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Originally posted by kotsy This means nothing to me. I don't see why DVD isn't enough for people.

yeah i would rather wait than rush into buying stuff. i got a upconverting 1080p dvd player works just as good for me i cant tell the diffrence.

whatever my ps2 supports is what ill watch

basic dvds that i already own.

itll be a while before they release all the dicretor cuts, special editions and box sets that i already own on blu ray so for now this has zero effect on my purchases

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Originally posted by MarkT why does this mean the format war is "over"? (I'm honestly asking, since I'm not super current on this topic) Doesn't this just mean that Warner, who currently supports both formats, is now going Blu-Ray as of this summer? Aren't there still other major players on the HD-DVD side, like Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks, etc?

ok check the ammount of titles that WB has, the ammount of exclusive distribution rate to Bluray now just went to 70-30

WB one of the oldest studios with the biggest catalogue going Bluray only...everyone is following. Toshiba already knows it. They are already looking at other things, the HD-DVD project is pretty much going to die. Go on Ebay and see the ammount on HD-DVD players dropping, they are going for not even 100 bux WITH movies.

It is over, trust me, and thank god, now I can just focus on one friggin format.

100bux with movies? Why are you surprised? They were selling them for 100$ brand new with 7 HDDVDs for free.

HDDVD just cost less thats why its the better choice. Image wise both are identical.

Five free HD-DVD's with a purchase of an XBOX 360 or a TOSHIBA HD-DVD player

http://www.xbox.com/en-ca/hardware/...now/default.htm

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Originally posted by Orko How is HD-DVD superior to BlueRay? Sony usually makes pretty good products, but their business actions are just despicable.

too many layers in their corporate structure, they have to fuck up their products with so much bureaucracy. case in point, their mp3 players could have taken off, but b/c they forced wma/atrac codecs, they basically gave the market to apple

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Originally posted by Orko How is HD-DVD superior to BlueRay? Sony usually makes pretty good products, but their business actions are just despicable.

Picture quality wise, HD DVD is better than Blu-ray

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Originally posted by TheDemon Picture quality wise, HD DVD is better than Blu-ray

According to the breakdown on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD , that is just not possible.

They both use the same video codecs and resolutions, but the maximum bitrates for both audio and video are much higher for BD. Unless they screw up the encoding for every disc, BD has the potential to look better than HD-DVD.

The only feature that HD-DVD, specs wise, has a lead in, is the frame rate. HD-DVD can do 30fps (NTSC), while BD does a max of 25, which is the PAL standard. That would certainly be detrimental to the original look of North American TV shows which are then ported to BD.

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Originally posted by Invasionmix From Canada Computers? :P

price? (i'd get two btw)

from www.macrumors.com - supposed to be a 2007 marketshare graph, updated to be color-coded according to studios supporting a particular HD format.

also, funny thing about a press conference by the HD-DVD promo group that was planned at CES that has been cancelled based on the Warner Bros. announcement.

should be just a matter of time now before this goose is cooked.

Actually, Blu-Ray has a LOT of companies behind it. HD DVD only has Toshiba and Microsoft as their major backers. BUT, HD DVD is cheaper to manufacture, and has cheaper players out in the market. And this might swing the porn industry to HD DVD. Whoever wins over porn will probly be the dominant player, which was proven before by VHS over Betamax. Betamax was a better format, just like BluRay is now, but the pron was with them.

And there is definitely a Huge difference between upconverted 480p (Standard DVD) vs 1080p. If you say otherwise, I think you haven't seen it for yourself yet, or weren't using the proper equipment or setting.

Intel is also behind HDDVD in case you forgot.

Sony has too many restrictions on their blu ray licences, for independent studios its a nightmare. Plus HDDVD has no regions, another big plus.

the similarities to the beta vs. vhs battle are hilarious
instead of manufacturers this time its studios

honestly, there is no difference between HD DVD & Blu-Ray. They are virtually identical. I would say that 99% of the consumers wouldn't even be able to tell the difference using their naked eye.


And yes, HD >> DVD. Only people who've never watched anything in HD would say that their is no point in owning an HD format.

I honestly can't even watch SD TV or SD DVD's anymore cause the quality/audio is horrible.

I only watch HDTV (only watch SDTV if I'm forced too) and only watch HD movies, or at worst watch the SD version upconverted on my PS3.

Oh, and Jay,

I have the 360 add-on for HD DVD and the PS3 for Blu-Ray..both are amazing for the price.

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Originally posted by exstasie honestly, there is no difference between HD DVD & Blu-Ray. They are virtually identical. I would say that 99% of the consumers wouldn't even be able to tell the difference using their naked eye. And yes, HD >> DVD. Only people who've never watched anything in HD would say that their is no point in owning an HD format. I honestly can't even watch SD TV or SD DVD's anymore cause the quality/audio is horrible. I only watch HDTV (only watch SDTV if I'm forced too) and only watch HD movies, or at worst watch the SD version upconverted on my PS3. Oh, and Jay, I have the 360 add-on for HD DVD and the PS3 for Blu-Ray..both are amazing for the price.

I am pretty much in the same position you are minus the PS3 of course. The 360 add on was nothing more than a short term solution for me and was pissed that they have never gotten around to having the player play TrueHD tracks. At best too this will do 1080i not that there really is a difference. At least with PS3 though it does just about everything you'd want minimally from a stand alone Bluray player. Another major reason for the better bluray backing.

I think the major reasoning that most studios have gone bluray is because of what it has presently done and what it will be able to do, there is a future flexibility to it which studios and directors like. Just see what Spielberg and Bay have to say. I currently own a Sony BD player S-1 and also getting the Panasonic BD30.

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Originally posted by Ryan1524 Actually, Blu-Ray has a LOT of companies behind it. HD DVD only has Toshiba and Microsoft as their major backers. BUT, HD DVD is cheaper to manufacture, and has cheaper players out in the market. And this might swing the porn industry to HD DVD. Whoever wins over porn will probly be the dominant player, which was proven before by VHS over Betamax. Betamax was a better format, just like BluRay is now, but the pron was with them. And there is definitely a Huge difference between upconverted 480p (Standard DVD) vs 1080p. If you say otherwise, I think you haven't seen it for yourself yet, or weren't using the proper equipment or setting.

yeah it may just go all reverse with the porn industry going HD dvd. I mean HD DVD still has major players such as microsoft and HP,intel etc. and also HD DVD is cheaper , i would rather pay less money on a media format than more until it becomes a standard. But either way the war will only be won by one which will take years

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Originally posted by Pett the similarities to the beta vs. vhs battle are hilarious instead of manufacturers this time its studios

So far in this thread most of the major supporters of HD-DVD have been technology companies, Toshiba, MS, HP, and Intel. That is fine, but in the end they are not the ones putting actual content on the medium.

It should be the studios that battle it out, because they are the ones that have to sell titles, not the tech companies.

If the studios are supporting BD, and the tech companies are supporting HDdvd, then BD will win, because they sell product, not Intel, or Toshiba.

Then again, there's the Conspiracy theory by Michael Bay. He thinks that the whole format war is fueled by M$ in order to create such a confusion and frustration that HD Electronic delivery will be hailed as a saviour once they released it.

This is a third option I'm really hoping pans out. Like I said before, I've really been downloading 90% of my HD content so far. TV shows, movies, etc. There's no need to worry about BD vs HD DVD player when all I need to play any movie is my laptop and VLC. LOL.

I do feel kinda bad for my X360 add-on though. Just sitting there the past couple of months while I'm feeding the TV everything from my external HDD. Maybe I'll buy some classics soon to feed it a bit.

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Originally posted by Ryan1524 I'm feeding the TV everything from my external HDD.

how does this work sir?

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Originally posted by Porky how does this work sir?

I think he is talking about one of those media drives that has HD output, there is a whole bunch of companies that do them now.one of them is by this company called Mediagate.

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