. true story, closest i ever came to being murdered


Posted by malek on Oct-18-2007 17:57:

Lets go people, lets all vent, this is the right thread to do it.


Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-18-2007 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Greg, you deal with authority when you party like it or not, example your Cherry had to show a good record to the authorities to open its doors! There's far more regulations about parties than you'll ever imagine.

Authority is everywhere, you gotta deal with it.

for sure, i just don't care really.


want to impress me? get on the forum and say it yourself, dont make a press release style mandate posted on forums under an anonymous balenblanc account.


otherwise i dont care, at this point its the same as me talking shit about mcdonalds. who gives a fuck, you dont like it dont eat there.

you like it a little bit, eat there everyonce and a while, or go and dont have the time of your life-

its just a product


Posted by malek on Oct-18-2007 18:45:

Once anything involves money, there's a product.

Cherry has a product too when it tries to create a different style of night. You guys have promotion, flyers, charge at the door, etc. etc.

You may not like Bal en Blanc's product, its your choice, they may not be after you marketing wise.


Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-18-2007 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Once anything involves money, there's a product.

Cherry has a product too when it tries to create a different style of night. You guys have promotion, flyers, charge at the door, etc. etc.

You may not like Bal en Blanc's product, its your choice, they may not be after you marketing wise.



exactly, so what does it matter what i say? they already told me it didnt matter!

This is the beauty of free speech- pointless debate


Posted by Marcus007 on Oct-18-2007 19:36:

i like the guy from boston's story

i was walking out of beb13, feeling a bit quesy and wanting to go home, when the girl in front of me runs up to a garbage can and started hurling into it

man

balenblanc is magic... once a year babyyy

hahahahahahah


Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-18-2007 19:43:

did anybody see that movie about those kids whose parents were in biker gangs/judges and they all went to balenblanc and shit? Drama between these 16 year old kids... cant remember the name, saw it at my friends house the other day on tv saw the colored windows and knew it was balenblanc, then the grandma talked about it or something


Posted by Marcus007 on Oct-18-2007 20:07:

romeo and juliet

horrible film

beb wasnt properly portrayed

i didnt take the movie seriously

but that has nothing to do with beb heheh


Posted by Playground on Oct-18-2007 20:23:

please...

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
romeo and juliet

horrible film

beb wasnt properly portrayed

i didnt take the movie seriously

but that has nothing to do with beb heheh



you're right Markus.. Bal en Blanc did not produce the movie, nor did it have any involvement in the script. The directors asked for the permission to film some scenes at the event, but the film is NOT about Bal en Blanc as you already know, it's about 2 cuties who fall in love, and who happened to meet at Bal en Blanc.

If you happen to have had the opportunity to study the scenario, either in school or as a full fledge comedian, you'll surely agree that the movie is actually a pretty good readaptation of that Shakespearian drama..

And this topic is not really about Romeo and Julliett either... so back to the upcoming 14th edition of Bal en Blanc..


Posted by Marcus007 on Oct-18-2007 20:55:

i agree the film was an ok adaptation of the original... I like how they modernized the times, but... the dialog/writing and acting was not up to par for quebecois films

look at films like crazy or invasion barbare... le rocket or ma fille, mon ange... these films showcase the talented actors quebec has

the lead actors are not strong enough to support the film... that is.... excluding pierre cuerzi...

when the writing breaks down it makes even the most plausible scene feel dull and forced

the guy sees her once at a party and starts stalking her? they literally share 3 lines of dialog up until half way through the film when they're supposed to then be in love

BUT BACK TO BEB14444444


Posted by Spin Laden on Oct-18-2007 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Lets go people, lets all vent, this is the right thread to do it.


"An Internet forum is a web application for holding discussions and posting user generated content. Internet forums are also commonly referred to as web forums, message boards, discussion boards, (electronic) discussion groups, discussion forums, bulletin boards, fora (the Latin plural) or simply forums."

It's all about the gay dollar, folks. Bal en Blanc started off as a gay oriented event, so kudos for Bal en Blanc for keeping to that. If you were to put someone who brings too many "straights" then there goes the essence of BeB. For us straight Househeads on here, at least we now know to not expect the crazy bookings you're seeing in the other room.


Posted by robbiej on Oct-18-2007 21:25:

great post

me and friends are hoping for some guetta... he gets the naked chicks out


Posted by breakawayj on Oct-18-2007 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by CITIZENMTL
Guetta


HE IS BRUTAL


Posted by Spin Laden on Oct-18-2007 22:55:

Yes, he IS brutal.

Anyways, when Bal en blanc talks about "corporate image" in that well written post, all you have to do is see who's sponsoring this event. From a business standpoint, you would want your brand to reach out to as wide a market as possible, no?

So I see that Molson Dry was one of the sponsors for Black and Blue, and Heineken and Red Bull are sponsors for BeB, to use two examples. So of course, you'd think they would also promote keeping the gay vibe alive at Bal en Blanc, so that maybe ties into the bookings, somewhat. Gays, especially the older ones you see at Bal and BnB, are generally a very affluent group of ppl. Correct me if I'm wrong here.


Posted by Playground on Oct-19-2007 00:43:

ok

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
"An Internet forum is a web application for holding discussions and posting user generated content. Internet forums are also commonly referred to as web forums, message boards, discussion boards, (electronic) discussion groups, discussion forums, bulletin boards, fora (the Latin plural) or simply forums."

It's all about the gay dollar, folks. Bal en Blanc started off as a gay oriented event, so kudos for Bal en Blanc for keeping to that. If you were to put someone who brings too many "straights" then there goes the essence of BeB. For us straight Househeads on here, at least we now know to not expect the crazy bookings you're seeing in the other room.


ahhh this forever boring straight-gay issue... it's so 20th Century !


Posted by Marcus007 on Oct-19-2007 00:45:

does offer nissim cater to a straight crowd micheal?


Posted by Spin Laden on Oct-19-2007 00:48:

the thread title says it all: Man-date

Personally, all I care about is if the djs perform well and drop some floor shaking beats. Victor Calderone appeals to everyone, he'd be a good choice too


Posted by Playground on Oct-19-2007 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
does offer nissim cater to a straight crowd micheal?


I'm not Michael btw...

and correct me if I'm wrong, but Offer Nissim is an artist whose productions play as much in straight clubs as it does in gay clubs.


Posted by Spin Laden on Oct-19-2007 00:55:

correct!


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