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Posted by ChemEnhanced on Dec-27-2007 19:34:

Since I really can't see how the life or death of Benazir Butto will affect me this thread is pointless in my humble opinion.

Posted by d-miurge on Dec-27-2007 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Since I really can't see how the life or death of Benazir Butto will affect me this thread is pointless in my humble opinion.

�Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.�

Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-27-2007 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Since I really can't see how the life or death of Benazir Butto will affect me this thread is pointless in my humble opinion.

you usually arent this fucking retarded

R.I.P.

Posted by idoru on Dec-27-2007 20:12:

I found out about this while channel-flipping this morning. All of the news channels had it as breaking news except *gasp* FOX! Their "breaking news" was that some neighbor had found some photos and a note that had Stacy Peterson's name or something. Great job as always.

Posted by tubularbills on Dec-27-2007 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I found out about this while channel-flipping this morning. All of the news channels had it as breaking news except *gasp* FOX! Their "breaking news" was that some neighbor had found some photos and a note that had Stacy Peterson's name or something. Great job as always.

i hate them so much

Posted by emc^2 on Dec-27-2007 20:36:

I said it before and said it again... I haven't checked fark.com yet, but I bet the tag next to the headline is "obvious" (not "sad"). It was not a question of "if", it was a question of "when".

She knew the risks and well... whatcha gonna do. It sucks and it's bad... but I don't think any politician is honest, unselfish, and straight-arrow. They are all EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM are in it for a personal gain - be it monetary or simply to be remembered and not just one of the gray billions of people on this planet.

Well, she made history... shame it had a sad ending but she knew what she was facing and getting into. I know it sounds cold but I really don't feel anything more than sympathy and regret at loss of human lives. The cynic in me wouldn't allow anything more than that.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Dec-27-2007 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
you usually arent this fucking retarded

R.I.P.

no usually I'm not. Don't get me wrong....it is a huge set back and loss for Pakistan.

Posted by StanVoid on Dec-27-2007 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
no usually I'm not. Don't get me wrong....it is a huge set back and loss for Pakistan.

it's a set back for the world, actually. Oil already shot up in price today because of this and the stocks are down, so the very economy of your homeland will suffer. But hey - that doesn't affect you either huh?

Posted by wizniz on Dec-27-2007 21:50:

yea i was pissed off this morning cuz i have food poisoning and when i heard about this i gave up on having a life today and slept til now.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-27-2007 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
no usually I'm not. Don't get me wrong....it is a huge set back and loss for Pakistan.

the effects of this will be felt.. maybe not directly, but to say that whats going on in pakistan isnt affecting your life isn't just ignorant, its wrong...

Posted by Ian on Dec-27-2007 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
the effects of this will be felt.. maybe not directly, but to say that whats going on in pakistan isnt affecting your life isn't just ignorant, its wrong...

it's definitely influencing people here, we have a huge community of pakistanis and it's on the news daily. Either way, with them being such a dangerous and volatile country, who knows what will happen, except it won't be good.

Posted by JustinMead on Dec-27-2007 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by d-miurge
�Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.�

Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-27-2007 22:06:

i think it will take a little longer for the suburban community outside toronto to feel the effects, but i agree with you completely

Posted by BTG on Dec-27-2007 22:35:

holy shit i heard on the news driving in to work today.

that shit is insane.

apparently gas prices are going up 3 cents because of this? i dont understand.

anyway, pretty crazy shit today.

Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-27-2007 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
holy shit i heard on the news driving in to work today.

that shit is insane.

apparently gas prices are going up 3 cents because of this? i dont understand.

its ok no one expects you to

Posted by Ian on Dec-27-2007 22:44:

so do we know who actually did it ? I see Al Queada are being blamed by most english media outlets.

Posted by BTG on Dec-27-2007 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
its ok no one expects you to

can you explain it to me?

Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-27-2007 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
can you explain it to me?

war risk raises supply cost

Posted by Krypton on Dec-27-2007 22:51:

Really sad day for Pakistan.

It's just like when JFK and his brother were assassinated in the 1960's here in the USA. But they have Al-Qaida using their territory as home base #1, the situation there is quite volatile, and sure to affect the rest of the world...

Posted by d-miurge on Dec-27-2007 22:52:

Posted by UmmiE on Dec-27-2007 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
so do we know who actually did it ? I see Al Queada are being blamed by most english media outlets.

They are the sole cause for it.....Because they were against her going along the Bush Administration.

They want a political party which is based on Hardcore Taliban like style Govt in Pakistan which strictly cuts off USA from Pakistan.They knew that if the elections went ahead as planned then Benazir would win and they would miss any or whatever chance they have of establishing a Strict hardcore taliban like Goverment.

Posted by Krypton on Dec-27-2007 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
can you explain it to me?

Risk is priced in the markets. Political instability increases the risk in investing in oil markets, especially instability in the Middle East. When there is elevated risk, investors require a higher rate of return to compensate them for the risk they take on in investing. So, prices rise to satisfy the "risk premium" investors want for their risk.

Risk and their premiums have absolutely nothing to do with supply or demand, but is a function of human psychology. It really boggles my mind. About 30% of current oil prices are PURELY risk premiums investors require because of instability in Nigeria, Iran, Iraq, and now Pakistan.

It just goes to show; the law of supply and demand does not rule the market all the time.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Dec-27-2007 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by StanVoid
it's a set back for the world, actually. Oil already shot up in price today because of this and the stocks are down, so the very economy of your homeland will suffer. But hey - that doesn't affect you either huh?

short term raise in oil prices is not a true affect on anyone.....it is a sad day yes.....Pakistan is in chaos now. This is all short term affects but politics is politics and someone will step up and take over where she left off.

Posted by nchs09 on Dec-27-2007 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
short term raise in oil prices is not a true affect on anyone.....it is a sad day yes.....Pakistan is in chaos now. This is all short term affects but politics is politics and someone will step up and take over where she left off.
So you are saying the value is in her ideas and not her life itself? I guess for you life is cheap?

Posted by Clovis on Dec-27-2007 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I see Al Queada are being blamed by most english media outlets.

Wow didn't see that coming!

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