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Originally posted by Audious MS makes you shake.

Zing!

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Originally posted by blacknoizybox why are 99,9% of all music/film studios (and dj setups) powered with Macs? a coincidence? marketing? i think (though i never actually worked on a mac) that Macs are more suitable for pro-work like music production/djing since they are told to be more reliable and for stupid mcdonald-eater-and-shakira-in-ipod-listener because they are easy to use. you have everything you (stupid chicken brains) need like browser, photo, mp3, mail and garageband for the talented emos. its like a XBOX vs PC. the graphics are worse but you need not install anything. real plug&play. PC, on the other hand, takes some time and brain matter to setup and tweak correctly, install a bunch of 3rd-party apps, add/remove components, a few reghack here and there, backup the logical drive... but at the end of the day the PC gives you more possibilities, like a 6 speed manual gearbox vs lazyass automatic. imho

if you knew what your talking about, high end studios dont use macs. they use specially made pc computers. these machines usually run a *nix flavor. ILM is a great example. the ONLY studio that MIGHT is Pixar, but even last i knew they didnt use macs. they arent as "badass" as most would think. they are targeted at the uninformed.

Nearly all music studios I've seen run off of Mac Pros. Nearly all superhuge producer/DJs that make music use MacBook Pros. He knows what he's talking about. But there is always an exception

The main reason so many producers use Macs is probably that recent versions of Logic (7.0 and up) run only on Macs.

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Originally posted by iammesol Nearly all music studios I've seen run off of Mac Pros. Nearly all superhuge producer/DJs that make music use MacBook Pros. He knows what he's talking about. But there is always an exception

i was referencing film only. sorry i didnt see the "music/film"

I'd be interested to know if anyone can give a reason why Macs in themselves are better for audio processing, i.e. why they are better apart from the fact that one of the most widely-used programs (Logic) is exclusive to them.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The main reason so many producers use Macs is probably that recent versions of Logic (7.0 and up) run only on Macs.

Tell that to the people who run Cubase and Ableton.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I'd be interested to know if anyone can give a reason why Macs in themselves are better for audio processing, i.e. why they are better apart from the fact that one of the most widely-used programs (Logic) is exclusive to them.

because they are stable (and look pretty )

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Originally posted by iammesol Tell that to the people who run Cubase and Ableton. because they are stable (and look pretty )

the whole stability claim is a crock of shit. mostly cause i know for a fact studio machines arent online. so they arent subject to certain things. its quite easy to get updates from the admin machine to the studio machines. also windows xp is VERY stable comapared to previous OS'. i can keep my machine stable as hell if i dont install more than a couple programs in the lifetime of the machine. and since i know that studio machines dont have things changing constantly like a consumer machine the whole stability thing really becomes more a crock of shit.

Experience has shown me that your post is a crock of shit, Ben.

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Originally posted by iammesol Experience has shown me that your post is a crock of shit, Ben.

shut up sam!

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Originally posted by iammesol because they are stable (and look pretty )

I haven't found Macs to be very stable at all. At least not compared to my PC.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I haven't found Macs to be very stable at all. At least not compared to my PC.

they arent as stable if your an idiot and load lots of shit software and go to sites that want you to install a bunch of shit when its unnecessary.

Exactly. Learn to use a PC properly and it'll be more stable than a mac.

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Originally posted by Fledz MS doesn't make computers

really???

no shit!

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Originally posted by montie really??? no shit!

lol

ps: are you really back in STL?

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel lol ps: are you really back in STL?

nah, i actually am now living in NYC.


I moved here back in May. I was planning on moving back to LA but ended up getting a job in NYC before i could get a job in LA.

as great as NYC is, I miss the west coast.

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Originally posted by montie nah, i actually am now living in NYC. I moved here back in May. I was planning on moving back to LA but ended up getting a job in NYC before i could get a job in LA. as great as NYC is, I miss the west coast.

ahh ok. yeah i remember when you moved to NYC. we were all sad. come visit some time!

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel ahh ok. yeah i remember when you moved to NYC. we were all sad. come visit some time!

haha. i miss LA!

i will be visiting soon. I will sound the alarm and let you know when i do. i've got to pick a good weekend to come out. I am also thinking about coming in for Coachella this year.

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Originally posted by montie haha. i miss LA! i will be visiting soon. I will sound the alarm and let you know when i do. i've got to pick a good weekend to come out. I am also thinking about coming in for Coachella this year.

nice. coachella has a great lineup this year.

The reason that Mac's are mainly found in movies/tv shows etc is that unless the production is sponsored by another computer manufacturer most of the people on set use macs and so thats what is always around.

Lots of video editing in done on mac's Final Cut ETC.

Every studio I have ever worked at was Mac based Pro Tools frequently with Avid for voice over integration.

Pixar uses Mac Pro's the last time I talked to my friend who works there. In addition they use a lot of XServes and XRaids for storing their content.

The thing is that a lot of people are very comfortable working with their macs at home and at work. The Mac's tend to require less hassling to set up intially then the PC boxes plus the recording software runs very well on the Mac's.

Since its unix based it also tends to be very rock solid. I know XP is solid to, but what about Vista and what about when XP first came out. Microsoft isn't known for releasing product that is stable and reliable for the first couple of years. This is a major major problem for a studio that has to have reliability above all else. The apples tend to bring the operating system up to speed faster.

Again all this is my opinion based off working with studio heads and working in a few recording studios.

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Originally posted by Psiweaver The reason that Mac's are mainly found in movies/tv shows etc is that unless the production is sponsored by another computer manufacturer most of the people on set use macs and so thats what is always around. Lots of video editing in done on mac's Final Cut ETC. Every studio I have ever worked at was Mac based Pro Tools frequently with Avid for voice over integration. Pixar uses Mac Pro's the last time I talked to my friend who works there. In addition they use a lot of XServes and XRaids for storing their content. The thing is that a lot of people are very comfortable working with their macs at home and at work. The Mac's tend to require less hassling to set up intially then the PC boxes plus the recording software runs very well on the Mac's. Since its unix based it also tends to be very rock solid. I know XP is solid to, but what about Vista and what about when XP first came out. Microsoft isn't known for releasing product that is stable and reliable for the first couple of years. This is a major major problem for a studio that has to have reliability above all else. The apples tend to bring the operating system up to speed faster. Again all this is my opinion based off working with studio heads and working in a few recording studios.

to be fair, OS X had a ton of problems on first release too. so they arent immune either. even leopard had a bunch of problems that they promptly fixed.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel to be fair, OS X had a ton of problems on first release too. so they arent immune either. even leopard had a bunch of problems that they promptly fixed.

Yeah my point being the speed at which they were fixed. The thing is, is that it is a lot easier for apple to fix problems as it has 1 less variable than M$ft to deal with in that it knows all the hardware that it will be installed upon where as Microsoft does not. Plus apple has control over both hardware and software.

The whole debate is silly to me I was just pointing out why it tends to be the case one way or another.

The build quality on the Laptops and computers is also top notch which tends to help apple.

I personally own 2 apples, a Titanium Powerbooker and a 24" iMac quad core

and 2 PC's an older dell which i use to torrent and host my media files and a newer box for gaming.

I love certain things about each of them.

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Originally posted by Psiweaver Yeah my point being the speed at which they were fixed. The thing is, is that it is a lot easier for apple to fix problems as it has 1 less variable than M$ft to deal with in that it knows all the hardware that it will be installed upon where as Microsoft does not. Plus apple has control over both hardware and software. The whole debate is silly to me I was just pointing out why it tends to be the case one way or another. The build quality on the Laptops and computers is also top notch which tends to help apple. I personally own 2 apples, a Titanium Powerbooker and a 24" iMac quad core and 2 PC's an older dell which i use to torrent and host my media files and a newer box for gaming. I love certain things about each of them.

i purposely didnt go into the personal reasons i dont like them because i didnt want to turn this into a debate of which is better. hence why i was so specific in what i said and left it at that.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel i purposely didnt go into the personal reasons i dont like them because i didnt want to turn this into a debate of which is better. hence why i was so specific in what i said and left it at that.

sounds good was just clarifying my statements.

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Originally posted by Psiweaver sounds good was just clarifying my statements.

i do agree build quality is much higher in the physical aspect. hence why im going to get a macbook pro. love the execution of it.

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