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Posted by The_G0dfather on Jan-28-2008 22:09:

Every morning, upon arrival, the school soundsystem should be playing Nu NRG at Orgasmatron


Posted by wotyzoid on Jan-29-2008 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
In college, I had an art teacher who would play all this annoying free jazz during drawing sessions. What made it all the more ironic was that my teacher was a minimal producer (this was back in 2000, years before minimal became so massive and commercialized) on a first name basis with Richie Hawtin. I asked him to play some of his stuff but he was like "I don't think it'll be everyone's cup of tea". I would've rather minimal than free jazz :P

The teacher's name was Mike Parker, name ring a bell to any of you minimal fans?


True story? That's really cool.


Posted by mysticwave on Jan-29-2008 01:03:

Response to Rebel9

LOL! Are you sure you are a teacher? As a teacher myself I know that that kind of pedagogical methods would never pass through here. You would simply disqualify yourself as a teacher and get rejected instantly. Also I make no connection whatsoever between the stuff you educate and the music. And third a teacher is responsible of being objective in his education. Pushing your own taste of music on them is not very objective.

In response to the questions presented by Rebel9

Are you sure I am a teacher? � 4 yrs undergrad, 1 yr education degree, 1 graduate work, yrs 8+ educational positions including youth at risk, children with autism, teaching in Ghana, outdoor education, conventional education classrooms� pass that question with flying colours!

Disqualify as a teacher and get rejected instantly � I�m high skeptical of this idea however unlike you I shall not base comments on ignorance or judge the content of your character. If this is the educational system that you teach in, I have pity for you


No connection with education and music � we teach material that students will question and ponder. We encourage critical consumers of material. For example, reading a text and understanding biased opinions and then providing an opinion based upon evidence � I teach skills not limited to knowledge of the curriculum - the titles of the songs were to get them thinking

Teacher being objective � this of course I complete agree � the material I teach is always objective � I would never impose personal believes � not sure how you equate using creative teaching methods with pushing my musical tastes - they are not required to enjoy the music � just make greater connections.

As a fellow educator I�m must say I�m slightly disappointed with your response. You make some legitimate points however you come across as condescending. I am surprised that you cannot understand the value of this teaching method. I would of course be interested in reading your response, particularly your perspective of what an educational experience should be.

Your time and thoughts are of course appreciated


Posted by RebeL9 on Jan-29-2008 09:36:

the reason why I was critical was the way you presented your education. to start a lesson with a track called Questions must be asked and then finish with another one which is called Answers makes no sense. Especially since both are EDM tunes and not some tunes where you take notice of the vocals. I would be surprised to see if any of your students made the connection.
It's like playing two totally random tunes and ask the students "did you make the connection?". How on earth can that help to make a logical connection in their education?
Note that I have nothing against music being played in the classroom.
I myself have had historical classes and used music as a pedagogical tool to shape the presentation better. And it worked great.
But I fail to see how your students would make a connection between the tunes, two tunes that apart from their titles (which I suppose the students dont even know) have nothing in common.


Posted by trewqy on Jan-29-2008 09:55:

They must start with the basics.Start of with Sandstorm. Choon.


Posted by ToxicGreenWaste on Jan-29-2008 10:09:

Yes america, these are your teachers. In this case canada, but what's the difference.


Posted by TheVrk on Jan-29-2008 11:39:

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Originally posted by ToxicGreenWaste
Yes america, these are your teachers. In this case canada, but what's the difference.

MAJOR differences...u obv havent been to both countries, so i dont blame you for ur opinion


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Jan-29-2008 13:39:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
True story? That's really cool.


Yup, very true... Check out the Discogs page of the artist... I went to SUNY Buffalo for college.


Posted by The_G0dfather on Jan-29-2008 14:02:

No way you could do that over here, never ever ever. Except during actual music classes.


Posted by ToxicGreenWaste on Jan-29-2008 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
MAJOR differences...u obv havent been to both countries, so i dont blame you for ur opinion


I've been to british columbia and alberta multiple times.


Posted by MaxC on Jan-30-2008 03:54:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Teaching with Trance

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
I see the hippy's ways have rubbed off on you...

In what sense? Openmindedness?


Posted by HaeD on Jan-30-2008 04:12:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Teaching with Trance

quote:
Originally posted by MaxC
In what sense? Openmindedness?


being openminded in front of stupidity isn't a quality


Posted by MaxC on Jan-30-2008 23:26:

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quote:
Originally posted by HaeD
being openminded in front of stupidity isn't a quality

Stupidity is a subjective term. Apparently so is the word "quality", based on your usage . How many phenomena do you suppose have been labeled "stupid" at one point in history, only to be embraced in years to come? I'm not saying this issue necessarily qualifies, but let's stop and think a moment before branding something as stupid so you can forego the chore of rational arguement.


Posted by HaeD on Jan-31-2008 02:03:

well ask ur parent what they think about their hippy days.


Posted by hkaliher on Jan-31-2008 02:28:

thank you for bringing in the wave of the future by teaching with chance
i hope my son can learn that way some day...



no wonder american education is so damn bad


Posted by justin on Jan-31-2008 02:32:

It wouldn't shock me to have a bunch of blank faces staring at me if I were to put on some trance. It would definitely depend on the age level, of course. Young children who watch lots of those new shool cartoons are accustimmed to cartoon theme songs like Pokemon> Some with which structure arn't so different from really cheese Euro Dance from like 2001. David Forbes doesn't qualify. Try some Ayumi Hamasaki, or other recent pop artist remixes. Eventually they'll convert.


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