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Posted by bas on Oct-29-2007 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by plaxx
Source

lies lies lies lies lies lies


Posted by plaxx on Oct-29-2007 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Erotic Buddha
sasha really needs to lay off the boring tech/minimal house snoozefest he's been shitting out of his asshole over the past two years and return to his mid to late 90s trend-setting form...same applies to digweed


What i'm about to say isn't popular but here, stop living in the past! Those times are gone, music has evolved, dont look for that sound anymore, especially not with the two artists mentioned.


Posted by iammesol on Oct-29-2007 00:49:

Most likely, they're probably going to switch to another genre that they've bested like previous years.


Posted by wotyzoid on Oct-29-2007 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I disagree, like I just said, he has an amazing DJ platfrom which he doesn't even use to a fraction of its potential. Mixing one track after the other, as smooth and well EQ'd/hormonically sound as it gets, is just not interesting, and while his mixing is always decent, its no where near what it could be...and what he is capable of.


oh yes, definitely no more of the 7 minutes long mixes quality has definitely dropped but surprisingly enough I still love his sets, I think he has great taste in music by the stuff he plays. Then again my opinion only counts so much since I've never seen many him or many others live..=/


Posted by Alex on Oct-29-2007 02:58:

I liked his set at Tribe, although I'd heard most of the tunes in previous sets of his.

Lately I find he is hit or miss, as is Digweed.

But I don't think we've seen the end of Sasha, I think when it comes down to it, he's still one of the few DJs I can rely on to tear up the dancefloor whenever I see him.

RJT: Just because you had a bad night seeing Sasha, doesn't mean he plays lousy everywhere.

As far as his Ableton set up goes, at first I think it was all about being very cutting edge and technical, he was trying new and crazy things and doing some funked up shit with the tunes he was playing... Just like any DJ does when they make the switch over to Ableton, they try all the crazy things that they weren't able to do with the CDJs/TTs.

When it comes down to it though, whatever medium you use, you have to let the tracks themselves do most of the talking, those of you who are complaining about him using Live I don't think WOULD be if you loved all the tunes he was playing, because in the end, if you have a stick shoved so far up your ass that you can't enjoy GREAT tunes at a club because the DJ is on a computer and not on the CDjs... You have issues and probably shouldn't bother listening to the music anymore because of how cynical about the whole thing you've become.

When he played at Tribe he was doing some fun stuff with it, I am getting to know the program well-ish myself, been using it a few months, and I was impressed with the way he uses it to add lots of drama to the build ups, and how he uses little bits and pieces of some tracks to bridge the way between tunes that are of completely different styles/genres.

But ya, his track lists have been too recycled lately, but in regards to the ableton thing, meh, he uses it how he uses it, DJing with Ableton is a constant learning process, I don't think Sasha is the Ableton Master by any stretch and I think he'll continue to do and try new things with it and we'll see where it goes!


Posted by jupiterone on Oct-29-2007 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
When it comes down to it though, whatever medium you use, you have to let the tracks themselves do most of the talking, those of you who are complaining about him using Live I don't think WOULD be if you loved all the tunes he was playing, because in the end, if you have a stick shoved so far up your ass that you can't enjoy GREAT tunes at a club because the DJ is on a computer and not on the CDjs... You have issues and probably shouldn't bother listening to the music anymore because of how cynical about the whole thing you've become.



Best thing posted in a while.


Posted by llavoe on Oct-29-2007 04:53:

Laptop, CD, vinyl, 8-track... doesn't matter. Sasha's done... Reason? Ableton making him lazy? Maybe... Over it because he has no hair? Could be... Married now and ready to have a kid? ::ing::: Women will do it every time.


After hearing his essential mix stand out so much from everything he has done this year, I knew all his US shows would suck. How many times can we hear supermayer 2 of us and Jurgen's love it this year?

If you stay on top of Sasha's sets 24/7 and then go see him live, you are going to be let down on the chance of hearing new stuff from him. There's a better chance of a comet hitting you in the face rather than hearing a stand out set from Sasha anytime soon. Even the Boat party in NY this summer, and the private shows he is crazy about doing now (at cielo and love) you won't hear anything different from what he plays everywhere else.

Best advice is to stop listening to all of his sets for a while, and then go see him not knowing what he is playing. You might have a good time if he doesn't loopy-doopy-ping-pong on Ableton all night.


Posted by jupiterone on Oct-29-2007 05:17:

Jet-set life
Wife
About to have a kid
Caring for his wife and her pregnancy while DJ'ing
Extensive tour/CD work
Extensive club schedule
Hunting down music
Preparing for a gig

It's not as easy as a lot may think, once you hit such a pounding schedule I doubt you'll have much time and go to hammer an absolutely monster set each gig. Seriously.


Posted by iammesol on Oct-29-2007 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
Jet-set life
Wife
About to have a kid
Caring for his wife and her pregnancy while DJ'ing
Extensive tour/CD work
Extensive club schedule
Hunting down music
Preparing for a gig

It's not as easy as a lot may think, once you hit such a pounding schedule I doubt you'll have much time and go to hammer an absolutely monster set each gig. Seriously.


w0rd


Posted by Cobalt on Oct-29-2007 06:27:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
Jet-set life
Wife
About to have a kid
Caring for his wife and her pregnancy while DJ'ing
Extensive tour/CD work
Extensive club schedule
Hunting down music
Preparing for a gig

It's not as easy as a lot may think, once you hit such a pounding schedule I doubt you'll have much time and go to hammer an absolutely monster set each gig. Seriously.

That's completely true.


Posted by DJ Patski on Oct-29-2007 07:16:

I think his setup is very impressive but at the end of the day it's the music not the technology that matters. I've tried to get into his music by listening to some essential mixes and sets and they just bore me.

Personal preference, nothing more.


Posted by RJT on Oct-29-2007 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex

RJT: Just because you had a bad night seeing Sasha, doesn't mean he plays lousy everywhere.


I have seen him many, many times throughout Europe and the States, and further put an infinite amount of effort into downloading and listening to his live sets for years. Please don't speak to me as if I'm some ignorant new cunt without a clue, I know what I like, and frankly the past few years, I have not found much to like about Sasha, and it seems to be getting worse and worse.

And the medium has nothing to do with it either. Good music is good music, regardless, but unfortunately I haven't seen heard much that I'd consistently categorize as "good music" from the man (as far as DJ'ing goes) in a long time.


Posted by RJT on Oct-29-2007 14:39:

Also, I don't actually believe he does any of these things:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone

Extensive CD work

Hunting down music
Preparing for a gig



...he plays what his scouts find (and prewarp) for him, and that's it.


Posted by Gauss on Oct-29-2007 14:53:

Offtopic, his productions from wipEout 3 soundtrack are mint.

(I had to say that. )


Posted by DiegoParra32 on Oct-29-2007 14:54:

i love sasha but he has been rather hit or miss lately. diggers though on the other hand has been on a rampage. i'm still whoring out his essential mix


Posted by Orko on Oct-29-2007 16:22:

Most of what needs to be said, has been said.

My admiration for Sasha came from the fact that he used to play very smooth sets. Sets which just built over a few hours, and by the end you didn't even realise how much energy you were dancing with.

It seems as if his sets have become less smooth, especially with Ableton. Just saw him this past Saturday, and the set sounded...laboured. The transitions were boring as hell, and he was going for a very tech sound, which I don't think is his strong point. The entire night felt like he was searching for something to play, rather than knowing what to play.

If he stays closer to melodic progressive, he does a much better job, then when he tries to minimalist stuff. Bring back the melody Sasha, and we will listen again.


Posted by jupiterone on Oct-29-2007 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Also, I don't actually believe he does any of these things:


...he plays what his scouts find (and prewarp) for him, and that's it.



That is very true, didn't think of that.


Posted by smakmagik on Oct-29-2007 17:59:

Sasha @ Sobieski Uogos OnAir (20.10.2007)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jtlhbz


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Oct-29-2007 18:51:

My once favourite DJ has bored the shit out of me for many years now. Pity.


Posted by RJT on Oct-29-2007 18:52:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
My once favourite DJ has bored the shit out of me for many years now. Pity.



Posted by UWM on Oct-29-2007 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT





Posted by Clovis on Oct-29-2007 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT



The difference is, you've actually heard Sasha sets since 2002, Mikey has not.


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Oct-29-2007 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DiegoParra32
i love sasha but he has been rather hit or miss lately. diggers though on the other hand has been on a rampage.

Digweed may not be a hit or miss to the extent of Sasha, but he is still hit or miss. I went to see him last March during his Transitions 2 (a compilation that I liked) tour and all it was a boring 3 hour set that went absolutely nowhere with a bunch of frat guys jumping around and trying to pick up chicks. The second part of the explanation in the previous sentence has made a huge contribution to my disappointment in the whole event, but Digweed's set played a big part too - stepping outside for a minute would be the same as for an hour, nothing was to be missed.


Posted by llavoe on Oct-29-2007 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by ibizzzaaa
Digweed may not be a hit or miss to the extent of Sasha, but he is still hit or miss. I went to see him last March during his Transitions 2 (a compilation that I liked) tour and all it was a boring 3 hour set that went absolutely nowhere with a bunch of frat guys jumping around and trying to pick up chicks. The second part of the explanation in the previous sentence has made a huge contribution to my disappointment in the whole event, but Digweed's set played a big part too - stepping outside for a minute would be the same as for an hour, nothing was to be missed.


digweed hates playing in the states... And has a big chip on his shoulder about Americans... Sasha does to.


Posted by Clovis on Oct-29-2007 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
digweed hates playing in the states... And has a big chip on his shoulder about Americans... Sasha does to.



Rightfully so.


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