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Posted by Orko on Apr-01-2008 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
im sure this is an april fools joke


Man you cannot joke around like this, especially if you are a newspaper, and especially if you are a newspaper in England. This is career/life ending stuff.

All credible sources have confirmed this is a real story, but nobody has been able to confirm if it is Max or not.


Posted by Yohan on Apr-01-2008 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I like how they paint his father as a "friend of Hitler." Sir Oswald Mosely could not really be characterized as a friend of Hitler's. I believe the two men met one time (at Mosely's wedding). I met a few relatives of Mrs. Hazard once at my wedding, I would hardly consider them friends. I suppose this is just one more element of sensationalizm.

Very easy to prejudice however, and more believable, considering Mosley was pretty much the top British fascist during WW2.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Apr-01-2008 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
Very easy to prejudice however, and more believable, considering Mosley was pretty much the top British fascist during WW2.


No doubt... O. Mosley was a fascist; however, to call him a friend of Hitler is a streatch. Some may even question if he was really a fascist... I mean the British Union of Fascists was the second polictical party he had started in less then a decade and the fourth that he was a member of. Moreover, the BUF changed ideological stances rather frequently... "we're not anti-semitic"... "oh, what was that... we aren't gaining support... hmmm hating the jews worked for Hitler, maybe it will work for us... OKAY, we now officially hate the jews." It would be more accurate to call Mosley a political opportunist who thought that fascism was his ticket to power.


Posted by Flec on Apr-01-2008 19:39:

theres no good reason to have nazi fantasies


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Apr-01-2008 19:48:

Re: Head of F1 racing involved in orgy with nazi dressed prostitutes...

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
He should resign from the sport."

ok there


Posted by Orko on Apr-01-2008 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
All credible sources have confirmed this is a real story, but nobody has been able to confirm if it is Max or not.


Well, confirmed by Autosport (the most credible source in motor racing).
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66276

quote:
Originally by Max Mosley
Regrettably you are now familiar with the results of this covert investigation and I am very sorry if this has embarrassed you or the club. Not content with publicising highly personal and private activities, which are, to say the least, embarrassing, a British tabloid newspaper published the story with the claim that there was some sort of Nazi connotation to the matter. This is entirely false.


Posted by capo tutti di on Apr-01-2008 22:47:

When is Fascism, Nazism??

I mean I'm not necessarily for either side, but plenty of Europe still has a very very very strong fascist following.

In Rome of all places its very prevalent, openly shown by even Soccer players, as pictured by a Lazio player below.








Posted by zydus on Apr-02-2008 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by capo tutti di
When is Fascism, Nazism??

I mean I'm not necessarily for either side, but plenty of Europe still has a very very very strong fascist following.

In Rome of all places its very prevalent, openly shown by even Soccer players, as pictured by a Lazio player below.









He was a brilliant player though :-) deserved more credit


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-02-2008 02:13:


Posted by capo tutti di on Apr-02-2008 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by zydus
He was a brilliant player though :-) deserved more credit



LOL ya!!!

crazy documentary on fascism in rome and alot to do with lazio


Posted by Yohan on Apr-02-2008 04:11:

generally, I'd equate nazism as fascism + racism

fascism at its core ideology is ultra nationalistic, but not racist. (well, in most cases)


Posted by Moral Hazard on Apr-02-2008 12:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
generally, I'd equate nazism as fascism + racism

fascism at its core ideology is ultra nationalistic, but not racist. (well, in most cases)


While Fascism and Nazism share many things: corportist economy, strong social wellfare systems, strong central government, etc. there are many things they do not share. Racism, cultism and eugenics are unique to Nazism. I would also disagree with you that fascism is "ultra nationalistic." Nazism was definately ultra nationalistic, as was the Spanish and Italian fascist parties; however, the nationalistic bent was not so important with the British Union of Fascists or the Greek version of fascism. Moreover, most modern fascist movements don't have much of a nationalistic component... in fact, I would argue that the most successful modern fascist organisation is the EU, which is most certainly pan-national.


Posted by RobotHouse on Apr-02-2008 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
generally, I'd equate nazism as fascism + racism

fascism at its core ideology is ultra nationalistic, but not racist. (well, in most cases)


i dont think theres much debate that these nazis whores were both racist and fascist


Posted by phlog on Apr-02-2008 20:17:

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Posted by Abercrombie on Apr-02-2008 21:19:

I lost non-Jewish family in the war, and I do find it offensive.

It's easy to jump to conclusions if these things didn't happen to you.

You would feel the same if it happened to your family. Please show some sensitivity.

AJ /out.


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