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Posted by verndogs on Nov-26-2007 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
it'll still be around 30 Celsius and maybe with humidity as well. It was hot as hell in South Korea and Japan too...any time it's not played in Europe usually the European teams have a hard time. In my opinion the games should be played at night when it's cooler but try telling that to FIFA.


avg temps in South Africa during june and july seem to be in the low to mid 20s, but then again you never know with global warming how it'll be in 2010


Posted by tubby on Nov-26-2007 20:10:

temps will be perfect for football in winter in SA, though it might get a bit vcold for slome fans for the evening games.
will be funny to see if any goalkeepers can kick the length of the field at the higher altitudes (Joburg or pretoria), in ruggbyu it's not uncommon to see field goals from 60 yards at altitude.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Nov-26-2007 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
LOL we play real football here in Texas in 40 Celsius. If the euro teams can't sack up and deal with the heat they deserve to lose.



real football eh? You mean the game where there's actually maybe 12 minutes of ACTUAL game play?

The rest of the world outside the USA (yes there IS one!) calls "soccer" football and looks down their nose at your "football". Why is it called football anyway? Only the kicker and punter actually kick the ball....

idiot.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-27-2007 08:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
You might think that we don't run that much in real football but the reality is that people die every year from running too much in the heat during two a day summer practices.

And what about the cross country kids who run at least 10 miles not 10 km every day in the same weather?

If you're a pro soccer player and you can't run 10km in 40C you deserve to lose.

Here is that article I was talking about. And I agree with you wind speed is a bunch of bullshit. Just like the heat.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sp...ticle708592.ece


For Christs sake, stop calling it "real football"

Anyway...I would have preferred to avoid England as they will be looking for revenge but never mind. Should make it interesting.

No group of death this time, though I can see a couple of possible surprises.


Posted by Zild on Nov-27-2007 09:53:

I'm not the idiot. An idiot would be someone who takes the bait.
But listen soccer is just a truncation of Association football. So next time you hear the word just replace it in your little head with association football that way you don't get it mixed up with real football.


Anyway back to my real point. People need to STFU about the weather and blaming it for poor performance.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-27-2007 10:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I'm not the idiot. An idiot would be someone who takes the bait.
But listen soccer is just a truncation of Association football. So next time you hear the word just replace it in your little head with association football that way you don't get it mixed up with real football.


Anyway back to my real point. People need to STFU about the weather and blaming it for poor performance.


Notice how the word "football" is in there?

Also, if American Football is real football, why is it called American Football and not Football? Because it came after real football which is soccer you twat.

"Real Football" ffs. Every time you say it it makes my blood boil. You need a good throat punch.


Posted by Zild on Nov-27-2007 11:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Notice how the word "football" is in there?

Also, if American Football is real football, why is it called American Football and not Football? Because it came after real football which is soccer you twat.

"Real Football" ffs. Every time you say it it makes my blood boil. You need a good throat punch.


That is exactly why I say it. If you could keep control over your own emotions and not let something someone else says affect you so much I wouldn't say it.

But seriously american tackle football has preference over association diveball. Therefore it has become the real thing.

Please don't throat punch me. I'll have to run after you for two steps then dive for it like Dida.


Posted by chesco on Nov-27-2007 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I'm not the idiot. An idiot would be someone who takes the bait.
But listen soccer is just a truncation of Association football. So next time you hear the word just replace it in your little head with association football that way you don't get it mixed up with real football.


Anyway back to my real point. People need to STFU about the weather and blaming it for poor performance.


The heat is one of the biggest factors that will affect athletes performance.


Look at the marathon in the greek olympics in 2004. Paula radcliffe was one of the favourites and even she dropped out due to heat exhaustion.

It's a fact that playing in high temperatures when your not used to it (spanish, italian, english, german football is all played thru the winter months) will seriously affect your ability to perform for the duration of a football match.


Posted by Zild on Nov-27-2007 12:35:

Heat is a factor but it is a factor for everyone. Like I said here people die every year from practicing in the 40C heat. It isn't uncommon for players to have to be given IV fluids after games. But I don't think it is a deciding factor for a game, and I really don't think it is going to be close to that hot during the WC.


Posted by denys envy on Nov-27-2007 14:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Heat is a factor but it is a factor for everyone. Like I said here people die every year from practicing in the 40C heat. It isn't uncommon for players to have to be given IV fluids after games. But I don't think it is a deciding factor for a game, and I really don't think it is going to be close to that hot during the WC.


people die in your "real football" because half the line is overweight. they never train properly, and guzzle beers after practices games. the shape of non-professional american athletes is atrocious. now i'm not saying everyone, but half these fat fucks are just genetic monstrocities left over from slavery.

a 6' 7" 340 lbs black man with a poor heart history in his family shouldn't wonder why he just collapsed in 90 *F humid weather.


Posted by King Ecnal on Nov-27-2007 17:13:

you all are retards...

end of discussion


Posted by tubby on Nov-27-2007 21:49:

how the hell did a discussion on a world cup in winter end up being about the heat?
go to joburg in july and enjoy the cold, or capetown and wait for a nice breeze off the atlantic.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Nov-27-2007 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
That is exactly why I say it. If you could keep control over your own emotions and not let something someone else says affect you so much I wouldn't say it.

But seriously american tackle football has preference over association diveball. Therefore it has become the real thing.

Please don't throat punch me. I'll have to run after you for two steps then dive for it like Dida.


how exactly does it have preference? Nobody gives a fuck about the NFL outside the United States and Canada. Besides, "Amercain Football" is just a rip off of rugby anyway...especially in the days before the advent of the forward pass. American Football is a good game in its own right, but for an American to call it the "real" football is like an American trying to tell an Englishman that they speak "real English".

You are beyond clueless.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Nov-27-2007 23:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Heat is a factor but it is a factor for everyone. Like I said here people die every year from practicing in the 40C heat. It isn't uncommon for players to have to be given IV fluids after games. But I don't think it is a deciding factor for a game, and I really don't think it is going to be close to that hot during the WC.


so maybe they should practice when the humidity and sun go down...say, at 7pm? If practicing in such unbearable heat makes the game more "manly", then by all means, believe that if you want. I'd rather play in the evening and not risk death myself.


Posted by noikeee on Nov-28-2007 01:23:

This is getting srsly retarded (anyway, I wonder if Zild's intention here was to troll?). Who gives a flying fuck which sport is the "hardest" or "runs more" or "can stand more heat". Go watch your football, we'll watch ours, kthx.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-28-2007 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
so maybe they should practice when the humidity and sun go down...say, at 7pm? If practicing in such unbearable heat makes the game more "manly", then by all means, believe that if you want. I'd rather play in the evening and not risk death myself.


It's also a common American coaching trick to not allow players to drink water during practice, in any sport.

This is just fucked up and I can proudly say that I've been a big part in removing such coaches from many positions in Basketball, here in Australia. It's one of the worst coaching methods around.

And they wonder why they collapse and die in such heat


Posted by nchs09 on Nov-28-2007 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I'm not the idiot. An idiot would be someone who takes the bait.
But listen soccer is just a truncation of Association football. So next time you hear the word just replace it in your little head with association football that way you don't get it mixed up with real football.


Anyway back to my real point. People need to STFU about the weather and blaming it for poor performance.
hahaha

at first i was disappointed because the only groups shown are the european ones

but then i had epic lulz at this gimp named zild


Posted by Zild on Dec-03-2007 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
hahaha

at first i was disappointed because the only groups shown are the european ones

but then i had epic lulz at this gimp named zild


That is the exact reason I trolled everyone. Glad I could bring you some lulz.


Posted by nettwerk on Dec-04-2007 23:40:

Getting back on-topic:

Sweden and Denmark? Hmm... I'm not that happy. Let's see who'll be our next manager, and then, I'll decide what to think of the group.


Posted by denys envy on Dec-05-2007 14:24:

Russia "should" finish second in their group. Liechtenstein & Azerbaijan are minnows, finishing bottom of their respective Euro groups. Wales can be trouble but are no better than Russia - we'll have to worry about the away leg as usual. Finland is right across the border - we should get a decent home contingent to show up to the away leg and maybe squeeze out a tie... And then there's Germany, enough said - Germany fans should start booking their hotels for SA.


Posted by Dervish on Dec-05-2007 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
You might think that we don't run that much in real football but the reality is that people die every year from running too much in the heat during two a day summer practices.




He explains it all.

But as for the groups. Seriously Scotland will have issues with ANY of the teams in our group. Hopefully so do they with each other.

Then maybe our normal strength at home will pull us though. But I expect us to drop points right and left away from home.


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