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Posted by MarkT on Apr-04-2008 23:55:

I would *love* to ditch Rogers...but Bell still doesn't offer HD in condos yet. I know Bell is just as big and evil, but Rogers has just pissed me off too many times.

I mainly watch sports in HD and some movies...so what kind of service do you get with these other options? I see the channel listings, but can you still get regular cable tv or just local content?

I know jack shit about satellite and alternate providers. I used to have one of those boxes to hack PPV, TMN and all that, back in the day, lol...but that's about it.


Posted by Abercrombie on Apr-04-2008 23:59:

FK all of that!

Like Bobby said... ROOF ANTENNA FTW! 100% uncompressed and it's all FREE.

I'm very happy with my quality vs. quantity.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-05-2008 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i personally run two non-hd fta receivers. i know people that have the viewsat9000hd receiver and they have it running nicely. the concept in setting them up is the EXACT same as setting up my receivers. i was in the satellite "hacking" business many years ago so i think i would know more than the average person.


wanna have a FTA/sat-hacking quiz-off?..lol

I have 5 dishes and thinking of adding more

Great advice. I have been running 2 FTAs for years now, had a dishnetwork receiver before, and the directv which was the best

are you getting any globecast? I love my globecast programming..


Posted by loca on Apr-05-2008 00:14:

Duopoly FTL


Posted by phlog on Apr-05-2008 00:17:

quote:
Originally posted by NuERA
sounds like something bell would do


you do realize that rogers has been fucking customers over (with regards to bandwidth) for longer than bell, right?


Posted by chinamon on Apr-05-2008 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
wanna have a FTA/sat-hacking quiz-off?..lol

I have 5 dishes and thinking of adding more

Great advice. I have been running 2 FTAs for years now, had a dishnetwork receiver before, and the directv which was the best

are you getting any globecast? I love my globecast programming..


i havent bothered with globecast since its international programming and i dont care for that. i havent done much research on that so i dont know what their lineup of chinese channels are.

i started my satellite hobby back in the HU days (not long after dave killed the H stream) with an rca drd420 ird. shortly after that i met the right people and started my satellite business. eventually i expanded to dishnet and bev running 1000, 2700 and 301/3100 (also a 5800 for a little while) mostly on plastic (rom3 and rom10) and atmega.

then i bought a pansat 2700a near the end of the nagra1 stream but hated it. the epg sucked total ass, it was slow and epg couldnt be sorted by SID. a lot has changed with fta receivers since then as they seem to be designed more for the digital thief than legit free-to-air users.

dtv was the best because it was cheap and didnt require much knowledge. reading/writing/unlooping was childs play. dishnet was more technical since their ecm's were more sophisticated (ie. tsop ecm) and that required the user to install a digital lock. jtagging the receiver for boxkeys and backing up the tsop in case of something happening to it. but fta simplified it.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-05-2008 01:32:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i havent bothered with globecast since its international programming and i dont care for that. i havent done much research on that so i dont know what their lineup of chinese channels are.

i started my satellite hobby back in the HU days (not long after dave killed the H stream) with an rca drd420 ird. shortly after that i met the right people and started my satellite business. eventually i expanded to dishnet and bev running 1000, 2700 and 301/3100 (also a 5800 for a little while) mostly on plastic (rom3 and rom10) and atmega.

then i bought a pansat 2700a near the end of the nagra1 stream but hated it. the epg sucked total ass, it was slow and epg couldnt be sorted by SID. a lot has changed with fta receivers since then as they seem to be designed more for the digital thief than legit free-to-air users.

dtv was the best because it was cheap and didnt require much knowledge. reading/writing/unlooping was childs play. dishnet was more technical since their ecm's were more sophisticated (ie. tsop ecm) and that required the user to install a digital lock. jtagging the receiver for boxkeys and backing up the tsop in case of something happening to it. but fta simplified it.


Yeah i loved the H card days until Black Sunday and then the HU days were great as well.

Oh man I forgot all about the atmega card I had...lol...fun times..

Yeah the epg sucked ass during the nagra1 days. Now with the latest viewsats and sonicviews I am very pleased with the epg. I have yet to give in to buying an HD receiver though. It just too much damn cash + getting a hard drive to use as a 'tivo'...but it is on my list.

If you are into sports there Sentanta sports on globecast is a great channel. Great channel during the euro/world cups and champions leage...pretty much any major soccer tournament. they broadcast alot of games. you do need a larger dish though..


Posted by kitchTA on Apr-05-2008 03:12:

Has anyone else noticed that rogers has all ready removed some HDTV channels..

Im not sure what my HD package is called but at the beginning of January channels like: Discovery HD, and Show case HD, had a message that read something along the lines of,

" As of February 1st, this channel will not be offered with your current package.."





Does anyone else think it is ridiculous that a TV provider decreases the number of channels

they provide, or am i just crazy???? (or is this to be expected from rogers?)


Posted by VDub on Apr-05-2008 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
nope. get yourself a free-to-air HD receiver with an 8psk module (viewsat 9000 HD is recommended). the only other way is to hack the dish vip 211 receiver which requires you to swap the tsop chips, pull the internal rom chip and mount it on a bga board, activate the card slow and unlock the bga card. however, i think subscription cloning is the only hack available for the vip series of receivers at the moment so that idea is down the shitter.

get a fta hd receiver and set up dishes for nimiq1 (known as 91 west for expressvu) for bell's main channel lineup, nimiq2 (known as 82 west for expressvu) mainly for expressvu hd, echostar8,10 (known as 110 west for dishnet) for half of dishnet's main channel lineup, echostar7 (119 west for dishnet) for the other half of dishnet's main channel lineup, and echostar5 (129 west for dishnet) for hd. the you're laughing cuz you will have probably over 2000 channels to watch all on the same receiver.


What a nerd...


Posted by tvmann on Apr-07-2008 05:46:

I'm wondering if a lot of the standard definition (SD) channels we have now will be removed and go out of business, because there's just not enough bandwidth on the cable and satellite systems when more channels are converted to HDTV.


Posted by chinamon on Apr-07-2008 07:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
Yeah i loved the H card days until Black Sunday and then the HU days were great as well.

Oh man I forgot all about the atmega card I had...lol...fun times..

Yeah the epg sucked ass during the nagra1 days. Now with the latest viewsats and sonicviews I am very pleased with the epg. I have yet to give in to buying an HD receiver though. It just too much damn cash + getting a hard drive to use as a 'tivo'...but it is on my list.

If you are into sports there Sentanta sports on globecast is a great channel. Great channel during the euro/world cups and champions leage...pretty much any major soccer tournament. they broadcast alot of games. you do need a larger dish though..


the cheapest way to get pvr is with a fta receiver that accepts usb hard drive like my viewsat pro. just plug in an IDE hard drive in a usb enclosure and im good to go. i just gotta get off my lazy ass and go to the store.

as for globecast, i dont watch any sports. i know that i can pick up craploads of international channels (chinese, russian, polish, persian, etc) with dishnet 118west but meh. not interested. globecast uses the 33" dish right? those things are so damn ugly.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-07-2008 13:53:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
its definitely fun.... but its addicting.
i had so much satellite tv in my house at one point, my dad was flipping out. lol. you should see the four dishes on my house. they are at the front of my house so everyone on my street knows i test satellite.

edit:




very chinese of you.


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