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Originally posted by bas Sockballs are a great way to stretch your socks out. Morans!

that only happens to my cheap socks... you hobo.

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Originally posted by l�cid that only happens to my cheap socks... you hobo.

wool socks do more of it. avoid them like the plague, unless you are 75.

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Originally posted by l�cid that only happens to my cheap socks... you hobo.

Psh...whateves...hippy

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Originally posted by inconspicuous wool socks do more of it. avoid them like the plague, unless you are 75.

really? my merino wool hiking socks keep their shape pretty good.

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Originally posted by l�cid really? my merino wool hiking socks keep their shape pretty good.

nylon & spandex fo lyfe!

socks an 'ah' sound and sucks has an 'uh' sound.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/l...art/chart.shtml

If you go to that link and go to the third one under the short sounds category that looks like an upside down 'v' you will hear the sucks sounds.

If you go to the forth one under short sounds that looks like a backwards 'a' you will hear the sock sound.


It is a very common error if English isn't your first language.

Nachos, does the vowel you use both for "socks" and "sucks" exist in Spanish? What vowel do you think it is?

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Originally posted by klingklang77 socks an 'ah' sound

Just wondering, do "cot" and "caught" sound the same to you?

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Originally posted by mezzir where's lira, i want more linguisticly annoying sentences that are technically correct

Here are some interesting ones

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Originally posted by Lira Nachos, does the vowel you use both for "socks" and "sucks" exist in Spanish? What vowel do you think it is? Just wondering, do "cot" and "caught" sound the same to you? Here are some interesting ones Off-topic: I'm thinking of building a "TA Accent Database". I'm going to post the details later this week, but I wonder whetherd you guys like to take part in this "experiment"... what do you say?

hah judging by the color of that link, i've been there today

i'd totally participate btw

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Originally posted by l�cid that only happens to my cheap socks... you hobo.

Hobos don't wear socks. This post makes no sense.

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Originally posted by Lira Just wondering, do "cot" and "caught" sound the same to you?

Nope. cot- has an 'ah' sound to me and caught has an 'aw' sound to me. Why do you ask?

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Originally posted by klingklang77 Nope. cot- has an 'ah' sound to me and caught has an 'aw' sound to me. Why do you ask?

and Lisa... I have said to you on multipule occoasions how strong your Long Island accent is...

im sure what you think of "ah" is very different than what my "ah" is.. I do think the way you wrote it here is correct, but I can hear you saying it and it'll sound way way different than if i did...

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Originally posted by Zewad and Lisa... I have said to you on multipule occoasions how strong your Long Island accent is... im sure what you think of "ah" is very different than what my "ah" is.. I do think the way you wrote it here is correct, but I can hear you saying it and it'll sound way way different than if i did...

Perhaps. My accent isn't that bad anymore . I promise you it has changed.

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Originally posted by klingklang77 Nope. cot- has an 'ah' sound to me and caught has an 'aw' sound to me. Why do you ask?

Because that's apparently common in the US (except for a few regions), and I found your description interesting, since the sound you used to describe the "o" in "cot" is exactly the same vowel I'd use to describe the "ar" sound in "cart" [ɑː]. I know that happens in cities where the cot-caught merger is common, but I thought you'd pronounce the word "cot" the same way I do (with an [ɒ]).

I speak a bastardised variety of British English, by the way

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Originally posted by Lira Because that's apparently common in the US (except for a few regions), and I found your description interesting, since the sound you used to describe the "o" in "cot" is exactly the same vowel I'd use to describe the "ar" sound in "cart" [ɑː]. I know that happens in cities where the cot-caught merger is common, but I thought you'd pronounce the word "cot" the same way I do (with an [ɒ]). I speak a bastardised variety of British English, by the way

With cart I pronounce the 'r'. Usually in AmEn we don't follow the British rule of silent 'r' after a vowel. I do think that vowel sound in cart and cot are the same, if you don't think about that 'r' sound in cart. I hope that makes sense. I hate teaching pronunciation in a British English speaking country and most of the materials are British English. It always spins my head around when I have to think about how to teach it and then I realise I can't model it, so I can't teach it very well.

I think I am confused now... lol.

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Originally posted by klingklang77 With cart I pronounce the 'r'. Usually in AmEn we don't follow the British rule of silent 'r' after a vowel. I do think that vowel sound in cart and cot are the same, if you don't think about that 'r' sound in cart. I hope that makes sense.

Yes, it does, and it's actually enlightening.

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Originally posted by klingklang77 I hate teaching pronunciation in a British English speaking country and most of the materials are British English. It always spins my head around when I have to think about how to teach it and then I realise I can't model it, so I can't teach it very well.

As an American, what else do you find confusing? Regionalisms, perhaps?

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Originally posted by klingklang77 I think I am confused now... lol.

I think I am confusing now...

ps.: Regarding that link you posted, "man" and "men" sound the same to me

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Originally posted by Lira As an American, what else do you find confusing? Regionalisms, perhaps? ps.: Regarding that link you posted, "man" and "men" sound the same to me

I have a better link on my other computer. Men and man confuse people too.

I think I find the differences between BrEN and AmEN confusing. For example the 'a' sounds (can't in BrEn vs. AmEn). I also get confused with the 'or' sound (I wish I had the fonts for the symbols). For example, saw and cork have the same vowel sounds, but to me they sound different. I know they are different and I can understand how they sound different, but when I teach it some of them aren't aware of both sounds and the students get confused.

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