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Well damn, this even exceeds my expectations.
I think I will like this even more than Salamat, which was just a tad too ethnic sounding for my taste.

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Originally posted by Jasperovitsj Well damn, this even exceeds my expectations. I think I will like this even more than Salamat, which was just a tad too ethnic sounding for my taste.

Don't you think it's a little condescending to call it "ethnic" just because it isn't Western in origin?

As far as I know there is no condescending connotation to the term "ethnic" If Moshic had used Native American chants or old Balkan influences, they would still be ethnic in origin, no matter where they came from. Nothing condescending about that. Trust me, the anthropology courses I took at university taught me to not be ethnocentric in my views.

Indeed sounds like fantastic album but I wouldn't expect anything less from Moshic. Great producer!

I'll definitely be getting this, even though I've pissed off the entire Moshic forum with my Music Disc thread about the cover

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Originally posted by Jasperovitsj As far as I know there is no condescending connotation to the term "ethnic" If Moshic had used Native American chants or old Balkan influences, they would still be ethnic in origin, no matter where they came from. Nothing condescending about that. Trust me, the anthropology courses I took at university taught me to not be ethnocentric in my views.

Wouldn't that mean that all music with a distinct cultural source becomes "ethnic"? Hip-hop, house, techno, blues and rock are all ethnic American music, but you'd never refer to them as such.

I'm currently hyper-sensitive to this issue, having recently read Orientalism by Edward Said. I've just noticed how people never ascribe "ethnic" to any white, Western styles of music even if they're undeniably centred around one area.

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Originally posted by THE_Chris I'll definitely be getting this, even though I've pissed off the entire Moshic forum with my Music Disc thread about the cover

you pissed off? sorry for you, try to be involved in better subject then the album cover, its' all about the music and not about the cover, if you dont' like the cover buy the album in digital format.

Learn more English

I'm not pissed off, they are pissed off with me for saying that. Although the cover IMO is rubbish, its the music that I care about in the end.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Wouldn't that mean that all music with a distinct cultural source becomes "ethnic"? Hip-hop, house, techno, blues and rock are all ethnic American music, but you'd never refer to them as such.

I don't think so. I think that American music can be called ethnic when it contains Indians cultural elements.

Nice samples!

If it's white it's "folk", if it's not white it's "ethnic".

Samples sound amazing... glad to see this style of music is still being made...

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch Samples sound amazing... glad to see this style of music is still being made...

the all album is amazing, im playing it over and over again.
the progressive cd (unmixed)so extraordinary, every track sound different, ther is some trance influence in this one, very moshics' styl but very different from what we used to to hear from him.

the 2cd is absolutely pure high standard,and quality music that no one that i know can make this kind of music.

quality at is best.

some of the samples sound amazing...simply amazing.

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Originally posted by phant0m I don't think so. I think that American music can be called ethnic when it contains Indians cultural elements.

Why do you think that is?

Samples sound really promising.

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Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs Album sounds straight out of 2002... PROG/TRIBAL HOUSE LIVES!!! Glad Moshic didn't jump on the recent sound craze.

+100000000000000000000000000

Wow I thought he died or something(looks like he had a kid?) I hadn't heard anything from him for awhile, thank God Moshic stuck to hits roots on this and didn't jump on the bandwagon. loving the samples so far

Listened to the samples.


Oh my fuck. It's gonna be good.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm currently hyper-sensitive to this issue, having recently read Orientalism by Edward Said. I've just noticed how people never ascribe "ethnic" to any white, Western styles of music even if they're undeniably centred around one area.

I know exactly what you mean. When I first read Orientalism a few years ago my eyes opened up. That single book have forever changed my perception of ethnicity and culture. I remember that I once stepped into a store which was called "Oriental food and spices" and told the manager that the name of his store was disturbing.

Anyway I can recommend a book by Saids friend, Joseph Massad. It's called "Desiring Arabs" and was recently published. If you liked Orientalism this one will indeed be of your taste.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I know exactly what you mean. When I first read Orientalism a few years ago my eyes opened up. That single book have forever changed my perception of ethnicity and culture. I remember that I once stepped into a store which was called "Oriental food and spices" and told the manager that the name of his store was disturbing. Anyway I can recommend a book by Saids friend, Joseph Massad. It's called "Desiring Arabs" and was recently published. If you liked Orientalism this one will indeed be of your taste.

It's not that I liked it, because I had to read it, but it certainly makes a strong point and you can see evidence for it everywhere after you've read it. I wrote an essay applying it to Enigma's music.

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Originally posted by MR STROKE +100000000000000000000000000 Wow I thought he died or something(looks like he had a kid?) I hadn't heard anything from him for awhile, thank God Moshic stuck to hits roots on this and didn't jump on the bandwagon. loving the samples so far

You haven't been paying attention much then, he's been pretty consistent with the pace of his releases.

... looking forward to this release. Samples sound mint!

This is TOOO good,all songs are simply amazing!!

Just thought I'd let everyone know, it's out on BP as of today

*crates*

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