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Posted by Swamper on Nov-07-2007 03:13:

The problem, I find, is the automatic disapproval of those who show an enthusiasm for Trance -- it either takes the form of snobby remarks or more blatant abuse. Oddly enough, it is rare to see Trance fans attack fans of other genres -- the fans of the other genres will say it is because those Trance fans are 'noobs' or they still don't 'know' electronica, etc.

Many times I read shit on here and I wonder where the hostility comes from... it's almost as if the people that were once avid Trance fans have become disgusted with what they hear produced today and their gut instinct is to downplay any praise given -- simply because the 'old' stuff was so much better to them. My tastes in EDM are almost as varied now as they were years ago -- I'm equally at home at a House party as I am at a Trance or Techno one -- it's nice to have variety and not feel the need to downplay one genre simply because your personal preference is for another. After all, isn't that what we used to all bitch about when the HipHop/Rockers/etc. called all our music 'Techno' or just repetitive noise? Same principle applies - listen to what you like and respect the choices of others.


Posted by distant on Nov-07-2007 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Oddly enough, it is rare to see Trance fans attack fans of other genres -- the fans of the other genres will say it is because those Trance fans are 'noobs' or they still don't 'know' electronica, etc.


Well, it's true. Trance is a gateway genre, and has been for the past 10 years. That means a large portion of trance listeners are first-timers, and aren't even likely to know what broken beat, detroit techno, IDM, acid, dubstep, grime etc. are. They've got this whole fluffy, cuddly "ignorance is bliss" thing going, which makes me wanna puke.


Posted by B_man on Nov-07-2007 04:11:

Trance was not a gateway genre for me... when it comes to electronic music, I first discovered ambient, then some video game music which had many genre influences, and then I found trance at mp3.com before it became too commercialized. I discovered trance thanks to "Trance[]Control" -- one of those groups who I still like to listen to even after everything I've learned about EDM (personally).


Posted by Clovis on Nov-07-2007 07:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Oddly enough, it is rare to see Trance fans attack fans of other genres


It's been pretty common lately.


Posted by Sykonee on Nov-07-2007 09:17:

quote:
Originally posted by distant
Modern trance is some of the most superficial music in the world. I can't imagine it affecting somebody profoundly.

You've yet to see a Yanni concert, eh?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-07-2007 09:20:

Didn't you already make this thread once and then delete it?


Posted by Darkarbiter on Nov-07-2007 10:50:

quote:
Originally posted by sonix
i see that behavior as similar to an ex-born-again christian or an ex-drug addict or an ex-something. they feel like they were cheated by the institution that they once innocently loved. or that they feel superior because they've came out of it, so others should too. so they impose that new founded belief onto others. or in the religious analogy, they project that strong hatred they've developed while being christians onto other born-again christians now that the projectors are no longer christians, because they see themselves in other born-again christians and they hate what they see, which are themselves in the past. so they make a strong effort to go anti-christian, even to the extremes. it's a self-hating behavior. it can apply to people of other groups too like peta or anti-gay groups etc. my above analogy may not be that great but i can't think of anything else right now this late at night.

Well certainly it's not exactly like that... I mean people tend to get into the different stuff (generally deeper) after listening to electronic music for a while. Perhaps trance/house/hardstyle are gateway genres... but It's certainly different to religion or anything else.

Although I'll defenitly say hardstyle is the perfect example of a gateway genre... no ones gonna listen to that forever.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Nov-07-2007 11:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Although I'll defenitly say hardstyle is the perfect example of a gateway genre... no ones gonna listen to that forever.


I've been noticing that many people here who started with trance are now enjoying hardstyle a fair bit. But then again, those people are usually fans of 'Anthem' and all this crap so it doesn't really surprise me.


Posted by Big Poppa Smurf on Nov-07-2007 13:17:

yes, this is the second trance affect your life thread. the first one did not go too well. It looks like this love the world thing is just a normal phase that everyone goes through. I started spinning because of trance music, althought I have listen to other genre before. Trance was the first that inspired me to start seeking a career in music. Something I should have done along time ago.


Posted by Big Poppa Smurf on Nov-07-2007 15:26:

I bet that's starting to sound like a broken record around here?


Posted by Nostalgic on Nov-07-2007 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
It's been pretty common lately.


not everyone bashing shit genres like electro, minimal and tech house are "trance" fans


Posted by Salegon on Nov-07-2007 19:06:

I remember this thread being deleted...

However, Trance got me into knowing more about the depht of the internet


Posted by scyhn on Nov-07-2007 19:32:

I've been listening to trance for years now, but I still consider myself new to it -- just because there so much music out there to listen to -- so many genres. I mean even though a lot of the music sounds similar there are individual things about them that are unique. A song can start playing and I will automatically know which song it is as soon as the beat drops -- even though I haven't heard the song for years...

I feel that trance is only a gateway to itself [well in my case at least]. I've been listening to hiphop, rock and alternative my whole life -- but when I started listening to trance it slowly took over all my play lists. I just started spinning this week and I'm actually excited about it -- but hearing people say that trance is dead kinda gives me second thoughts about it -- sh*t...I'm not spinning for myself...

I don't understand why people would flame others just for the genre of trance they listen to. In the long run -- trance is trance -- you have to be open to it if you are a true trance head. Or, just respect it for what it is.


Posted by body125z on Nov-07-2007 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
So is iclone.


haha on th post we got out of subject... i love this forum!!!


Posted by TranceIsFreedom on Nov-07-2007 22:44:

If trance has any influence, it's only the good one. It can really change one's character and seeing of the world.


Posted by B_man on Nov-07-2007 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceIsFreedom
If trance has any influence, it's only the good one. It can really change one's character and seeing of the world.


Probably the most positive comment since my paradoxal list...


Posted by Big Poppa Smurf on Nov-07-2007 23:35:

Actually, now that I think of it. My first experience with EDM was way back in the early 90s with Prodigy (Experience, and the jolted album), The Chemical Brothers and KDMF. After that I started listening to Latin Music, like Salsa, Bachatta and Merengue. Learned to dance to it and even sang it at a few occasions. Even through I had not idea what the words meant, but I have listened to the tracks enough times to remember the lyrics. The rhythm that I picked up from these genres (especially Salsa) gave me the awesome dance moves that I now use to dance to EDM. Then it was off to Hip-Hop and Rap. Damn, those were some crazy years. (Not worth talking about). I found trance while searching for techno. Picked up a few tracks by accident and didn�t even know that I was listening to trance until some friends pointed it out.


Posted by Big Poppa Smurf on Nov-07-2007 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by iclone
a reading from the book of TXTA :


LMAO. I think I know that song.,,


Posted by noikeee on Nov-08-2007 00:01:

Re: The Influence of Trance Music.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Bly
How has Trance affected you? Do favoring a certain genre of trance like vocal, and epic make you a calmer person while hardcore and dark trance invoke a more aggressive personality?


i'm not writing all that shit again.


Posted by Big Poppa Smurf on Nov-08-2007 00:04:

Re: Re: The Influence of Trance Music.

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
i'm not writing all that shit again.


I know... I am soooo sooo sorry people. I think my brief apology thread got more hits than anything else I've posted. that was not pretty... =|


Posted by wotyzoid on Nov-08-2007 00:05:

I call for url stays and title of the site changes.....


Posted by Zombie0915 on Nov-08-2007 18:32:

hmmm, trance influence, my guessing for how the general story goes:

Its late 90's/early 00's, you are generally a lonely and perhaps geeky awkward teenager without their own little clique of cool kids in high school.

You get on napster/torrents/tranceaddict/digitallyimported or have an older brother or weird friend who has revealed this new thing called trance to you. You fall in love with it, you see the videos of the massives with the mega hordes of happy glowing people and feel like you are finally part of something, because you see something that you can fit in with.

You suddenly become nicer and happier and download a shit ton of tunes and dress funny, you aren't old enough to actually see these people in person yet, you just collect music and fantasize. You get ambitous about revealing this wonderful new thing to all the oblivous people you know and becoming mega rave superstar.

Its mid 00's your an adult now, you go out a lot, maybe you have trouble finding that amazing party that you were hoping for, but you search, and eventually you find one event. It is some amazing climactic experience for you, the closest the the fufillment of those teenage fantasies that you will ever get. You dive deep into your partying at this point, you have a little group of people you run around with and just love to death.

Give it a couple more years, no party since that first amazing thing has ever pleased you quite as much, your awesome group of friends have moved on with their lives and you don't see them around anymore, the sound is different, the parties are disappointing you, you are more observant of what is going on around you and realize that things have always been this way. You feel like you are in high school all over again.

It forks in two directions from here, you either adapt or grow cold. You will reach this "dont give a fuck" stage where rather than being this empathic sweet happy person you are perhaps a braver, louder, and brutally honest type. It doesn't necessarily mean you get rude, but you no longer have this fantasy in your head that you are chasing and trying to resemble.


Cor version:
you start out all happy and sensitive then you just don't care anymore about what other people think and just do whatever the hell you want.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Nov-08-2007 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915


I love your posts.


Posted by Dexterlandy on Nov-08-2007 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
Autobiography


Pretty sad life story you have there.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Nov-08-2007 19:53:

it is more an aggregation of lots of peoples trance experience, you see variations on that theme over and over, and yes I did experience such a variation, its nothing to get sad about


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