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Originally posted by MR STROKE holly shit, you would think this was "castles in the sky".. I can't belive all the hate here?? its pretty boring and doesn't really go anywhere but jesus its not THAT bad.

I've definitely heard much, much worse music...

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Originally posted by Clovis I've definitely heard much, much worse music...

Like anything by Dieslboy. Still, this is pitiful.

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Originally posted by RJT Like anything by Dieslboy. Still, this is pitiful.

I'd rather listen to emissions on loop than 5 minutes of pretty much any radio station in LA.

Actually, I'd for-go both and shoot myself before I had to choose...

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Originally posted by MR STROKE holly shit, you would think this was "castles in the sky".. I can't belive all the hate here?? its pretty boring and doesn't really go anywhere but jesus its not THAT bad.

yep.

it's basically a completely forgettable track about nothing, certainly doesn't deserve at all to be getting big sales, but still.. i'd much rather listen to this dullness than listen to Filo & Peri - The Anthem or stuff like that.

well its not the worst track ever but i cant ever imagine wanting to hear it again.

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Originally posted by noikeee yep. it's basically a completely forgettable track about nothing, certainly doesn't deserve at all to be getting big sales, but still.. i'd much rather listen to this dullness than listen to Filo & Peri - The Anthem or stuff like that.

The difference is that shit or not, the Anthem is actually a complete song.

All of Dubfire's efforts sound like he made it halfway and said "Meh - Ritchie will sell it for me."

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Originally posted by InDeepSpace Lol, they were the hot shit in the middle of the nineties. Sadly later they went crap with commercial shit like 'Flashdance'.

"Lol" indeed.
they weren't
looking back the only track I'd even consider playing of theirs would be the hideaway remix

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Originally posted by RJT The difference is that shit or not, the Anthem is actually a complete song. All of Dubfire's efforts sound like he made it halfway and said "Meh - Ritchie will sell it for me."

It's all related.The crap will sell on its own. Since Ali is well established in EDM, this helps for M_nus to be exposed to a new audience, and in return Ali gets a new outlet for his "new sound"
Props to Ali's (and his producer) and M_nus label management for a wise business decision? How long will they milk this cash cow for? who knows. It's to the point where musical integrity has been long forgotten. Seems like now it's all about pushing those numbers with mediocre, soulless, uninspired material.

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Originally posted by bobba lou It's all related.The crap will sell on its own. Since Ali is well established in EDM, this helps for M_nus to be exposed to a new audience, and in return Ali gets a new outlet for his "new sound" Props to Ali's (and his producer) and M_nus label management for a wise business decision? How long will they milk this cash cow for? who knows. It's to the point where musical integrity has been long forgotten. Seems like now it's all about pushing those numbers with mediocre, soulless, uninspired material.

Well said.. it's sad but true

in the other thread I was voicing my displeasure with 'roadkill' but I must say those two recent mixes out on toolroom are pretty cool.

as for this song, i don't see what's THAT bad about it. It's tough for me to hate a song when the song I listened to before it was Robbie Rivera's remix of The Fray - How to Save a Life. tech house is the hot thing now and there are going to be lots of mediocore releases trying to imitate a style, this is one of the many. It just happens to be made by producer who became huge for a totally different style of music.

It's like he's trying to make kind of a bodzin type song. They aren't the most imaginative pieces of music out there but I kind of like the basslines in this and roadkill. good for mixing, but yeah i wouldn't want to listen to 8 straight minutes. Or M_nutes in this case

I thought Roadkill was kinda cool, but this is track is really odd. I just listened to the beatport sample and wonder if there is anything happening in the track at all?

I guess to understand that track you have to be a minimal bandwagon whore

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Originally posted by Az "Lol" indeed. they weren't looking back the only track I'd even consider playing of theirs would be the hideaway remix

There were much more:

Alcatraz - Give Me Love
+ tons of other good remixes under the Alcatraz name mostly on AM:PM

Everything But The Girl Vs Deep Dish - The Future Of the Future

+ especially this one roxx:

Sandy B - Make The World Go Round (thats the one Camisra later ripped for Let Me Show You)

Only listened to the 1 minute sample on Juno, but it sounds quite nice to me... this is the sort of M_Nus i love Shouldn't be thought of as a single track more as a tool used with other songs, same goes for stuff from guys like JPLS.

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Originally posted by Dj_Es-Dva Only listened to the 1 minute sample on Juno, but it sounds quite nice to me... this is the sort of M_Nus i love Shouldn't be thought of as a single track more as a tool used with other songs, same goes for stuff from guys like JPLS.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Actually, the running argument for tracks like these is something like this: "It isn't meant to be a song; it's more like a DJ tool, to be used by DJs in their sets. You just have to hear it on a loud sound system to truly appreciate how awesome this track is!"

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Originally posted by Ted Promo

lol, that's the same thing that came into my mind

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Originally posted by Ted Promo

LOL My Bad, didn't read all the posts, irrespective from the short sample ive heard it sounds alright imo.

Re: Dubfire - Emissions [m_nus]

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Originally posted by RJT

Have you heard Dubfire's rmx of System 7 - Space Bird? One of my top 5 - maybe even top 3 - tracks of the year. It's absolutely massive.

It caught me off guard because like you said, most of his stuff is so-so.

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Originally posted by RJT The difference is that shit or not, the Anthem is actually a complete song.

I know, but it hurts so much my ears that i prefer an half-a-song over it. Even if I'm aware Filo & Peri probably spent a lot more time perfecting it and put a hell lot more work into it, than Dubfire into this, erm, "ch00n".

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Originally posted by jupiterone I must be the only one that likes it

Ya me too. I kinda like it. It�s the monotony and the build and stop that I love. Reminds me a of a train chugging along�

listening to Efdemin's RA podcast again, this track reminds me of an imitation of the Villalobos / Blood On My Hands remix

edit: eh maybe a little bit. that acid line in blood on my hands is unmistakeable

its techno..

repetitive filler track.

every track doesnt have to be a epic break down song.

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Originally posted by LoveHate its techno.. repetitive filler track. every track doesnt have to be a epic break down song.

Techno hardly ever is a "epic break down song", but usually can be much better than this.

Welcome to techno. It might be very repetitive (and sometimes dull).

As a techno guy, I can't say I'm very offended by this track...

its just techno... not really my cup of tea but its not bad either.

and RJT, if you think you can make this in half an hour, i wish u the best of luck... you deffo seem to underestimate the experience and skills it needs to create such powerful sounding productions as dubfire.. simple and minimal but a full sound.

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