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Posted by EricR. on Feb-23-2008 21:47:

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I bet some people say "well tiesto does the same thing". No he doesnt you fucking hater, jump on the tiesto hate bandwagon some more.


I can't believe you trash Oakenfold and then go onto praise Tiesto. Tiesto is a bigger hack than Oakenfold. Tiesto pays other producers to write songs for him and then slaps his name on the tune like he made it himself. All the "hits" that Tiesto is known for have been produced solely by other people. Personally I don't like either artist all that much.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Feb-23-2008 22:13:

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Originally posted by EricR.
I can't believe you trash Oakenfold and then go onto praise Tiesto. Tiesto is a bigger hack than Oakenfold. Tiesto pays other producers to write songs for him and then slaps his name on the tune like he made it himself. All the "hits" that Tiesto is known for have been produced solely by other people. Personally I don't like either artist all that much.



Wow I had no idea about that! Where did you find that info?


Posted by Subtle on Feb-23-2008 22:42:

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Originally posted by EricR.
Tiesto pays other producers to write songs for him and then slaps his name on the tune like he made it himself. All the "hits" that Tiesto is known for have been produced solely by other people.
How do you know that excactly ?

Tiesto had releases long before he got famous, under many aliases, your telling me he didnt make those either, or that he stopped making music ?


Posted by Krispy Kreme on Feb-23-2008 23:33:

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Originally posted by EricR.
I can't believe you trash Oakenfold and then go onto praise Tiesto. Tiesto is a bigger hack than Oakenfold. Tiesto pays other producers to write songs for him and then slaps his name on the tune like he made it himself. All the "hits" that Tiesto is known for have been produced solely by other people. Personally I don't like either artist all that much.


bullshit. Tiesto doesnt solely produce tracks himself, however he does not pay other people to produce tracks for him and then just slap his name on it.

Tiesto has people producing with him, but he also does a lot of the work.


Posted by A1C on Feb-24-2008 00:39:

Of course it's insulting that he would stoop to the level that he has. He really is giving his fans the middle finger with his antics these days. He knows how to mix. He's been doing it for over 20 years and he use to be pretty good at it. It's sad that he's let himself get to the level that he's gotten to... and people still go to see him.... Even that DJ that now tours with him, Kenneth Thomas has gotten sucked into it all.. Kenneth is actually pretty good and has to bare the brunt of Oakey's rotten sets these days. But, he's sucked into that fame that Oakey wields.. He's a fame whore and wants to live that jet set life and not work for it. Humm... he's become the paris hilton of EDM... show up, get fuked up, wave, get paid....lol

What a tool


Posted by Krispy Kreme on Feb-24-2008 01:35:

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Originally posted by A1C
Of course it's insulting that he would stoop to the level that he has. He really is giving his fans the middle finger with his antics these days. He knows how to mix. He's been doing it for over 20 years and he use to be pretty good at it. It's sad that he's let himself get to the level that he's gotten to... and people still go to see him.... Even that DJ that now tours with him, Kenneth Thomas has gotten sucked into it all.. Kenneth is actually pretty good and has to bare the brunt of Oakey's rotten sets these days. But, he's sucked into that fame that Oakey wields.. He's a fame whore and wants to live that jet set life and not work for it. Humm... he's become the paris hilton of EDM... show up, get fuked up, wave, get paid....lol

What a tool


yup , exactly right. People like rich still jock on his nuts though


Posted by barnes17 on Feb-24-2008 04:06:

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Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
bullshit. Tiesto doesnt solely produce tracks himself, however he does not pay other people to produce tracks for him and then just slap his name on it.

Tiesto has people producing with him, but he also does a lot of the work.


I agree with Krispy all the way. Tiesto's sets are intense, he is a crowd commander, just look at what people say on his youtube videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu-enxqj9aY

Oakenfold is a dumbass, he's just a leech. Tiesto is fresh, he's involved and he's true to the genre. There used to be a video awhile back where Tiesto i remember cried onstage behind the decks, pretty powerful video in my opinion.

I'm not some crazy ass Tiesto groupie, but you gotta pay respect when respect is due.

Oakenfag just needs to fuck off.


Posted by Krispy Kreme on Feb-24-2008 05:03:

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Originally posted by barnes17
I agree with Krispy all the way. Tiesto's sets are intense, he is a crowd commander, just look at what people say on his youtube videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu-enxqj9aY

Oakenfold is a dumbass, he's just a leech. Tiesto is fresh, he's involved and he's true to the genre. There used to be a video awhile back where Tiesto i remember cried onstage behind the decks, pretty powerful video in my opinion.

I'm not some crazy ass Tiesto groupie, but you gotta pay respect when respect is due.

Oakenfag just needs to fuck off.


do you have that vid of tiesto crying? shit like that really inspires me, trance and awesome music in general is a powerful thing


Posted by barnes17 on Feb-24-2008 05:57:

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Originally posted by Krispy Kreme


do you have that vid of tiesto crying? shit like that really inspires me, trance and awesome music in general is a powerful thing


I couldn't find it just now, it wasn't long at all and it was in the beginning of the video maybe like first 10 seconds. This video was years ago, like 2003 or so. I'll keep looking for it.


Posted by xxonemanriotxx on Feb-24-2008 08:45:

I never liked okenfolds music to begin with. I would never go to one of his shows, even if my life depended on it. I've heard that he fake mixed before. Thats just sad...


Posted by darkt on Feb-24-2008 09:16:

oakenfold was class
tiesto is running the show but fading to commercial market which the edm will hate him for later on.
PVD...who's that
Armin...next signing is gonna be Carlos Santana to armada (JOKE)


Posted by richg101 on Feb-24-2008 09:30:

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Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
yup , exactly right. People like rich still jock on his nuts though


you remind me of the young aspiring dj that never dances at parties. he just stands behind the dj, watching his every move and pretending to be important. the the day after, he just moans about the 1 or 2 mixes that came off sync for 2 seconds. hahahahaha

id bet money that you didnt even know about trance when trance was at its peak, when oakenfold was paving the way for the future. and your argument dies horribly when you bring tiesto into the equasion as a backup to your case.

you'd probably pay �100 just to sit next to tiesto while he dj'd. and when you noticed that he might be cheating a little or 'god forbid' using a premade mix cd and pretending. you would be on TA within 5 mins of getting back and start writing the same thing about tiesto.


Posted by kevin shawn on Feb-24-2008 10:28:

Narcotics and one song got me into listening to trance and at the time I happened to be attending a party where Oakey was headlining....Changed my life.


Fast forward to 2007, las vegas, Tabu nightclub the man himself played the original mix of Sexy back by Justin Timberlake. Not a remix but the original. I walked out extremely drunk and dissapointed.

The dude used to have skills, never heard anyone mix like him when he was on top of his game, he was flawless. But I think it is time to retire. I've heard he is going deaf and I'm sure after so many years of constantly playing on monster sound systems it has taken its toll.

Best set ever was him at Nocturnal Wonderland 2004 in California when he dropped Amoebassassian - Piledriver....I wept and wept.


Posted by Subtle on Feb-24-2008 11:11:

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Originally posted by Kevy Kev
Fast forward to 2007, las vegas, Tabu nightclub the man himself played the original mix of Sexy back by Justin Timberlake. Not a remix but the original.
I think i`d quit life if that had happened to me.


Posted by Sh!fty on Feb-24-2008 11:29:

I've only heared 1 set of him, and it contained Tiesto - Traffic. So that shit went straight to the carbage for me. I don't really know any of his own productions, except for Ready Steady Go, which I can enjoy.

But on topic:

It would find it hard to believe that he plays prerecorded CD's all the time and gets away with it.

In my perspective you cought him on an off day (don't we all have them?)
and you got bummed by paying to see him that time.


Posted by Krispy Kreme on Feb-24-2008 20:29:

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Originally posted by richg101
you remind me of the young aspiring dj that never dances at parties. he just stands behind the dj, watching his every move and pretending to be important. the the day after, he just moans about the 1 or 2 mixes that came off sync for 2 seconds. hahahahaha

id bet money that you didnt even know about trance when trance was at its peak, when oakenfold was paving the way for the future. and your argument dies horribly when you bring tiesto into the equasion as a backup to your case.

you'd probably pay �100 just to sit next to tiesto while he dj'd. and when you noticed that he might be cheating a little or 'god forbid' using a premade mix cd and pretending. you would be on TA within 5 mins of getting back and start writing the same thing about tiesto.


when your done sucking off oakenfag let me know. Maybe ill pay attention to 1 word you just mumbled with his dick in your mouth


Posted by Krispy Kreme on Feb-24-2008 20:30:

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Originally posted by Sh!fty
I've only heared 1 set of him, and it contained Tiesto - Traffic. So that shit went straight to the carbage for me. I don't really know any of his own productions, except for Ready Steady Go, which I can enjoy.

But on topic:

It would find it hard to believe that he plays prerecorded CD's all the time and gets away with it.

In my perspective you cought him on an off day (don't we all have them?)
and you got bummed by paying to see him that time.


oakenfag uses the same premix everytime. in ultra 2005 he set was before tiesto.... and he "played" traffic.... before tiesto


Posted by richg101 on Feb-24-2008 20:47:

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Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
when your done sucking off oakenfag let me know. Maybe ill pay attention to 1 word you just mumbled with his dick in your mouth


well done. you are a real champ


Posted by Blahzaay on Feb-25-2008 05:24:

I've seen/heard of a couple of local DJ's in the bigger clubs in my hometown walk away from the decks and it would "magically" mix in to the next song. I never thought I'd ever hear of a big name DJ put on a mix CD. It makes my blood boil. People pay big money to see these guys and realistically a 5 year old kid could put on a mix CD.


Posted by lowski on Feb-25-2008 05:42:

the only oakenfold song i ever heard was that killer pussy cat song, or whatever it was called


Posted by Tt1 on Feb-25-2008 05:53:

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Originally posted by lowski
the only oakenfold song i ever heard was that killer pussy cat song, or whatever it was called


Faster Kill Pussycat ft. Brittany Murphy?


And about the Oakenfold debate....I highly respect him and I'd be bummed out if I payed to see him put on an elite performance and it was brought to my attention that he was using a mix CD....but I'd go on with life....

Edit:And to Krispy Kreme, that sucks that you had to be exposed to that on multiple occasions, I'd never go to exclusively see him again if I were in your shoes (or I would be near the front of the stage/dj booth with my back turned to him during his set! ) In the end you went looking for the man and instead found a mouse....

Personally, I think it only gives more room for us aspiring DJs to break into the game.


Posted by ONION on Feb-25-2008 06:53:

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Originally posted by richg101


id bet money that you didnt even know about trance when trance was at its peak


I can tell you man, you could possibly say that for the vast majority of TA considering Trance was at its peak in 94.... sorry 99


Posted by Nightshift on Feb-25-2008 07:23:

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Originally posted by Tt1
Faster Kill Pussycat ft. Brittany Murphy?


i personally love that song.


Posted by SteelWolf on Feb-25-2008 13:44:

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Originally posted by Kevy Kev
Best set ever was him at Nocturnal Wonderland 2004 in California when he dropped Amoebassassian - Piledriver....I wept and wept.


Fucking CHOON I still play that out.

As for Oakey? Last set I enjoyed from him was in 04. He has gone downhill. But you know what? Oh well. He's past his time. Big fucking deal. If it wasn't for him in the 90's I'd NEVER have gotten into this kind of music, so let the guy be. He'll probably give it up shortly anyway I'd guess. Maybe hes depressed? He's old, and didnt he divorce recently? WHo knows. Who cares. People still enjoy him, not me but others apparently do or he wouldnt still be playing.


Posted by olwenskatha on Feb-26-2008 07:55:

here�s my opinion though, i think he should quit mixing and stand up for his legacy focusing in promoting the music he loves by looking for some new talent, i mean by how i look at oakenfold for my point of view, you could tell he�s arrogant, and i support the people that complaint, cause we are putting all we have on sharing what we like the most, so in a way im kind off ofended by him, cause i feel like hes making fun of it. i don�t know just my thought


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