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Posted by llavoe on Feb-09-2008 16:55:

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
I just finished listening to the whole thing. I love one track and sort of like the second one out of the whole set:

2. Glen Morrison - Circles
4. Adam K and Soha - Twilight

Overall too much Deadmau5 clones in here and not much trance was played in this set, although that may have not been Markus' intention. But still, I'm pretty open minded.


I agree that there were not that many quality standout tracks in this set. All-in-all it was an average set.

Mansion's sound system and equipment sucks. You can hear the poor quality in the effects and transitions of Markus' set. A lot of choppy mixes and the delay timings. Markus is a very good mixer esp in performances and I am not saying it's his fault at all. I am pointing the finger @ Mansion's setup.


Posted by neatski on Feb-14-2008 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by infinitetrance
LOL.. I know you can hear me.. I was screaming the entire show.. Almost lost my voice..

Awesome stuff.. Glad he aired this show...


I swear I hear you screaming, "MARKUS!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!" every time I listen to the set, haha.

Good times.


Posted by JD8180 on Feb-14-2008 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
I agree that there were not that many quality standout tracks in this set. All-in-all it was an average set.

Mansion's sound system and equipment sucks. You can hear the poor quality in the effects and transitions of Markus' set. A lot of choppy mixes and the delay timings. Markus is a very good mixer esp in performances and I am not saying it's his fault at all. I am pointing the finger @ Mansion's setup.




he's using cdj 1000's and a djm 800... pretty much the standard at a very good amount of clubs.


Posted by hiram on Feb-15-2008 06:21:

quote:
Originally posted by JD8180


he's using cdj 1000's and a djm 800... pretty much the standard at a very good amount of clubs.


monitors maybe?? mansion is fuckin enormous the sound delay must be massive


Posted by llavoe on Feb-15-2008 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by JD8180


he's using cdj 1000's and a djm 800... pretty much the standard at a very good amount of clubs.


I was referring to the sound system. The choppy mixes could come from wires, amps, etc. A CDJ 1000 itself does not really affect that Also a djm 800 is econo-standard. It's Mansion... Get a better setup than that. That looks like a really lame setup for such a big place.


Posted by JD8180 on Feb-16-2008 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
I was referring to the sound system. The choppy mixes could come from wires, amps, etc. A CDJ 1000 itself does not really affect that Also a djm 800 is econo-standard. It's Mansion... Get a better setup than that. That looks like a really lame setup for such a big place.


well i'm sure everything was recorded straight from the mixer... so the sound system should have nothing at all to do with it. and the wiring wouldn't affect it either because if he was recording from his laptop, then that's just like 3 feet of wire which would make no difference.


Posted by koky69 on Feb-17-2008 09:56:

Best Markus set i have heard in the past couple of years. I really liked it !!


Posted by llavoe on Feb-17-2008 10:05:

quote:
Originally posted by JD8180
well i'm sure everything was recorded straight from the mixer... so the sound system should have nothing at all to do with it. and the wiring wouldn't affect it either because if he was recording from his laptop, then that's just like 3 feet of wire which would make no difference.


I am not talking about the quality of the mix that was aired. You're missing my point. As a whole, Mansion's system is not good. It never has been. It's not what is recording or what he's mixing. It is the fact that they do not have good enough gear for such a big place. They need to fix it. When I talk about wires, I mean the ones going from the mixer to amps and speakers, not to a laptop. There is a major delay in the room from monitor-master. his mixes are choppy because it is hard to accomplish a spot-on transition in Mansion.


Posted by JD8180 on Feb-17-2008 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
I am not talking about the quality of the mix that was aired. You're missing my point. As a whole, Mansion's system is not good. It never has been. It's not what is recording or what he's mixing. It is the fact that they do not have good enough gear for such a big place. They need to fix it. When I talk about wires, I mean the ones going from the mixer to amps and speakers, not to a laptop. There is a major delay in the room from monitor-master. his mixes are choppy because it is hard to accomplish a spot-on transition in Mansion.


alright then we were arguing about different things the entire time


Posted by llavoe on Feb-17-2008 17:28:

I don't argue, I discuss

I am not taking anything away from that night. I am stressing that Markus and every other big DJ should get better conditions for such a big room.


Posted by koky69 on Feb-17-2008 17:56:

Will you 2 stfu and enjoy the set !!


































Posted by Ouwe Dwaas on Feb-18-2008 15:31:

Maryliz sent me a part of the pictures taken that night.
Soon I will get the other ones.

Attached a couple of pictures:




Posted by av1 on Feb-19-2008 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
I don't argue, I discuss

I am not taking anything away from that night. I am stressing that Markus and every other big DJ should get better conditions for such a big room.


Were you even there? I would guess not. Because if you were you would not be whining away. The night was a smashing success, take it from those of us that actually attended.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Feb-19-2008 01:11:

nice tracklist


Posted by echoform on Feb-19-2008 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Ouwe Dwaas




Damn.. I always get red eye..

Can't wait to meet you at Ultra Jordy.. Good times..


Posted by llavoe on Feb-19-2008 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by av1
Were you even there? I would guess not. Because if you were you would not be whining away. The night was a smashing success, take it from those of us that actually attended.


Why would I go to all the trouble of talking about Mansion's Sound System if I had not been there my fair share to hear it? Now finally after hearing a recording from the place, I am convinced that they need to fix it badly. With the WMC coming up, and people paying almost $100 to hear Tiesto or Sasha and Digweed, it really isn't fair to the performer or the listener to have to put up with that nonsense.

IMO the GDJBWT here in Miami was nothing compared to the previous 3 he aired (Argentina, BC, and China) Track selection was dull, sound was not good, and I expected that because WMC is too close to be playing anything mind-stopping. The sound System that MS will use in March (which is a smaller venue, with more sound than Mansion) will sound way more crisp. Hopefully March will be really good, and if you go, you'll think of this thread and be like "Hmmmm that smart-ass on TA was right... These two shows are completely different"


Posted by DiegoParra32 on Feb-19-2008 07:02:

when was the last time you went? its no space sound system of course but it sounds a lot better than in recent years when i was there in october. and i have no idea why you think the hosted set has anything to do with the sound system inside space. by that standard, i must have an amazing sound system b/c my sets are clear as hell lol.


Posted by llavoe on Feb-19-2008 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DiegoParra32
when was the last time you went? its no space sound system of course but it sounds a lot better than in recent years when i was there in october. and i have no idea why you think the hosted set has anything to do with the sound system inside space. by that standard, i must have an amazing sound system b/c my sets are clear as hell lol.


I was at this show.

I am talking about the SQ being a patron in Mansion.

I refer to the quality of transitions in the mix for REFERENCE to being at Mansion.

For the minimal beepy-boppy one sound a measure stuff you listen to Diego, you won't hear that kind of thing in those sets. Sasha did not have anything maxed out at all in Oct. He plays at a much slower Tempo than Markus. There wasn't enough Volume that night if you ask me. Also Sasha's tracks are all lined up in Live, so of course it is not going to sound choppy. But when you get a DJ like Markus who uses three CDJ's, plays faster progressive/trance at a faster tempo, you will hear them make transitions they do not normally make on a regular basis. I am arguing in favor of everyone being able to get what they pay for in terms of sound, and that's all.

Who's talking about Space? I wasn't...


Posted by Ouwe Dwaas on Feb-19-2008 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by infinitetrance
Damn.. I always get red eye..

Can't wait to meet you at Ultra Jordy.. Good times..


hehehe. it's funny because the camera they have, you can remove the red eyes in pictures. I have that option too on my brand new Sony Cybershot. I guess they don't know what all the options are

Can't wait to meet you too
We're going to have a blast


Posted by DiegoParra32 on Feb-19-2008 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
I was at this show.

I am talking about the SQ being a patron in Mansion.

I refer to the quality of transitions in the mix for REFERENCE to being at Mansion.

For the minimal beepy-boppy one sound a measure stuff you listen to Diego, you won't hear that kind of thing in those sets. Sasha did not have anything maxed out at all in Oct. He plays at a much slower Tempo than Markus. There wasn't enough Volume that night if you ask me. Also Sasha's tracks are all lined up in Live, so of course it is not going to sound choppy. But when you get a DJ like Markus who uses three CDJ's, plays faster progressive/trance at a faster tempo, you will hear them make transitions they do not normally make on a regular basis. I am arguing in favor of everyone being able to get what they pay for in terms of sound, and that's all.

Who's talking about Space? I wasn't...



i was just making a reference to space. in any case i thought you were saying that you were basing your opinion that mansion needed to upgrade their system based on how the set sounded and that you weren't at the show. thanks for clearing it up


Posted by av1 on Feb-19-2008 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
Why would I go to all the trouble of talking about Mansion's Sound System if I had not been there my fair share to hear it? Now finally after hearing a recording from the place, I am convinced that they need to fix it badly. With the WMC coming up, and people paying almost $100 to hear Tiesto or Sasha and Digweed, it really isn't fair to the performer or the listener to have to put up with that nonsense.

IMO the GDJBWT here in Miami was nothing compared to the previous 3 he aired (Argentina, BC, and China) Track selection was dull, sound was not good, and I expected that because WMC is too close to be playing anything mind-stopping. The sound System that MS will use in March (which is a smaller venue, with more sound than Mansion) will sound way more crisp. Hopefully March will be really good, and if you go, you'll think of this thread and be like "Hmmmm that smart-ass on TA was right... These two shows are completely different"


Well everyone already knows and has discussed the fact that Mansion's sound system has serious issues. That horse has been beat to death 100000000 times already. They need to either tweak the existing system, or scrap it altogether and replace it. I was there 4 Corsten and he was the only one I noticed brought in extra sound, and you could tell the difference. And BTW I will not be @ Mansion for WMC. Anyone who does go is setting themselves up for failure.

However it seemed from your posts that U were/are stating that Markus' set was weak or sucked. And if so, I disagree completely. Was his set the best in history, no of course not, but it was good. The set progressed well, and he played tracks that made the crowd move. Last time i checked that is what a DJ is supposed to do, and many DJs have failed miserably when trying to do so @ Mansion (a shitty venue that brings the worst out of many DJs to say the least - hint-hint Tiesto). Maybe Markus did not play the most underground set in history and did not bust out the uber-secret white label ID tracks that were hidden embedded within the 10 commandments or buried 10,000 feet under the red sea protected by a team of 50 foot white sharks and only discovered by Martians. But he played a set that did what it was supposed to do, kept the crowd dancing.

Either way, as always everyone is entitled to their opinions, which will vary


Posted by neatski on Feb-19-2008 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by av1
Maybe Markus did not play the most underground set in history and did not bust out the uber-secret white label ID tracks that were hidden embedded within the 10 commandments or buried 10,000 feet under the red sea protected by a team of 50 foot white sharks and only discovered by Martians. But he played a set that did what it was supposed to do, kept the crowd dancing.


HEAR, HEAR!


Posted by llavoe on Feb-20-2008 08:36:

I guess I am bent out of shape about this night because I expected so much more than what it was. To drive 4 hours, party, then to drive 4 hours back; and work immediately following this is what got me on my rant. I do expect a great, fresh set from Markus when he comes here, who doesn't?

Markus used to be here so much, and I miss those good underground sets I used to attend.

Highlight Track for me was his mix of "rush" That really was a great interpretation of that track.


Posted by JD8180 on Feb-20-2008 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
I guess I am bent out of shape about this night because I expected so much more than what it was. To drive 4 hours, party, then to drive 4 hours back; and work immediately following this is what got me on my rant. I do expect a great, fresh set from Markus when he comes here, who doesn't?

Markus used to be here so much, and I miss those good underground sets I used to attend.

Highlight Track for me was his mix of "rush" That really was a great interpretation of that track.


this was actually the first time i see markus live and he totally blew me away. ppl say that the TL might be boring, but i had an awesome time regardless. i wish he'd come down here more often


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