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Posted by lawrenceq on Mar-13-2008 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
trance puts hands in the air

LOL

Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-13-2008 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Agree completely. Especially the House part. I sometimes skim through the Events section, and shake my head cause it's like 10 House events to every other genre combined.

Well that's what you get for thinking TA is the center of the party universe.

There's a shitload of other events going on at any given time that have nothing to do with TA, and cater to a multitude of tastes.

Just because it isn't advertised on TA, doesn't mean it isn't happening somewhere.

Posted by LKD on Mar-13-2008 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Well that's what you get for thinking TA is the center of the party universe.

There's a shitload of other events going on at any given time that have nothing to do with TA, and cater to a multitude of tastes.

Just because it isn't advertised on TA, doesn't mean it isn't happening somewhere.

really???? thats absurd....all this time ive been missing out on parties cos they arent on TA

FUCK

Posted by activate on Mar-13-2008 00:45:

Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by spiderpig
Making it as a DJ, what would you say is the split formula?

I'm thinking (especially in Toronto) it's:

75% dick sucking
25% talent

* This reflects the present time obviously. I'm sure if i asked myself this question a few years back it would be different.

Thoughts?

50% talent
50% who knows you.

if you want gigs you have to be able to mix, play half decent music, be a scenster, have lots of friends and be able to get people to come see you play.

You could be the best DJ in the world, but if no one knows who you are and you can only bring 5 people out to see you, then where's the motivation for a promoter to book you? I want people that will bring either through promoting their gigs or through recognition of their name.. and when i say promoting their gigs, I don't mean doing the job of the promoter, but at least make a minimal effort to promote what you do.. call/email/invite your freinds on facebook or something. Pretty much every DJ in the city does this. even the ones with regular gigs do it.

Good DJ's promote themselves. hell even the big boys list their gigs on their websites, myspace etc, mailing lists etc...

Posted by jpgrdnr on Mar-13-2008 00:46:

Making it as a DJ, what would you say is the split formula?

It depends on what you mean by "making it." As a full-time career choice
I'd say a lot of self-sacrifice, hard work, and working in clubs/venues
that you have no desire to spin in or spinning Top 40, whatever the club wants. Probably a certain degree of business savvy with a hint of accounting wouldn't hurt. Networking probably is the majority of what it takes to be successful.

Personally, I just like the idea that if a bunch of people can party and have good time to your set, if you can dance to it...you've made it.

I think its somewhere around 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration.

Posted by Dave Akermanis on Mar-13-2008 00:56:

Re: Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by activate
50% talent
50% who knows you.

if you want gigs you have to be able to mix, play half decent music, be a scenster, have lots of friends and be able to get people to come see you play.

You could be the best DJ in the world, but if no one knows who you are and you can only bring 5 people out to see you, then where's the motivation for a promoter to book you? I want people that will bring either through promoting their gigs or through recognition of their name.. and when i say promoting their gigs, I don't mean doing the job of the promoter, but at least make a minimal effort to promote what you do.. call/email/invite your freinds on facebook or something. Pretty much every DJ in the city does this. even the ones with regular gigs do it.

Good DJ's promote themselves. hell even the big boys list their gigs on their websites, myspace etc, mailing lists etc...

If you are actually talented and you work hard, and grind long enough, it doesnt matter how much of a scenester or not you are, how many dicks you suck... you will get noticed eventually.

oh yea... and production helps too...

see you on beatport cock suckers!

Posted by DJ Robben on Mar-13-2008 01:05:

Re: Re: Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Akermanis

see you on beatport cock suckers!

/Thread.

Posted by kotsy on Mar-13-2008 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
alot of attitude in this forum..

fixed

Posted by activate on Mar-13-2008 01:07:

Re: Re: Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Akermanis
If you are actually talented and you work hard, and grind long enough, it doesnt matter how much of a scenester or not you are, how many dicks you suck... you will get noticed eventually.

oh yea... and production helps too...

see you on beatport cock suckers!

work hard at what? practicing in your living room?
think what you want that doesn't get you gigs. I've been in this scene for almost a decade and a half now and have seen more good DJs than i could ever rememeber come and go... or never actually come in the first place.

production defintely helps, and if you actually have talent then you will prob get noticed and get some gigs out of it.

But as we all know, 95% of beatport is shit music made by people no one has ever heard of.

Posted by DJ Robben on Mar-13-2008 01:09:

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quote:
Originally posted by activate
work hard at what? practicing in your living room?
think what you want that doesn't get you gigs. I've been in this scene for almost a decade and a half now and have seen more good DJs than i could ever rememeber come and go... or never actually come in the first place.

production defintely helps, and if you actually have talent then you will prob get noticed and get some gigs out of it.

But as we all know, 95% of beatport is shit music made by people no one has ever heard of.

Yea, i jumped the gun on the /thread.

You bring up a fantastic point.

being a flash in the pan is one thing, but continuously being on top, or near the top, in your local scene/internationally. Is something completely different.

Posted by Dave Akermanis on Mar-13-2008 01:22:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by activate
work hard at what? practicing in your living room?
think what you want that doesn't get you gigs. I've been in this scene for almost a decade and a half now and have seen more good DJs than i could ever rememeber come and go... or never actually come in the first place.

production defintely helps, and if you actually have talent then you will prob get noticed and get some gigs out of it.

But as we all know, 95% of beatport is shit music made by people no one has ever heard of.

What i mean to say is:

Work hard at promoting yourself and getting your material out there where people will see it. Do what you have to make sure you get noticed. You don't have to suck dick to get noticed.

And while the majority of music on beatport is shit music by nobodys, thats why there are trusted labels producing quality music. Its a brand name you can trust!

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Mar-13-2008 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Well that's what you get for thinking TA is the center of the party universe.

There's a shitload of other events going on at any given time that have nothing to do with TA, and cater to a multitude of tastes.

Just because it isn't advertised on TA, doesn't mean it isn't happening somewhere.

My point was that House is the Trance of TranceAddict.

Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-13-2008 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
My point was that House is the Trance of TranceAddict.

Ah, my mistake.

*tips hat*

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Mar-13-2008 01:51:

No harm done.

*tips cock*

Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Mar-13-2008 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Ah, my mistake.

*tips hat*

Don't worry...I missed it too.

Posted by Ub3rBreaker on Mar-13-2008 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by lawrenceq
whatev, fagatron.

did he? yeah... he did

Posted by activate on Mar-13-2008 02:00:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Akermanis
What i mean to say is:

Work hard at promoting yourself and getting your material out there where people will see it. Do what you have to make sure you get noticed. You don't have to suck dick to get noticed.

And while the majority of music on beatport is shit music by nobodys, thats why there are trusted labels producing quality music. Its a brand name you can trust!

so then you agree with me and took the sucking dick thing literally?

Posted by Dave Akermanis on Mar-13-2008 02:17:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by activate
so then you agree with me and took the sucking dick thing literally?

It's just that there are a handful of revolting examples in this city

Many talented people as well of course.

I think the crux of what I am saying is that you shouldnt have to cross your own moral/ethical boundaries to make it, or feel like you've cheapened yourself.

Posted by SgtFoo on Mar-13-2008 02:24:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
its all about developing ur "closeness" with 4 main cliques if ur not at every single party with these cliques (which include these djs) and keep reminding them how awesome they are, it really aint easy getting a decent gig in town....

ive seen some really talented djs just phase out not by choice but because they kept trying to get gigs and didnt adhere to the above policy...

PS. in addition, if it aint ONLY house u play, dont even bother (house + any other genre is a big NO NO as well...diversity is unacceptable)

genious posting my friend.

while I agree with most of what you said here, there are exceptions.
The unmentionned exceptions I speak of, will eventually seperate the real dogs from the big dogs... and THEN... and only THEN... will the dick sucking become 99% irrelevant.

Posted by SgtFoo on Mar-13-2008 02:35:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Akermanis

It's just that there are a handful of revolting examples in this city
that's unfortunately a HUGE understatement

Many talented people as well of course.
lets tip our hats to those who didn't have to suck any dicks

I think the crux of what I am saying is that you shouldnt have to cross your own moral/ethical boundaries to make it, or feel like you've cheapened yourself.
very well said

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Mar-13-2008 02:38:

I guess gay DJs have it really easy then.

Posted by kotsy on Mar-13-2008 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I guess gay DJs have it really easy then.

HA!!

Posted by Dave Akermanis on Mar-13-2008 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I guess gay DJs have it really easy then.

Mike... THATS the /thread....

Posted by 1dawoman on Mar-13-2008 03:25:

Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by spiderpig
Making it as a DJ, what would you say is the split formula?
I'm thinking (especially in Toronto) it's:
75% dick sucking
25% talent

How is this different than in any other division of the music industry?....

Posted by LKD on Mar-13-2008 03:27:

Re: Re: Talent vs. Personality

quote:
Originally posted by 1dawoman
How is this different than in any other division of the music industry?....

i just hate when people go about music as an industry

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