Steve Angello's Antipiracy Statement

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Posted by 7-4-7 on Jan-27-2008 21:57:

he should download a Sven Vath set and learn a little and quit whining.

Posted by terrytutone on Jan-27-2008 22:01:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
he should download a Sven Vath set and learn a little and quit whining.

whats he gonna learn? how to be the king of cheese, only pertaining to a different genre. understand this, angello=vath=cox=tiesto.

Posted by I_Am_Vince on Jan-27-2008 22:03:

Meh, without downloading and online file sharing, none of those small labels would get any recognition, no one would go out pay $15 for a vinyl and check to see if it's good. It would be a lot more convenient for me to download the song, listen to it, if I really like it I would go to Beatport and buy it. But if they're songs that have Territory Restrictions or are not released yet, then I will keep the pirated song I have.

The internet and online file sharing is basically a free promotional tool to get recognition for small labels or producers with no labels at all.

Posted by The Highroller on Jan-27-2008 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by terrytutone
alrigh fine then. fans of house music are just especially hypocritical. your friends of top 40 probably arent on message boards or out in clubs declaring their love for a culture that they do nothing but take from.

Your comments in this thread unfairly generalize and criticize house music fans. What are you basing all of these accusations on?

I spend most of my disposable income on dance music related purchases. Your example of "fans wanting comps" is extremely stupid, because if I'm given a comp, sure I'll take it. Why would I refuse it? But I don't expect comps, nor none of the friends that I party with.

Posted by terrytutone on Jan-27-2008 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Your comments in this thread unfairly generalize and criticize house music fans. What are you basing all of these accusations on?

I spend most of my disposable income on dance music related purchases. Your example of "fans wanting comps" is extremely stupid, because if I'm given a comp, sure I'll take it. Why would I refuse it? But I don't expect comps, nor none of the friends that I party with.

there are always exceptions, of course.

Posted by 7-4-7 on Jan-27-2008 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by terrytutone
whats he gonna learn? how to be the king of cheese, only pertaining to a different genre. understand this, angello=vath=cox=tiesto.

I disagree with all of this, but unfortunately you stopped making sense after the first comma.

But if in all that nonsense math and unnecessary use of the word "pertaining" you were attempting to say that Vath is cheesy then, I have no interest in arguing that point, you might find far more people who would disagree with you on that one.

Posted by kotsy on Jan-27-2008 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller

I'm the same.
Everytime I go out I try to get on the guestlist to make the night that much cheaper. If it doesn't work out I'll still go. It's like anything else. If I'm looking for a new DVD or whatever.. I'll usually see what place has it cheapest.

Posted by terrytutone on Jan-27-2008 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
you might find far more people who would disagree with you on that one.

perhaps. but id probably find more who would agree.

Posted by 7-4-7 on Jan-27-2008 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by terrytutone
perhaps. but id probably find more who would agree.

then don't say perhaps, it means you agree with me.

Posted by WillyWonka on Jan-27-2008 22:20:

Women!

Posted by terrytutone on Jan-27-2008 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
then don't say perhaps, it means you agree with me.

i do agree with you. im sure there are plenty of folks who would argue with me because they are just as deluded as yourself and have no idea that sven vath is the tiesto of techno.

Posted by 7-4-7 on Jan-27-2008 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by terrytutone
i do agree with you. im sure there are plenty of folks who would argue with me because they are just as deluded as yourself and have no idea that sven vath is the tiesto of techno.

yawn.

This is a difference of opinion, however you might want to look at a better approach.

Posted by TheNeonAlien on Jan-28-2008 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by basilisk
Mutate and survive.

cant.

Posted by Dave Akermanis on Jan-28-2008 01:16:

Re: Steve Angello's Antipiracy Statement

quote:
why can�t people just go to itunes , beatport m juno , djdownload or any other mp3 store and just buy a track ?

People I know with radio shows have bought his shit legally and played it in mixed sets and he gets just as pissed. I don't agree with piracy because, yea, I would be pissed if people were stealing my music too... but when youre threatening people who are playing your music on internet & fm radio that's a little much...

Posted by Skipper on Jan-28-2008 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by electro funk
he's swedish man.....lets see you spell proper in swedish

Seriously.

I'm with the guy. It drives me nuts when people refuse to pay for tracks.

Posted by release records on Jan-28-2008 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
Meh, without downloading and online file sharing, none of those small labels would get any recognition, no one would go out pay $15 for a vinyl and check to see if it's good. It would be a lot more convenient for me to download the song, listen to it, if I really like it I would go to Beatport and buy it. But if they're songs that have Territory Restrictions or are not released yet, then I will keep the pirated song I have.

The internet and online file sharing is basically a free promotional tool to get recognition for small labels or producers with no labels at all.

someone sent me this link & its painful to read thru it...theres so many things wrong with this thread, but if i had to single one piece out, this is it.

u have no clue what youre talking about (but dont worry, cause youre not alone in this thread).

jerome @ release

Posted by millzy on Jan-28-2008 01:47:

From episode of south park downloading music is wrong but this really has some truth to it. They work hard people download some of their music but alot of people also come out to their shows.

This month he was hoping to have a gold-plated
shark tank bar installed right next
to the pool, but thanks to people downloading
his music for free, he must now wait
a few months before he can afford it.
Come. There's more. Here's Britney
Spears' private jet. Notice anything?
Britney used to have a Gulfstream IV.
Now she's had to sell it and get a Gulfstream
III because people like you chose to
download her music for free. The Gulfstream
III doesn't even have a remote control
for its surround-sound DVD system. Still
think downloading music for free is
no big deal?

Man must learn to think of these horrible
outcomes before he acts selfishly or
else... I fear... recording artists
will be forever doomed to a life of
only semi-luxury.

He beat us. Because all this time we've
been so caught up with how to protect
our music that we forgot to just play.

LARS
But why play if we're not gonna make millions of dollars.

KYLE
Because that's what real artists do.
People are always gonna find a way to
copy our music and swap it for free.
If we're real musicians, then we should
just play and be stoked that so many
people are listening.

STAN
Beside, maybe our sound would have
gotten downloaded for free, but if they
were good songs then people still would
have bought tickets to see our band in concert.

Posted by iant56 on Jan-28-2008 02:10:

vad skulle Teisto g�r?

Posted by junkie_val on Jan-28-2008 02:26:

i usually stay out of threads like this, but....

i agree with him and i am shocked to hear these kind of responses. do you think tracks just make themselves? do you think there is no cost to making music? do you think a studio just magically appears with loads of free gear?

i spend alot of time and money in the studio and to see people respond in such a negative way hurts. i know he kinda went off the deep end a little with his post, but rightfully so he's pissed.

val

Posted by Skipper on Jan-28-2008 02:52:

Nothing wrong with playing promos, as jon was talking about, but it's when friends or fellow DJs share or (worse) post promos online for people they weren't intended for that is so not cool. Before you share promos with anyone, you should always know whether the artist is intending for it to be shared like that. I have seen several well known DJs seriously restrict distribution of promos because it will cannibalize sales once it is properly released.

I don't get too many promos, not ones that I would play out anyways, so when I get one that I really like I make sure to pay for it when it is released.

Posted by Vogon on Jan-28-2008 03:15:

I guess that is the double edge sword of the internet.
On the one hand, people can produce music anywhere in the world and make it available to people outside their local record store.

On the other hand, the internet allows for people to pirate digital media without paying for it.

As for playing someones productions at a club.
I think that as long people say "Hey thats Jon Jon's remix of Motorcycle" being played in Paris where he dows not spin or open up a record store, he should be happy that he gets credit for the remix, and may inspire people to buy a copy.

The internet opens new doors to artists, and many have found a way to benifit from it.

Posted by release records on Jan-28-2008 03:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Nothing wrong with playing promos, as jon was talking about, but it's when friends or fellow DJs share or (worse) post promos online for people they weren't intended for that is so not cool. Before you share promos with anyone, you should always know whether the artist is intending for it to be shared like that. I have seen several well known DJs seriously restrict distribution of promos because it will cannibalize sales once it is properly released.

I don't get too many promos, not ones that I would play out anyways, so when I get one that I really like I make sure to pay for it when it is released.

there is something wrong with playing promos...theres something wrong with playing them if you were not sent them thru legitimate channels.

trolling thru soulseek, other sites or having people (who also shouldnt promos) IM them to u is one of the main things that is helping kill the dance music industry.

the sad reality is, in most cases, unreleased music has become a currency to trade with other promo hungry vultures.

jerome @ release

Posted by millzy on Jan-28-2008 04:31:

Its kinda funny we all know its wrong but i bet almost every single person on this thread has downloaded songs used pirated software watched a burned movie. As for promos then isnt the problem the industry if you are sending it to only djs they must be ones send it out no?

Posted by DigitalMP on Jan-28-2008 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
wow tone down buddy

too much swearing AND spelling mistakes
could this be fake?

You're right, it must be fake. Certainly, any legitimate house DJ would have flawless spelling and grammar.

Posted by geroin on Jan-28-2008 04:51:

There is a benefit in free music as well and you cannot deny it, track/artist promotion which then opens up more opportunities for club bookings which is $$. Not everyone buys tracks online right after they see it on beatport and other sites. I download a lot of music, free and bought and in many cases i started buying tracks from the artist after i downloaded a compilation or a track for free prior to that and liked that persons style/work. Same with sets, big promotion tool.

Regarding the leaked track, Angello should just watch who he is giving promos to, if you don't want your release to leak don't give it out to random people, his own fault imo.

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