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Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-09-2007 00:04:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Experts

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
but yeah, a lot of studies are bollocks.

I actually find the interpretation of research findings are bullocks. A lot of the time non-experts only get their research news from news sources, who totally do not understand science (non-experts).

therefore when you get a non expert that does not understand operationalization, independent and dependent variables, alpha levels, and the like trying to interpret these research studies, they are bound to mess something up. and it is usually in the conclusions they make, they make grandiose conclusions that the research is not about.

/expert researcher mode

Posted by noikeee on Nov-09-2007 00:21:

how does one become officially an expert? i've always wanted to know.

Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-09-2007 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
how does one become officially an expert? i've always wanted to know.

someone has to call you an expert.

Posted by noikeee on Nov-09-2007 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
someone has to call you an expert.

Yeah right, you must be a fucking expert.

Like this?

Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-09-2007 00:27:

exactly

Posted by Fledz on Nov-09-2007 03:24:

Re: Re: Re: Experts

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Depends on how fit the cleaner is

And I'm talking about experts being trotted out to state the obvious...and I doubt half these tossers have spent 1/3 of their lives studying, most of them are still arsing around at university and blowing their student loan...

Yea it can get overused but to be fair, they are in most cases. The problem is what they are actually experts on. Sometimes they spend 20 years trying to figure out something pointless. I mean sure they are experts but what the fuck for?

Posted by Lira on Nov-09-2007 03:36:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Experts

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
I actually find the interpretation of research findings are bullocks. A lot of the time non-experts only get their research news from news sources, who totally do not understand science (non-experts).

therefore when you get a non expert that does not understand operationalization, independent and dependent variables, alpha levels, and the like trying to interpret these research studies, they are bound to mess something up. and it is usually in the conclusions they make, they make grandiose conclusions that the research is not about.

This is something that annoys me a bit about science news. Is it hard to contact someone who knows about the stuff being published and ask for assistance?

Reporters often arrive at absurd conclusions simply because they don't know what exactly they're reading.

Posted by Fledz on Nov-09-2007 03:39:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Experts

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
This is something that annoys me a bit about science news. Is it hard to contact someone who knows about the stuff being published and ask for assistance?

Reporters often arrive at absurd conclusions simply because they don't know what exactly they're reading.

They do it for money. The media is now an entertainment business, not a source of real factual information and has not been for a while.

I have a feeling they fabricate a lot of stuff on purpose just to get a story.

Posted by LoveHate on Nov-09-2007 03:40:

Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-09-2007 05:32:

"That's why they sent me, I am expert."

Posted by 3F05Q on Nov-09-2007 13:19:

Some fodder for your rant:

quote:
[Dude] invited 57 wine experts and asked them to give their impressions of what looked like two glasses of red and white wine. The wines were actually the same white wine, one of which had been tinted red with food coloring. But that didn't stop the experts from describing the "red" wine in language typically used to describe red wines. One expert praised its "jamminess," while another enjoyed its "crushed red fruit." Not a single one noticed it was actually a white wine.

from here

Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-09-2007 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by 3F05Q
Some fodder for your rant:

from here

Frederic Brochet forgot about control groups.

cool experiment though.

Posted by noikeee on Nov-09-2007 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
Frederic Brochet

Awesome name.

In portuguese, that's Freddy Blowjob.

Posted by Lira on Nov-09-2007 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
Awesome name.

In portuguese, that's Freddy Blowjob.

It's funny because it's true

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