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Posted by Mecca82 on Oct-23-2007 17:46:

CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE FOR PRESIDENT!!!


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-23-2007 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by groovedaddy21
Please! Anyone but Hitlery!

We don't want a socialist state run health care. it will not work. This only favors Big Pharmarceuticals not you, unless you like to be forced medicate, forced vaccinate, forced medical screen and if you don't pass you are forced to take any number of drugs. There will be no alternative to this as all nutritional supplements will be outlawed!

She's going to continue the war with no plan on gettting out, possibly expanding into Iran, exhausting the military strength, which would reguire the draft to be reinstated in order to maintain dominance in the middle east.

All these will cost us in more tax, more of our liberty down the drain, further weakening the dollar, and possibly the end of America as we know it.



its hard to detect sarcasm online, are you serious or joking?


Posted by Clovis on Oct-23-2007 20:04:

Just hope its not a republican, because at this point the front runners for that party all seem to want to in effect continue down the exact same road Bush has...both Romney & Giuliani appear poised to take the reins of the neoconservative stagecoach.


Posted by CND on Oct-23-2007 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Just hope its not a republican, because at this point the front runners for that party all seem to want to in effect continue down the exact same road Bush has...both Romney & Giuliani appear poised to take the reins of the neoconservative stagecoach.


Explain.

And how is this "stagecoach" different than Hillary?


Posted by groovedaddy21 on Oct-23-2007 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
its hard to detect sarcasm online, are you serious or joking?


I no longer use sarcasm on the internet because of this reason.

Hillary would use violence against Tehran
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselectio...ed=networkfront

Defense Industry loves Hillary
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/...es_n_68927.html

CAFTA and Dietary Supplements
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst071805.htm
Under Hillary Health Care plan, WTO and CAFTA plan on dietary supplements will be implemented. This will require a pescription for supplements such as Vit C and E beyond RDA. Google Codex Alimentarius.


Posted by djillicit on Oct-23-2007 20:30:

Bah! Screw that, we should have Armin run for president! He's got a good enough background in poli sci, plus instead of long, boring speeches, we could hear him spin and speak with cool vocoder effects live. Now that would be something work celebrating.


Posted by CND on Oct-23-2007 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
well he was a genius, just kinda misguided. He did take a country that was in economic ruin and turned it into a world super power in 13 years. in that regard he is really smart, just a bit misguided in the end.


Misguided in the end . . . hope your being sarcastic.

Mein Kampf was written in 1925.


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-23-2007 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by CND
Misguided in the end . . . hope your being sarcastic.

Mein Kampf was written in 1925.



hehe, well if you interpret what I said literally, then yes I was. If only he wasn't hell bent on destroying other races he would have made a great leader.


Posted by |Thrax| on Oct-23-2007 21:09:

A great speaker, very charismatic, and one of the worlds greatest social engineers..

How else would you brainwash your own people into thinking all jews are evil and must be stopped..

Point proven.
Oh, and here's a fun fact, Hitlers mom was a Jew.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Oct-23-2007 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by |Thrax|
A great speaker, very charismatic, and one of the worlds greatest social engineers..

How else would you brainwash your own people into thinking all jews are evil and must be stopped..

Point proven.
Oh, and here's a fun fact, Hitlers mom was a Jew.


i heard he liked to get pissed on before he had sex with his mistress!!!

antichrist but yet sophisticated!


Posted by |Thrax| on Oct-23-2007 21:15:



Delightfully Tacky Yet Unrefined.


Posted by Clovis on Oct-23-2007 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by CND
Explain.

And how is this "stagecoach" different than Hillary?



Do I really have to? I could write a book on the subject, but to anyone who even remotely follows the campaigns and records of the candidates, it isn't hard to see.
Yes Hillary does buddy up to big business and yes she did vote for the war, but there are profound differences in her foreign policy stance compared to those of Romney & Giuliani. Both Romney & Giuliani are proponents of preemptive war and do not plan on any large reduction in Iraq troop levels if elected. Giuliani in particular has already taken key neoconservative advisers on board his team, some of whom were architects of the plan to invade Iraq, and many of whom are at this moment actively pushing for war against Iran.
Simply put, if you look at what both of them plan to do in office, it differs little from what George Bush is already doing right now. They are for mass privatization, strongly against the democratic candidates health care reform proposals, and from what I can tell perfectly content in continuing down the road Bush has paved, with a shrinking middle class and skyrocketing of social inequalities under a unified effort to maximise profits for corporations in areas never intended for them to make much money in, such as disaster relief, private security militias, infrastructure maintenance, and healthcare.


Posted by Hypersky on Oct-23-2007 21:28:

Make no mistake about it. Hilary will win the general election - comfortably. She is clearly a woman among boys in this field with too much money, name recognition, and political clout and is dealing with not only a weak Republican field, but also the baggage the GOP bring to the table via Bush and Iraq. This will be the largest margin of Victory since Bush Sr. trounced Dukakis in 88.


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-23-2007 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by |Thrax|

Oh, and here's a fun fact, Hitlers mom was a Jew.



You should read your bible, you will find all kinds of crazy crap in there. Like, did you know jesus was a jew?


Posted by CND on Oct-23-2007 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Do I really have to? I could write a book on the subject, but to anyone who even remotely follows the campaigns and records of the candidates, it isn't hard to see.
Yes Hillary does buddy up to big business and yes she did vote for the war, but there are profound differences in her foreign policy stance compared to those of Romney & Giuliani. Both Romney & Giuliani are proponents of preemptive war and do not plan on any large reduction in Iraq troop levels if elected. Giuliani in particular has already taken key neoconservative advisers on board his team, some of whom were architects of the plan to invade Iraq, and many of whom are at this moment actively pushing for war against Iran.
Simply put, if you look at what both of them plan to do in office, it differs little from what George Bush is already doing right now. They are for mass privatization, strongly against the democratic candidates health care reform proposals, and from what I can tell perfectly content in continuing down the road Bush has paved, with a shrinking middle class and skyrocketing of social inequalities under a unified effort to maximise profits for corporations in areas never intended for them to make much money in, such as disaster relief, private security militias, infrastructure maintenance, and healthcare.


Sorry but I don't recognize hyperbole and sloganeering. It is face paint for not dealing with the issues. I like to deal with specifics man specifics. For example past behavior, direct quotes and proposed policies. General "fan the flames" terms such as "shrinking middle class" & "skyrocketing social inequalities" mean nothing. There are just as many fat cat democratic contributors (anybody remember Bernie Ebbers?) as republicans.

I avoid and condone the good republican/bad democrat thought train and vise versa. It is no way to foster any real cognitive thinking.

Way to early to determine whom I am going to vote for a year from now. Not even close.

Listen, observe and take notes.

Clarity is the key. Now back to music for me . . .


Posted by Clovis on Oct-23-2007 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by CND
Sorry but I don't recognize hyperbole and sloganeering. It is face paint for not dealing with the issues. I like to deal with specifics man specifics. For example past behavior, direct quotes and proposed policies. General "fan the flames" terms such as "shrinking middle class" & "skyrocketing social inequalities" mean nothing. There are just as many fat cat democratic contributors (anybody remember Bernie Ebbers?) as republicans.

I avoid and condone the good republican/bad democrat thought train and vise versa. It is no way to foster any real cognitive thinking.

Way to early to determine whom I am going to vote for a year from now. Not even close.

Listen, observe and take notes.

Clarity is the key. Now back to music for me . . .




I'd agree with most of what you said, but its just not possible for me to get down to specifics trying to reply to you as I sit here at work. But what I said still holds true, I have read and researched to come to those conclusions. I agree with the party lines thinking being bad, but you have to admit theres a clear difference in direction they each want to take the country, especially with Romney & Giuliani as front runners.


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