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Posted by DjWoody on Oct-25-2007 23:34:

I mix all sorts of styles, and I can pretty much rock both crowds. But one thing that annoys me, is how EDM is supposed to be all about the music, yet, look at all of you hating on hip hop. I don't see that in the "Other World." Actually, they appreciate EDM and rarely hate. I think I get respect from them because I can spin both and I can rock either crowd.

If you get close minded, you'll get no where. Specially here in LA. The EDM market is very small. The Top 40 market is huge! And if it wasn't because of my Top 40/Hip Hop gigs, I would not be resident at Vanguard, Queen Mary, and I would've not played at many clubs. You'll be surprised how many "Hip hop" heads actually like EDM. They just like it a little bit different. Just these past few weeks, I was told by 2 of my residencies to stop playing hip hop and to play only EDM. It's a whole new ballgame, EDM and Hip Hop are merging again like they did back in the mid 90's. And it's not just EDM and Hip Hop, it's EDM and a whole lot of other genres.




Posted by DjWoody on Oct-25-2007 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Are you trying to say you're a douchebag?


No, I'm trying to say that I'm a DJ that plays Top 40 and I'M NOT A DOUCHEBAG. Any TA here that knows me can tell you that. And there's a lot of TA's here that know me personally, and respect me.


Posted by Zild on Oct-25-2007 23:40:

Then why do you have the douche stare in your avatar?


Posted by DjWoody on Oct-25-2007 23:41:

Now, back on topic.

I agree with the rest. If you don't know this style, don't take the gig. I'm sure you wouldn't want a hip hop DJ hald ass his opening set for Armin. It's the same thing. Don't ruin the clubber's night.

On the other hand, if you're serious about it, I can give you a lot of pointers and give you track names for songs that are hot in LA.


Posted by DjWoody on Oct-25-2007 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Then why do you have the douche stare in your avatar?


Here we go with the personal attacks. Grow up, I'm moving on. It was nice meeting you.


Posted by Zild on Oct-25-2007 23:45:

You should be more like my cousin. He embraces the fact that he is a douchebag. No reason to fight it.


Posted by stan229 on Oct-25-2007 23:47:

my main gripe is that a dj shuold play what he enjoys playing, whether its hiphop, top40, edm.. i dont think its right to be forced to play something youre not comfortable with just because it gets you gigs


Posted by DjWoody on Oct-25-2007 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by stan229
my main gripe is that a dj shuold play what he enjoys playing, whether its hiphop, top40, edm.. i dont think its right to be forced to play something youre not comfortable with just because it gets you gigs


And that I agree. I play both because I like both. I don't like listening to hip hop, but I like playing it. It's a whole different world. But either way, I love EDM. EDM has been my thing ever since 1992. I love it.


Posted by jpisani on Oct-26-2007 00:26:

Nowhere in the original post does he say he doesn't like hip-hop or top40, so maybe the point of taking gigs just to get gigs and not playing music you like shouldn't be brought up.

Anyways, my 2 cents.

Its pretty easy if your just making quick transitions, but you need to have A LOT of music. For an hour gig playing trance, you might need to play 10 tracks, and I find that I can go through 10 tracks in 20 minutes or less mixing rap and the like.


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-26-2007 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Still haven't met any top40 DJs who aren't douche bags. And I've met a whole lot of DJs.

Saying if you wanted to dj for yourself you would stay in your bedroom is tantamount to admitting the only way you can find work is to cater to the lowest common denominator.


saying that all top40 dj's are douchebags is tantamount to admitting that you are a close minded troll who gets a boner from putting down hip hop/top40 dj's.


Posted by a.chan on Oct-26-2007 04:59:

I find that you have to know your tracks more when playing hiphop as opposed to EDM, its harder to find the perfect spot to drop the next track in.


Posted by Zild on Oct-26-2007 11:36:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
saying that all top40 dj's are douchebags is tantamount to admitting that you are a close minded troll who gets a boner from putting down hip hop/top40 dj's.


Nope just speaking the truth. Besides a close minded person would probably be one who can't think for themselves and needs a radio chart to tell them what to play for the rest of the spiky haired, popped collar douches.

Just because you don't let the music industry stuff trash music up your ass doesn't make you close minded.

My main point here though is that hip-hop isn't harder than anything else. At least that is my experience from playing hip-hop for years. But yea I'll keep on being close minded and digging for great music that people haven't heard a hundred times before.

To be fair not only top40 DJ are major bags because quite a bit of EDM jocks are guilty of buying the top 10 on Beatport and not thinking for themselves, etc...


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-26-2007 12:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Nope just speaking the truth. Besides a close minded person would probably be one who can't think for themselves and needs a radio chart to tell them what to play for the rest of the spiky haired, popped collar douches.

Just because you don't let the music industry stuff trash music up your ass doesn't make you close minded.


i know some really talented "top40"ish DJs. there is a time and a place for all kinds of music, stop being a wanker.


Posted by Zild on Oct-26-2007 14:18:

Nobody ever said you can't be a talented douche. Lets try using a little bit of logic here. And I'll stop being a jerk when you stop being one. That will happen about hmmm never.

You are right there is a time and place for top40. You will find it at your local guido/douche hangout.


Posted by everett on Oct-26-2007 14:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Nobody ever said you can't be a talented douche. Lets try using a little bit of logic here. And I'll stop being a jerk when you stop being one. That will happen about hmmm never.

You are right there is a time and place for top40. You will find it at your local guido/douche hangout.


There are plenty of "guido's" in both crowds. For every person that isn't tolerant of EDM there's an EDM person who is tolerant of other music. They all have there own styles and both have just as many tools in the crowd.


Posted by Zild on Oct-26-2007 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by everett
There are plenty of "guido's" in both crowds. For every person that isn't tolerant of EDM there's an EDM person who is tolerant of other music. They all have there own styles and both have just as many tools in the crowd.


Yep that is why I said there are EDM douches too. Reference my earlier posts. Most guidos are found in top40 and commercialized house. There is a place here that does all electronic music on Saturdays, but I don't go because it is full of guido douchebags listening to the worst house music ever.

I can just see them shopping/stealing music. "This was top 10 on beatport it is shit hot!" Hmmm actually you mean it is just shit, but whatever.


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-26-2007 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Nope just speaking the truth. Besides a close minded person would probably be one who can't think for themselves and needs a radio chart to tell them what to play for the rest of the spiky haired, popped collar douches.

Just because you don't let the music industry stuff trash music up your ass doesn't make you close minded.

My main point here though is that hip-hop isn't harder than anything else. At least that is my experience from playing hip-hop for years. But yea I'll keep on being close minded and digging for great music that people haven't heard a hundred times before.

To be fair not only top40 DJ are major bags because quite a bit of EDM jocks are guilty of buying the top 10 on Beatport and not thinking for themselves, etc...


there are many top 40 songs i dont play because they do suck. i hardly ever look at the charts. however, i do reccomend new hip-hop djs to pay attention to the carts. i dont need to look at the charts to know what's hot. if i hear a song and i think it's hot, i'll play it. 9/10 times the songs that i hear and prefer to play are on the charts or will be in the near future.


Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-26-2007 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
there are many top 40 songs i dont play because they do suck. i hardly ever look at the charts. however, i do reccomend new hip-hop djs to pay attention to the carts. i dont need to look at the charts to know what's hot. if i hear a song and i think it's hot, i'll play it. 9/10 times the songs that i hear and prefer to play are on the charts or will be in the near future.


exactly

and most top 40 guys i know are in at least a record pool or two so they get plenty of new fresh selection


Posted by Zild on Oct-26-2007 19:14:

Ain't nothing in the world like a fresh pile of shit. Gotta have that steam coming off.


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-27-2007 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Ain't nothing in the world like a fresh pile of shit. Gotta have that steam coming off.


on your chest? i didnt know you were into that kind of stuff...


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Oct-27-2007 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
EDM and Hip Hop are merging again like they did back in the mid 90's. And it's not just EDM and Hip Hop, it's EDM and a whole lot of other genres.


yeah im starting to notice this trend... its been going on for a while now not only in top40s but also in EDM (Evol Intent anyone??? Timberlake...) but i still feel as though EDM in a lot of places is an outcast, but hip-hop isnt so bad.... your just not looking thats all use them DJ ears and actually spend some time and get out and find GOOD hip-hop, its out there just hidden by all the bling and gansta bullshit...

i really started diggin into good hip-hop because i love Drum n Bass, just try looking beyond the pop charts for hip-hop and dig deep just like you dip deep for those unknown tracks in Trance and House


Posted by DjWoody on Oct-27-2007 22:40:

Yeah! Music is merging and mainstream clubs are accepting EDM again. Last night I played at a CalState Long Beach Party (University), and I had no clue what to expect. When I got there, the promoters told me to play mainly hip hop & top 40, but they also said I was free to explore anything. So as soon as I got a chance, I started playing house, and BAM! The place exploded. I kept my house a little bit mainstream, but it was fun. A year ago, I wasn't even able to do that because it would clear the dance floor. To keep it interesting, I kept going back and forth between house, trance & uptempo Top 40 every 30 min. The key is to keep breaks to a minimum and very short! As you can see, I edit a lot of the tracks, and re-arrange them to keep them interesting.

Here's some of the tracks I played..

Samin vs Khia - Lick My Heater
Alex Gaudino vs Crystal Waters - Destination Calabria
Federico Franchi - Cream
The Freaks - The Creeps (Vandalism Mix)
The Killers - Mr Brightside (Jacques Lu Cont Remix)
Eric Prydz - Proper Education
Axwell - Sweet Dreams
Ferry Corsten - Punk (Dj Woody Edit)
Tiesto - Lethal Industy 2007 (DJ Woody Edit)
Depeche Mode - Just Can't Get Enough (Dirty South Remix - DJ Woody Edit)
Bob Sinclair - Rock This Party
Bob Sinclair - World Hold On (Original)
Fedde Le Grand - Put Your Hands Up For LA
Daft Punk - Crescendolls
Daft Punk - One More Time
Modjo - Lady 2007 (Electro Remix)
Timbaland - The Way I Are (Icons Electro Remix)
Top Modelz - Your Love (Mondo Remix)
Darude - Sandstorm (Tuff House Electro Remix)
Laurent Wolf - Saxo 2006 (Tribal Mix)
Ritmo Dynamic - Boca Linda
Dave Lambert - Funkytown 2007 (DJ Woody Edit)



Posted by Cosmic Realm on Oct-27-2007 23:49:

why keep breaks to a minimum???

there are plenty of good Breaks remixes of main sream hip-hop out there...


Posted by DjWoody on Oct-28-2007 00:21:

I meant breakdowns on EDM tracks. If you have a track that has a 3 min breakdown the mainstream people will clear the floor.


Posted by Beatflux on Oct-28-2007 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
I meant breakdowns on EDM tracks. If you have a track that has a 3 min breakdown the mainstream people will clear the floor.


Outro -> Breakdown


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