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Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-06-2008 06:13:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
afaik, using a converter actually softens your photos a bit and you lose a couple f/stops.


Yeah, I'm aware of that. Just edited my post to include the point that it's got Image Stabilization, which will help things out with the tele-comverter.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-06-2008 06:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Zewad
does not sound very pocket friendly... i dont approve



Posted by shapes on Mar-06-2008 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Yeah, I'm aware of that. Just edited my post to include the point that it's got Image Stabilization, which will help things out with the tele-comverter.


Wont improve image quality with a teleconverter. Might keep you from shaking a bit. You'd need like 1/500 to get an effective hand held picture. IS will give you about 3 stops "relief".

A 1.4x isn't going to give you that bad image quality, but a 2x will do some significance.

Also, better have a good body otherwise it's going to feel like crap. And get a grip for the body unless you have a 1D.


Posted by shaw on Mar-06-2008 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Time for a brief hijack.

I think I'm going to buy a f/4 Canon L 300mm prime lens, and use it with a Canon L 1.4X tele-converter. This will effectively give me a 420mm prime lens (apparently, with no loss of image quality due to the tele-converter as well).

I was looking at the Canon L 100-400mm, but I know that it gets a bit soft at full focal length, which is how I would be using it 90% of the time.

Thoughts? Comments?


http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/c...#ModelDetailAct


Posted by shaw on Mar-06-2008 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Zewad
does not sound very pocket friendly... i dont approve



Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-06-2008 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by shapes
Wont improve image quality with a teleconverter. Might keep you from shaking a bit. You'd need like 1/500 to get an effective hand held picture. IS will give you about 3 stops "relief".

A 1.4x isn't going to give you that bad image quality, but a 2x will do some significance.

Also, better have a good body otherwise it's going to feel like crap. And get a grip for the body unless you have a 1D.


I know the tele won't improve the quality, but I need the focal length - I'll mostly be doing bird photography. Definitely need at least 1/500 too, as those little bastards move damn fast.

Apparently, the 1.4x works exceptionally well with this lens, and I only lose 1 f-stop.

And I'm using a Canon 20D body.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-06-2008 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/c...#ModelDetailAct


Can't afford it


Posted by shaw on Mar-06-2008 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Can't afford it


perhaps an easyshare would be more to your liking, then, sir.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-06-2008 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
perhaps an easyshare would be more to your liking, then, sir.


Nevar!

Unless you wanna give me a loan?


Posted by shaw on Mar-06-2008 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Nevar!

Unless you wanna give me a loan?


for an easyshare?

I suppose I could spare a ha'penny or two.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-06-2008 06:45:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
for an easyshare?

I suppose I could spare a ha'penny or two.


And for the 400mm prime?


Posted by shapes on Mar-06-2008 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
I know the tele won't improve the quality, but I need the focal length - I'll mostly be doing bird photography. Definitely need at least 1/500 too, as those little bastards move damn fast.

Apparently, the 1.4x works exceptionally well with this lens, and I only lose 1 f-stop.

And I'm using a Canon 20D body.


Good...20D is on par with the 1D Mark IIn for noise control. The 420mm with the 300 F4 (Going to be F5.6...I think?)

Get yourself a grip for the body if you don't have one. Should be good for bird photography.


Posted by shaw on Mar-06-2008 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
And for the 400mm prime?


I suppose I could spare a ha'penny or two.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-06-2008 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by shapes
Good...20D is on par with the 1D Mark IIn for noise control. The 420mm with the 300 F4 (Going to be F5.6...I think?)

Get yourself a grip for the body if you don't have one. Should be good for bird photography.


Define grip?


Posted by shapes on Mar-06-2008 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Define grip?




BGE2 is the model name. Adds some nice balance and comfort to the camera.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-06-2008 06:59:

quote:
Originally posted by shapes


BGE2 is the model name. Adds some nice balance and comfort to the camera.


Oh yeah, cool. Well, my gf and I bought a second 20D last week (we need 2 cams, obviously, and we got rid of our 400D a couple of weeks ago) and this one has that exact grip/battery pack. The other lenses we have aren't heavy enough to require that kind of 'balance' so all is good.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-07-2008 02:40:

Well, I bought it.



Canon f/4 300mm L Prime Lens

Should get it in about a week


Posted by shapes on Mar-07-2008 03:43:

I had a Nikon 300 F4 before I moved to Canon. Was the sharpest lens I'd ever used besides a 400 F2.8L IS


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-07-2008 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by shapes
I had a Nikon 300 F4 before I moved to Canon. Was the sharpest lens I'd ever used besides a 400 F2.8L IS


Haha, I'd love to get the f/2.8 of this, but damn, I just don't have $5,000 to spend.


Posted by shapes on Mar-07-2008 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Haha, I'd love to get the f/2.8 of this, but damn, I just don't have $5,000 to spend.


Used lens

My buddy has a 200 F1.8L and a 400 F2.8L IS and the entire range of L lenses downward :P. A lot of duplicates also.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-07-2008 04:25:

quote:
Originally posted by shapes
Used lens


Yeah, I bought this one used, from the US. Still expensive!

quote:
Originally posted by shapes
My buddy has a 200 F1.8L and a 400 F2.8L IS and the entire range of L lenses downward :P. A lot of duplicates also.


So...What's his address?


Posted by Dervish on Mar-07-2008 04:31:

Hmm since you guys are all into this kinda thing. is a Nikon D40 decent? I was erring towards the Pentax...something 100(K100?) but heard slightly better things about the D40. Even though it has less features (like no image stabilisation).


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-07-2008 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
Hmm since you guys are all into this kinda thing. is a Nikon D40 decent? I was erring towards the Pentax...something 100(K100?) but heard slightly better things about the D40. Even though it has less features (like no image stabilisation).


Not too sure, I've never had a Nikon before. What's your budget?


Posted by Dervish on Mar-07-2008 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Not too sure, I've never had a Nikon before. What's your budget?


Well this is 22|22 hindsight I bought it. I got it for �270 or $540 (us) , $580 (Oz Money).

Actually why do you use $ in Oz? Surely it should be Oz �?


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-07-2008 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
Well this is 22|22 hindsight I bought it. I got it for �270 or $540 (us) , $580 (Oz Money).

Actually why do you use $ in Oz? Surely it should be Oz �?


Ah, I see. Well, I'm sure it's not a shit camera. I think that lenses make more difference personally (along with photographic ability/composition lol). What it comes down to is whether it will do the stuff you want it to.

And we ditched the pound a long time ago The queen'll be next!


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