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Posted by Project-K on Apr-02-2008 02:44:

I still have my original box with the gazillion floppy discs


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-02-2008 02:51:

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Originally posted by Project-K
I still have my original box with the gazillion floppy discs


awesome! my original copy i actually stole. no, not lazy torrents, i walked into the store and walked out without paying haha. then i bought the collectors edition. which stopped working when 95 was the norm

also, i now notice that its actually the x-wing collectors series. with x wing, tie fighter collectors & X wing V TF. cool.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-03-2008 00:47:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
re: health bars in games- the ironic thing is that the removal of the bar is actually less realistic because there's no way to gauge how damaged you are. obviously IRL, you can look down and check out where your torso used to be and think "rightyo, i might take this corner more carefully.."

its fucking stupid. its a game.


In The Getaway, your guy would limp and run slower if he was severely hurt, though I see your point. Keep the health bar I say, but don't let that bitch recharge unless you got yourself a medkit or something.


Posted by Project-K on Apr-03-2008 01:23:

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
your guy would limp and run slower


Deus ex


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-03-2008 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
Deus ex


Didn't Deus Ex have a health bar, though?


Posted by Project-K on Apr-03-2008 03:05:

Not quite. The green bar in the hud was your bio-electric reserves. The health system was a diagram of a body where individual body parts had their own hit points and could be damaged independantly. For instance you could have both legs severely damaged and as a result you'd have to crawl until you found a medkit. You could also use the medkits to heal specific wounds - for example, prioritizing a wound to your leg over a wound to your arm.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-03-2008 05:34:

Ahhh yes, how could I forget. Deus Ex, considering it IS one of the best video games ever made, introduced some mindblowing stuff, and its unique health system is no exception. Makes me wanna reinstall that ****** right now.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-04-2008 01:41:

To be honest... I'll work out whether the games I'm looking at are any good (or get recomendations) from (online) friends. Then go look at gamespot for a really in depth review that won't say anything bad about it.

It's better then going to one of those cynical places and hearing a review that critizises everything and then getting pissed off by small things.

Also PCPP has seriously gone downhill in the last 6 months. Seriously they gave vanilla m2tw a 10!!! I guess they somehow failed to notice the very samey factions... limited replayability (not terribly good gameplay either) and MAJOR GAME UNBALANCING bug. I mean it's certainly no Crysis/half life 2 (I'd give it an 8 on first impressions maybe 7 after time). I bet they didn't even touch EU3 (bad ai is ok... until you play a game with good AI... total war battles [at least with mods like RTR on Ntw2 [[eb was shit]] are great though).


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-04-2008 01:50:

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Also PCPP has seriously gone downhill in the last 6 months. Seriously they gave vanilla m2tw a 10!!! I guess they somehow failed to notice the very samey factions... limited replayability (not terribly good gameplay either) and MAJOR GAME UNBALANCING bug.


LOL. PCPP has always been shit.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-04-2008 01:55:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
LOL. PCPP has always been shit.

Please explain?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-04-2008 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Please explain?


as long as PCPP has been around, they've been the uglier, dumber and less accurate cousin of PC gamer. that's just how it is. you're young, i dont expect you to know.


Posted by BTG on Apr-06-2008 09:38:

i used to read pc gamer.

i duno if their still good, but i remember they were tough enough to make sure i didn't buy any stupid games.



as for today and internet media, just look at the whole 'kane and lynch' review for gamespot. they gave it a generous 6. something, and they still fired the guy, because he was supposed to give it a higher score (so says internet rumors).

i still find gamespy a pretty decent site for reviews, even though they gave halo 3 a 5, other 'popular titles' like assassins creed and army of two a 3/3.5 out of 5, which is decent, but not amazing.


Posted by Fledz on Apr-07-2008 08:09:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
as long as PCPP has been around, they've been the uglier, dumber and less accurate cousin of PC gamer. that's just how it is. you're young, i dont expect you to know.

Really? Hmmm...I've been reading it since pretty much the beginning and always liked it more.

PC Gamer was good but always seemed a bit sterile to me and I couldn't connect with what the writers were saying. Mind you that was a while ago and I haven't read a PC Gamer in ages.

PCPP has definitely gone downhill a bit. They've focused too much on the entertainment and money aspect of the business (as the OP was getting at originally) and some of their reviews are just plain bad. I get disappointed when I read a 4 page review and then realize that they haven't actually said anything of substance in the entire review

Their forums are much better. Real people with real feedback.

I guess you just get used to a certain source and automatically filter things out. It's akin to a producer and their set of monitors. A guy with shit monitors can still produce a much better result if he knows how they sound inside and out, as opposed to someone with the best set of speakers ever, yet virtually no experience with them.

I read PCPP and IGN for my quick info. PCPP being bad is debatable and well IGN isn't exactly great either (I'm sure we're all aware of that) but I'm used to them and know what to expect.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-07-2008 09:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Really? Hmmm...I've been reading it since pretty much the beginning and always liked it more.


to be fair im not sure if im talking about the US or UK Gamer, its been too long since i read a magazine. i always felt pcpp gave games overated scores, but obviously that could just be me. the more likely scenario would be that you're just wrong

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
PC Gamer was good but always seemed a bit sterile to me and I couldn't connect with what the writers were saying.


right. so you like your male gaming nerds to be virile. gotcha.

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
PCPP has definitely gone downhill a bit. They've focused too much on the entertainment and money aspect of the business (as the OP was getting at originally) and some of their reviews are just plain bad. I get disappointed when I read a 4 page review and then realize that they haven't actually said anything of substance in the entire review


like you i dont read mags much anymore, but i might go to the newsagent tomorrow and check out some at lunch. see how they're faring.

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
I guess you just get used to a certain source and automatically filter things out.


excellent point.

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
I read PCPP and IGN for my quick info. PCPP being bad is debatable and well IGN isn't exactly great either (I'm sure we're all aware of that) but I'm used to them and know what to expect.


i just read the IGN review for forged alliance and it was pretty much 100% correct. i really dont think the PC guys are as bad as the console reviewers. the PC has far fewer games to review, less to look forward to etc. i think IGN are head and shoulders above GS as online reviewers go.

as for pcpp being pc gamer's ugly cousin, i'll wager that when you started reading pcpp you were too young and inexperienced to tell it was shit


Posted by Fledz on Apr-07-2008 09:16:

Well I would have been like what, 11? And now I'm 21 so possibly but like I said, you get used to it. I'd still say it's not shit but meh, each to their own and all that

Oh and yea, I love my virile male gaming nerds, just like you love your chronically depressed early teen boys


Posted by Philby on Apr-07-2008 13:16:

go hyper
i used to have a subscription to them


Posted by biznology on Apr-07-2008 17:03:

Next Generation was one i subscribed to back in the day, pretty forward thinking...but i have a feeling most of it was fluff. there was some pretty interesting stuff there tho.

cant even find a cover image on google, but i do remember they covered the shit outta Tresspasser and look how that turned out|


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