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Like Eugene said, english prounouncing doesnt match the spelling. This is caused by having a long history of written material - while the pronouning changes quickly, spelling doesnt change all that quickly. Most US people here have read canterbury tales in school - it was written in the 14th century..

This is the reason why people who learn it from books, can usually spell it a bit better than the people who learn it by talking.

(however, this is shared by a lot of languages - depending on when it the syntax and grammar were laid down. There are also languages like chinese where spelling doesnt have anything to do with pronouncing.. )

i knwo i can spell properly quite easily, but the fact of the matter is most fot eh tiem i cant be arsed, i have some dodgy nerve problem which means my fingers just press the worng keys for no reason, i suppose i cant write neither, oh yeh and i dont exactly talk proper english hehe

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Originally posted by apri_peel and i think those ppl should be ashamed of themselves. it doesnt take that much longer to spell out the whole word.

Uhhh.. ppl? *cough*

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR i knwo i can spell properly quite easily, but the fact of the matter is most fot eh tiem i cant be arsed, i have some dodgy nerve problem which means my fingers just press the worng keys for no reason, i suppose i cant write neither, oh yeh and i dont exactly talk proper english hehe

Ste, you have what you call 'SAUSAGE FINGER TYPING'. You hit about three keys everytime you need to hit one. I find it funny though

Why should ppl type correctly? It's only typing. These days we use TEXT all the time, so we're bount to use SHORT TEXT cos we can't be arsed typing full words, we use abreviations and why not?

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Originally posted by lMIlk

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It's not really a question of typing as much as accuracy of grammar and language overall. If you've just written a huge post, you're not going to bother reading it over just to correct typing mistakes, it's not a school paper.
Broken english can be cute, but not by a person whose first language is English!

this one pisses me off the most: what in the freaking hell is an ARSE???? is that like an Irish version of an "ass"? well, then you'd have to use "foocking" too....

How about:

know / now

definitely / definately

and other "big" words.....I mean jeezz.....at what age do they stop teaching you people to spell?
On the other hand, I know A LOT of Dutch people that can't spell correctly..and you know what bothers me? Since I speak/write so much in English I keep forgetting the Dutch sayings and I mix them up Or I just know what to say in Enlgish but I forgot the Dutch word for it

What a blast

i wud say im 1 of the worst 4 it... but i only do it becoz its quicker... plus alot of the time its colloquial slang, just u guys dont know it as that

for instance, how many people get wot i mean when i say "av a gud un!"?

we english have a right to write in slang!

one thing that is scary is the growing use of english slang by canadians... not that im complaining becoz its better than yank slang

and arse is the BRITISH version of ass. ass is a shit word. arse flows better im gonna start a petetion to ban the use of ass and replace it with arse

Well I'm a trained journalist and I work in data entry. So I write professionally and can sustain typing at 80+ words per minute for long periods.

But I still throw in all the net shorthand .. ur, u, etc

That's mainly because I'm lazy
But if I'm trying to make a point or an intelligent post I'll dot all the I's and cross all the T's
Doesn't stop me throwing smilies in everywhere though

Irish slang Arse sounds better then Ass, anyway whats wrong with the way Irish people speak?

It's not only English, though...

The level of writing skills is dropping all the time in EVERY language...

The more they teach, the less we learn...

you guys say that it doesnt really matter if you cant type properly as long as you can speak it, you're wrong!!
maybe in high school you dont really have to type so much and writing stuff by hand is different so we tend to spell words more correctly. but wait till you get into college or into workforce where you will have to type papers, reports, etc ALL THE TIME, you cant afford to even put 'to' when you were supposed to use 'too'
lots of people don't even know the difference between the two

another HUGE HUGE mistake english speaking people make is write 'must of, should of'. those two may sound like there's an 'of' but its 'have'. it supposed to be 'must have, should have'

as for effect/affect those two are emphisized in high school english 12. along with patients/patience and some other words i dont remember

i agree with mystery, level of many languages is dropping. if any of you speak french here and have ever seen a quebec person type in chat rooms, you'll know what im talking about. dont know if thats the case for french and dutch tho

btw, gonna and wanna are accepted in the dictionary now

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Originally posted by apri_peel ...as for effect/affect those two are emphisized in high school english 12... ...you'll know what im talking about. btw, gonna and wanna...

i'm not trying to make fun of you, but somehow i noticed there are a LOT of spelling mistakes in this thread by people who are complaining about the spelling... (not saying that you're complaining either). weird!

as long as we're on the subject of bashing english, i want to add my .02.

i might be wrong, but why the hell are there so many words that mortal people have never ever heard before? why doesn't anyone in my Junior English class know what "penchant" or "doggerel" mean? and those are SAT words, people from the College Board say you're supposed know them! i mean, why would you ever use "gratuitous" instead of "unnecessary" or "pointless", uless you're on my frisbee team and you're trying to sound intelligent?

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Originally posted by tu_face and arse is the BRITISH version of ass. ass is a shit word. arse flows better im gonna start a petetion to ban the use of ass and replace it with arse

Arse sounds so dorky, ass flows way better.

Nah Arse is a lot better, Ass sounds gimpish.

Why when the British speak, they don't CLEARLY pronounce the sound that the letter "R" makes in words? I mean in words like "Car", "Arse", "Four", etc. When they say it, it sounds like they're saying "Ca", "Ass", "Foo", etc. In other words, it's like there's NO "R" sound IN it! Is the letter "R" in those words a SILENT letter like in the words "Know", "Kneel", etc.?

I type the way I talk, and if its too much effort to put a misspelt word into context, then shame on you

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan Nah Arse is a lot better, Ass sounds gimpish.

i have to disagree with u
Ass sounds a lot better
Arse is like... i don't know... like u say damn... and not like u r acting like a total arse (ass )

Can I also take this opportunity to explain the use of bloody apostrophes!

If something belongs to one person you put the apostrohpe before the S. If it's a group, you put it after the S.

EXAMPLE:

If you are talking about one lass's tits you say "lass's". Or replace "lass" with her name.

If you are talking about the tits of more than one lass you say "girls'". With the apostrophe AFTER the S. That way, people know if you are talking about the girls (as in the group of lasses) tits rather than just one.

I thought that example might be appropriate for some people here.

So here it goes:

The boy's football
This means they are talking about the football owned by the boy.

The boys' football
This means they are talking about the boys, who have a football.

If you don't make this distinction, then we'll never know!!

Geez, I think my 9 year old brother knows this!

Also, what is the deal with so many people typing "teh" instead of "the"?


ONE MORE THING:

Ass sounds shit. Arse makes for a much better put-down. Say these out loud and tell me which sounds better:

"Get off your fucking arse and do something"
"Get off your fucking ass and do something"

or this:

"I'm going to fucking ram a spike up your arse if you do that again"
"I'm going to fucking ram a spike up your ass if you do that again"

Face it, "ass" sounds too South Parkish and childish. Only arseholes say ass

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Originally posted by ali92 Why when the British speak, they don't CLEARLY pronounce the sound that the letter "R" makes in words? I mean in words like "Car", "Arse", "Four", etc. When they say it, it sounds like they're saying "Ca", "Ass", "Foo", etc. In other words, it's like there's NO "R" sound IN it! Is the letter "R" in those words a SILENT letter like in the words "Know", "Kneel", etc.?

I'll answer this one.

All it is is accent.

The American close their 'r's. So when an American says it it sounds like "ahru" but with a tiny little sound on the end. Not quite a U but it's the closest I could think of. Perhaps "ahrr" would be the best way to spell it. Brits say 'r' and it sounds like "aah" but with a low toned A. We don't "close" the R. Well, it's hard to put into words, but it does sound right, to us. We treat R like it's a vowel in a way, unless it starts a word or something.

But listen to people from Liverpool (England). Their R's sound like Ls! They have a programme called Brookside. The rest of us would say "Brookside" but they would say "Blookside". I'm not kidding.

I agree with evil_bastard on this one .. everybody speaks differently, and to chastise someone for their accent is just stupid.

Here in Oz we say "arse" and that's how we write it. Americans write "ass" because that's the way they pronounce it. Just remember that there are no "proper" accents - not better, not worse, just different.

But when I was in LA a few years back, a woman told me I was Aussie because she picked my accent. When I told her that she also had an accent, she looked mystified. I kid you not, she said "oh no no no I just talk normally!"

OMG

well, maybe "arse" sounds better, but it doesn't look better when you type it. dunno, but to me "arse" even sounds stupid. i'd rather use ass.

wow this thread grate lol

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