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Young Offender's Act has only told the kids that if they break the law, all they get is a slap on the wrist.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess i wonder what they were on. it just sickens me. and i bet they were all the size of adults so anyone that says they would have taken on these kids is dead wrong. they would kick your ass in a second and not give a shit about it since they are protected under young offenders act. i didn't get beaten and i am an upstanding individual. edit: lol.

Thats bullshit...it depends on the person...obviously if you are a skinny underweight individual your chances of beating these kids asses are greatly reduced but lets say there just so happened to be a 230 lbs black belt sitting on that car Im sure those kids would think twice and if not would get there asses handed to them.

As awful an event as this story is, I couldn't help but notice what a horribly written article this is. This guy is a regular contributor? Brutal.

so seven teenagers get on the subway and his next sentence is "here comes trouble"? because seven teenagers together is *always* bad news!

"hold onto your hat" and "thing got ugly then"...those are some insightful lines.

Is there really a need to further sensationlize this story by inserting additional drama and cliches? the facts paint a clear enough picture of what happened. Maybe comment on what else could be done in that situation, advocate for additional security options to riders, question why this happens...something. Insetead, he finishes with this gem:

"...and yes, those kids had a weapon. Teenaged rage."

so this article recounts a negative event and offers nothing else other than implying that groups of teens are clearly up to no good and we can do nothing about it.

weak.

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Originally posted by love_child Yeah I got this one alot And when my dad beat my ass with a belt I would try to jump high and forward at the same time to ease the impact but he would hold me hahaha...those were the days

+1

Lmao, me too man. I bet every kid who got beaten tried that move, that was my secret move until my grandma figured it out.

Seriously though the shit kids get away with these days is ridiculous.

My dad used to get physical with me when I was young, but it was only for my own good. It damn sure kept me in line. I got used to him yelling at an early age, but also feared a good smack.

I definitely wouldn't behave as well today if he didn't bring me up the way he did

if that hoebag threw a punch at me, the 'dont put your hands on women' rule would get broken, quickfast.

this sounds less to do with being an issue about teenagers and more about being an issue about mental patients of any age. Most teenagers and older people dont behave this way. I dont like how age has been implicated here when this person clearly has mental problems.

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Originally posted by love_child lets say there just so happened to be a 230 lbs black belt sitting on that car Im sure those kids would think twice and if not would get there asses handed to them.

lol I'm 230 lbs and I have a black belt, but if I was sitting on that bus I would of mind my own business call the cops or get off and call the cops. Obviously these teenagers are a little out of control so who knows what they can do, or what weapons they can have. I may be able to take two maybe three of them but the 4th one would knock me down and I'll be helpless.

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Originally posted by Invasionmix beat your kids people!

Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad!

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Originally posted by Invasionmix lol I'm 230 lbs and I have a black belt, but if I was sitting on that bus I would of mind my own business call the cops or get off and call the cops. Obviously these teenagers are a little out of control so who knows what they can do, or what weapons they can have. I may be able to take two maybe three of them but the 4th one would knock me down and I'll be helpless.

I agree. Violence with a crazy person is just not a good idea.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur I agree. Violence with a crazy person is just not a good idea.

nah, its the best kind of violence. cause bitches like those punks are just that, little bitches. one bitchslap would solve that problem right away.

"kids are our future. unless we stop them !!"

homer j. simpson

im all for giving a good whooping. i got a good share of ass whoopings, ear tugs, tung tiu (dunno how to spell it, but the feather duster thingy), many spoons were broken on me. I was a goody goody nerd but to balance that out i was also a bad ass kid. without that discipline i would be lack of respect. Its one of the things i treasure, my ability to be open minded, to respect others as I expect to be respected, have a mind of my own... i personally hate the whole emo kid generation. i had a death threat put on me in highschool by one of them. i gave that kid a good whooping when he approached me. he got expelled that day for having a knife

How did this turn from an unruly kids, to a beating thread?

IMO this is just an isolated incident. With the number of good kids out there, I don't think we have to be worried about being subjected to this type of behaviour. I ride the subway 2-4 times a day and most youths act just fine.

Granted there are bad apples out there, but that is true for any era, any time period.

The real problem with the subway is that most people are not willing stand up for what is right and just. That happens way more often when a crime is committed and nobody comes forward to help, or to be a witness.

I think those kids should be fully charged and banned from using the TTC. They have videocameras on the premises, it should be possible to identify them, what station they got on and where they got off (I think the article mentioned it was College station). Then, if the cops can't find them, just publish their picture on the evening news, newspapers, contact High Schools, etc. The "Young Offenders Act" criteria about how their identity has to be protected is bullshit IMO, it shouldn't be enforced, because what they did was a serious physical assault, verbal abuse to several people and uttering threats (??). They also inconvenienced all the other passengers on the other lines because the subway would have been stalled waiting for the paramedics to arrive to take care of the injured person, so that would have slowed or stalled down the whole system. To dispatch the ambulance would have cost money too, in addition to the extra costs to the TTC. I know for a fact that if you get convicted of assault on the TTC, you get banned from using it for a certain period of time (not that it ever happened to me, lol), so if those "kids" get caught, I would enforce that rule 100%, and in addition, make them work to pay for the extra costs of the ambulance, and to pay damages to the injured person (the court could determine how much). Just send them to enforced labour and then garnish their wages until their debt to society is fully paid, like they do in Singapore, heh And make them wear an orange vest with the details of their crime while they are working to pay their debt, I heard that that's what they do in Singapore as well...

ffs - this whole new school parenting thing... dont touch your kids... give them "timeout"

they mock your timeouts. they scoff at your "no nintendo for a week". (they usually find it anyway)

if yer not prepared to lay the smackdown, don't add to the population count

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Originally posted by Orko How did this turn from an unruly kids, to a beating thread? IMO this is just an isolated incident. With the number of good kids out there, I don't think we have to be worried about being subjected to this type of behaviour. I ride the subway 2-4 times a day and most youths act just fine. Granted there are bad apples out there, but that is true for any era, any time period. The real problem with the subway is that most people are not willing stand up for what is right and just. That happens way more often when a crime is committed and nobody comes forward to help, or to be a witness.

Wow... you must be lucky every time you get on the subway. I see rude kids absolutely everywhere. Kids talking back/hitting/spitting on/to their parents in stores, buses, subways, etc. EVERY day. Not to mention being rude as hell to other people.

Just today on my way home (i live in richmond hill btw so it's not like it's a ghetto area), some little girl who was probably about 10 years old sits next to me. Right opposite her there's a woman minding her own business, chewing gum. The kid just looks at her and goes "Give me gum!" and the woman, being nice, gives the kid a piece of gum and the little girl looks at it and goes "I didn't say give me ONE gum I said give me gum! Give me 4 pieces"! I was like WTF! Wtf happened to manners?! Holy shit, take your one piece and be happy. I wouldn't have given her shit in the first place because she didn't even say please.

So no, it's not just a few bad apples. Kids everywhere are becoming ruder with all this "no hitting" nonsense. I see it every day, and I am absolutely resigned to resort to smacking if my kids deserve it. I had WAY more respect for my elders/parents than kids do these days. It's shameful.

Pain is the nature's way of telling you that you fucked up.

If you don't understand words, you'll understand pain

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Originally posted by Yohan Pain is the nature's way of telling you that you fucked up. If you don't understand words, you'll understand pain

Both of those are t-shirt worthy.

You will make a great father one day...hopefully not by accident

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Originally posted by Yohan Pain is the nature's way of telling you that you fucked up. If you don't understand words, you'll understand pain

WOW

QFT

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Originally posted by Zentac_75 Both of those are t-shirt worthy. You will make a great father one day...hopefully not by accident

I can't take credit for the first quote.

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Originally posted by Yohan Pain is the nature's way of telling you that you fucked up. If you don't understand words, you'll understand pain

lol that's what I always say... "how is a 4 year old suppose to know what's the concept of whats right and what's wrong, they just know what's gonna hurt and what won't"

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Originally posted by Yohan Pain is the nature's way of telling you that you fucked up. If you don't understand words, you'll understand pain

Exactly. Thank you!

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Originally posted by Yohan Pain is the nature's way of telling you that you fucked up. If you don't understand words, you'll understand pain

Hahahahaha that's awesome. Truer words were never spoken. I used to have slippers thrown at me, wooden baking spoons broken countless times etc. From what a lot of people are describing it seems discipline in this day and age is severly lacking, surprisingly I haven't seen to much craziness in public myself...


As for the kids on the bus, immature POS brats. If I were to take action (and I'd think hard before doing so) you go hard and fast so they have no real time to react. Flat out assault on an old man is UNCALLED for and deserves swift retribution, but like I said it'd be something I'd think about before doing. I mean I'd rather not get shot by some snot nosed fucking punk think they're justified because their 'life is shit'.

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Originally posted by kotsy Love Your Kids? Prove it by beating them

LOL

There's an old expression,"sometimes you have to let your kids touch the stove". How true. You can tell the kid all they want not to touch it because they'll get burned, but how will tey ever know what 'burned' is without feeling it.

Likewise, how will they ever know not to swear at thier parents unless they get a good whack out of it? It's like our cushy justice system, all warnings, no follow-through.

My kids are gonna be beatin's, and be better people for it...like me.

Wooden spoons, spatulas and the good old right hand are what developed my behaviour as a child, and I see no problem with that.

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