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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 Agreed 100%. Bully wasn't entirely successful, which warranted their "special edition" re-releasing (read: the title wasn't successful the first time around, so spread it to more consoles to hopefully gain more sales), Table Tennis on 360 dropped off the map after only a few weeks on the shelves. I guess The Warriors on PS2 went pretty well, but nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE near GTA-status. GTA is their baby and probably the main reason they are still considered a high-profile developer.

I'm still fairly sure that the Warriors lost them money as well - which was a shame, because even though it wasn't a "revolutionary" game by any stretch, it was nice to see a brawler that felt classic be revived in such an interesting way by R*.

This game looks so amazingly great.

Move over Chrono Trigger

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 Agreed 100%. Bully wasn't entirely successful, which warranted their "special edition" re-releasing (read: the title wasn't successful the first time around, so spread it to more consoles to hopefully gain more sales), Table Tennis on 360 dropped off the map after only a few weeks on the shelves. I guess The Warriors on PS2 went pretty well, but nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE near GTA-status. GTA is their baby and probably the main reason they are still considered a high-profile developer.

You guys are forgeting Max Payne 1\2 and Manhunt (although its been a while since their release)

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Originally posted by Viber You guys are forgeting Max Payne 1\2 and Manhunt (although its been a while since their release)

Max Payne was 3D Realms, I believe. They are owned by the same parent company as R*, Take-Two Interactive, though, so you weren't really that far off.

Can't believe I forgot about Manhunt, however it should be noted that this game has been nothing but trouble for the people at R*. Several lawsuits, it's original AO rating it received back during Summer 07 (which caused a 3 month delay that practically destroyed its sales potential and elongated the development process, financially hurting the entire company even more), and, in the end, lackluster sales, all did not contribute very many positives.

GTA4 is really R*'s saving grace. Obviously, it will be a smash-hit and will likely recoup the millions spent on development costs. The question is, will R* ever be able to make another franchise that will be anywhere near as successful?

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Originally posted by RJT I'm still fairly sure that the Warriors lost them money as well - which was a shame, because even though it wasn't a "revolutionary" game by any stretch, it was nice to see a brawler that felt classic be revived in such an interesting way by R*.

I didn't really get to play it too much, but I have some friends who picked it up, so I did get to at least watch it in action. It had a very old-school flair to it that seems to be missing in a lot of today's games. Like you said, it was nothing really "new", but rather a retread to olden days of simplistic gaming when it wasn't about complicated storylines and confusing control schemes, but rather a few buttons and a whole lotta ass kicking.

Pre-ordered a ps3 copy from my local Ebgames shop. The only two games that i have ever pre-ordered are San Andreas and this, there is just something about those GTA games.

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