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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-13-2008 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by varun
What goes around, comes around simple as that.

I don't believe in karma as such, but I definitely think each person is 'repaid' in full for his / her actions that could be perceived as 'wrong'. Then again, who's the ultimate authority to say what's right or what's wrong? Maybe it was the right thing to do at that point of time, who knows?

At the end of the day, Karma is something that cannot be quantized and/or proven by scientific and/or mathematical observation.

Whether you chose to believe in it or not, to each his own.


contender for mr ambiguity 2008.


Posted by Boomer187 on Feb-13-2008 02:25:

Let's say I believe there are invisible aliens living among us. Does this make me stupid?


Posted by noikeee on Feb-13-2008 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
Let's say I believe there are invisible aliens living among us. Does this make me stupid?


Depends on what made you believe in invisible aliens.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Feb-13-2008 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by varun
I don't believe in karma as such, but I definitely think each person is 'repaid' in full for his / her actions that could be perceived as 'wrong'.


So you're saying you don't believe in 'karma', you only believe in karma. Ah, I get it.


Posted by Boomer187 on Feb-13-2008 02:59:

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
Depends on what made you believe in invisible aliens.



I felt them one time when I woke up...


Posted by Vivid Boy on Feb-13-2008 03:31:

i just see it as ppl who put themselves in shitty positions have shitty things happen to them and ppl who do shitty things usually put themselvesin shitty positions


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Feb-13-2008 03:55:

I believe that if a person does things to make others happy, the favor will be returned. Some people call that 'karma', others call it being 'good.' I just use the word karma because its less used than the word good. I wont debate this, though, and no, I do NOT believe karma is something that "exists", its more like a personality trait if that makes any sense.


Posted by Clovis on Feb-13-2008 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
I felt them one time when I woke up...



Sounds like Diesel to me.


Posted by Elec on Feb-13-2008 05:05:

Believing in karma as some sort of an authority which directs punishment to people who do bad deeds is retarded. Its a figure of speech used to express desire for bad things to happen to bad people, at best.
Sure, if you do something bad it might come back to bite you in the ass but only in relation to the thing you did. Stealing a pack of gum at a store and then getting into a car accident on the way home is in no way related.


Posted by !LL on Feb-13-2008 08:40:

Re: Re: people that believe in karma are stupid.

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction.

that doesn't apply in the "karma theory" at all, because good (or bad) things are NOT some kind of energy, or temperature, or force. you don't even have a measurement unit for good/bad.
you can't say that if I do something bad, that's going to make me happy, or viceversa (like temperature for example: a metal sphere with a certain temperature will absorb heat from the enviroment, hence the enviroment will RELEASE heat).

and in the case of someone stealing your gf: what if you don't give a sh*t about that? what if you just go like "oh f*ck it, I don't care". what becomes the act of stealing your gf? a bad thing or a good thing? (afterall, you're not upset, the other dude and your ex are happy together etc).


Posted by Jake Benson on Feb-13-2008 10:36:

Re: people that believe in karma are stupid.

I think Karma is a placebo. People use it thinking "what goes around comes around" when they're simply just behaving in a way, as NOIKEEE put it, to ultimately promote the species.

People who use Karma are actually internalizing what they've learned from society and retain those morals even in the absence of a direct reward or punishment. EXAMPLE: Say you are at a house party and you see a passed out chick upstairs all by herself. You COULD molest her, but that's "bad Karma" = which means even if you don't get caught and get away with it, it's still not a good thing to do.

Karma isn't "real". It's just a psychological method of maintaining morals in the absence of social ramifications which I help keeps civilization a little more orderly.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Feb-13-2008 11:16:

Placebo's have been shown to have significant effects in psychology.. If you believe you did something bad.. your actions will lead you to be on the receiving end of something bad to happen to you.. Perhaps a self fulfilling prophecy.

You should know all about recieving ends benson


Posted by noikeee on Feb-13-2008 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
I felt them one time when I woke up...


Then you'd just be ignorant for not knowing about this


Posted by blacknoizybox on Feb-13-2008 12:59:

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
I believe the widespread idea of "karma" is due to 2 things:

1) if humans are disposed to help each others as much as possible, our species will tend to last longer. It is therefore natural that people engage in mildly subconscious mutual agreements, where both parts are expected to do something to help the other part.

2) any "bad" actions that a human does (ie, actions that go against what is considered acceptable by society) are always more likely to bring that human poor reputation or sanctions from other humans, compared to "good" actions.

Therefore karma is a (shitty) rationalization of these facts, giving an easier, straightforward reason for humans to understand why they shouldn't piss each other off. People are more likely to force themselves to behave if they believe there'll always be a punishment there (harm to their individual being), rather than if they only acknowledge a possibility of punishment, and very-long-term harm for the species.

Just my 2 cents of amateur, cheap, made-up philosophy.


damn! u r good

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
EXAMPLE: Say you are at a house party and you see a passed out chick upstairs all by herself. You COULD molest her


YOU MUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dd


Posted by Jake Benson on Feb-13-2008 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Placebo's have been shown to have significant effects in psychology.. If you believe you did something bad.. your actions will lead you to be on the receiving end of something bad to happen to you.. Perhaps a self fulfilling prophecy.


Agreed fully. I wrote something similar on it one post above urs (but on the previous page)...AWWWW WE THINK ALIKE!


Posted by shaw on Feb-13-2008 17:59:

people who misuse pronouns are stupid.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Feb-13-2008 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Agreed fully. I wrote something similar on it one post above urs (but on the previous page)...AWWWW WE THINK ALIKE!


can we scheduel a time for sex?


Posted by stace on Feb-13-2008 20:10:

I don't believe in karma but sometimes I wish I did.


Posted by Jake Benson on Feb-14-2008 06:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
can we scheduel a time for sex?


Post pics first. No cock shots plz.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Feb-14-2008 06:10:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Oh god, not again.


hi j, happy v/anal-day!


Posted by eRRaTiK on Feb-14-2008 06:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
i believe karma exists. its as simple as this. what ever u focus on you attract. if u look for everything with the color green in the wroom u will only see the color green, because your focusing on it. so if your constantly a cocksucker ur gonna lead urself down cocksucker paths and eventually be a cocksuckered by a bigger cocksucker at some point.


omg i had to check the poster name twice. couldn't believe this was typed by vivid, well until I read the cocksucker bit


Posted by agentorange on Feb-14-2008 08:08:

its human nature to beleive in something more, and additionally

debating moral principles is about as productive as slamming your head into a wall. over and over. because everyone is right in their own mind, like the whacked out bastard that started this thread. he obviously doesnt beleive, will never beleive, and he may end up seeing why OTHER people beleive, but that will not effect his own beleifs.

just look at any radical religion, (and what more is religion than a standard set of beleifs or ideas adhered to) same idea applies there. a lot of talk, but no gain. haha why do you think so many people died in the crusades? very cutthroat environment 'convincing' another of your own beleifs.

my thoughts- if you dont beleive in karma karma will strike you down
and if you do beleive in karma it will fail you
owned bitch


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Feb-14-2008 08:34:

quote:
Originally posted by agentorange
debating moral principles is about as productive as slamming your head into a wall. over and over.


Only if your beliefs consist of nothing more than slamming your head into a wall, yeah.

Otherwise, there is plenty to extract and interact with when it comes to other people's perspectives on almost any matter there is... should you actually be receptive enough to listen to others rather than sit around waiting for your opportunity to make idiotic and utterly unrelated analogies.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-14-2008 08:53:

quote:
Originally posted by agentorange
its human nature to beleive in something more, and additionally

debating moral principles is about as productive as slamming your head into a wall. over and over. because everyone is right in their own mind, like the whacked out bastard that started this thread. he obviously doesnt beleive, will never beleive, and he may end up seeing why OTHER people beleive, but that will not effect his own beleifs.

just look at any radical religion, (and what more is religion than a standard set of beleifs or ideas adhered to) same idea applies there. a lot of talk, but no gain. haha why do you think so many people died in the crusades? very cutthroat environment 'convincing' another of your own beleifs.

my thoughts- if you dont beleive in karma karma will strike you down
and if you do beleive in karma it will fail you
owned bitch


the title of this thread sums you up perfectly.


Posted by Jake Benson on Feb-14-2008 10:35:

^^^^ CREDITS!!!!!

PCK just turned agentorange into agentorangejuice and drank it!


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