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Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Apr-06-2008 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
It sounds as shit as we'd all predicted. Now everyone that was getting landed on for trashing it before they heard it and therefore "knew nothing about how it would actually sound" can feel wholly vindicated.

*looks at ocean_drive, 8wonders, stino, k4sp4 and crew




Horses for courses.

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
this is even worse than I expected.
out of these samples, not a single decent tune.
the vocals are all horrible. is it really that difficult to find a decent vocalist? seriously, the vocals in track 7
What was Armin thinking?


I'm surprised you think like that. /sarcasm


Posted by Neon Sky on Apr-06-2008 22:10:

those vocals are terrible. But then again I wasn't expecting anything else but crap.


Posted by RebeL9 on Apr-06-2008 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_

I'm surprised you think like that. /sarcasm


I'm surprised that you quoted me.


Posted by Dan1584 on Apr-06-2008 22:37:

"Unforgiveable" and "Rain" are ok on their own, semi-cheesey vocals but catchy non-the-less... I think they could be remixed and be a lot better. One thing about "Rain" though, what the hell is with the euro dance epic synth? I swear that sounded like old Green Court or DJ Sammy type synth work.

For me, "In And Out Of Love" was the best vocal for me on the album... yes once again it's cheese, but the melody is nice, the breakbeat (cheesey but...) works, it's effective enough.

I prefered his last album if I had to choose, but oh well. I didn't think his last album was horrid, def mainstreamed but not horrid if you view it as a more mainstream release. This one is sub-par at best no matter which perspective you use to view it.


Posted by josh rising on Apr-06-2008 23:49:

track 3 actually sounds pretty good, minus the vocals. same with track 4, although i didn't hear any vocals in that one. is track 5 the one with audrey gallagher? pretty awful. track 6 actually sounds pretty good too, the vocals included. i love how he blasts dj sammy in that one vid, but track 7 sounds pretty similar to 'heaven' at least.

onto the next vid... track 8 is pretty lame, it sounds dated and like it should be on a ministry of sound compilation album from 2001/2002, it seriously does. the bassline is alright, if not predictable. track 9 is just bad, doesn't even feel like music. feels like noise with a voice on top of it. track 10, oh god, jennifer rene. no thanks.

in conclusion, i guess i like 3, 4 and 6, based on these samples alone. judging from the tracklist on the other thread, i guess those are 'unforgivable', 'face to face', and 'in & out of love'. the rest are pretty much what i was expecting (read: shit), but i'm surprised i actually do like 3 of them.


Posted by PETRAN on Apr-07-2008 01:14:

OMG, this is euro-dance frenzy...i mean seriously...i doubt that anyone calls this "trance"...


Track-1 is soap-opera opening theme, quite laughable if one thinks the context..

Track-2 sounds like an 80s cheesy full-on power-ballad without the 80s awesomeness. Instead we get terrible euro-dance/pseudo-saw-trance production. Thanks but i'll prefer ultravox or tears for fears.


Track-3: Cliche female vocals and seriosuly...how MANY TIMES have you listened to this bloody simple ascending chord progression? I guess that it first appeared in 1994 or smthg. "Unforgivable" indeed!

Track-4: Oh boy was i wrong...did i mention a "cliche ascending chord progression" for the previous track? How wrong was i! This IS indeed the epitome of "standard-trancelead-by-numbers-accompanied-by-standard-FLStudio-Preset"
This is the kind of track that you make by putting some random ascending notes in FL, concluding that "it sounds good enough considering the newb that iam"

Track-5: This is so horrid...supra-cheesy almost helium female vocals with modern farty-electro bass, conjuring nightmarish images of the "Anthem"... How bad can it get...i mean seriously...

This is NOT about trance. I thing that we established that this has nothing to do with trance or whatsoever. This is JUST BAD POP music. I mean its not even good as a kind of pop... Depeche Mode make "pop" as well and i can assure that it has nothing to do with this garbage!


Track-6: "yourr eyeess aree hauuntiiinggg meeee baaabbyyy faalllingg in loooveee" -type of pop music enough said.

Track-7: "Wheenn everyythingg is lossttt prrromiisee meee thaatt youu will stayyy withh meee babbyyyy neveerr say neeeverrr"-type of pop music nough said.

(Well, with some random generic techy chords thrown in because deep techy chords are cool again and Armin actually listens to Terry Lee Brown Jr. a lot lately).


Track-8: "Raaiinnn in thee raaainnn" ccompanied by the cool 2002 MASSIVE RANK-1 SUPER-SAW NASTY RIFF! Yeeeaahh! Its the primary Dutch super-saw sound, you all know what i mean...the melody ofcourse sounds like it is taken from that period. the only track i like its great fun! Dj Tatana 4 Life!)


Track-9: Female vocals speaking random stuff which i don't care embedded within a deep/techy production because Armin likes to listen to Terry Lee Brown Jr. lately and techy stuff are cool again.


Track-10: interesting synth-work BUT accompanied with female vocals of random quality that go like this: "ii giiveee youu myy heaartt i'mm finee withouttt youuu nowwww babyy" nough said.


Track-11: Oh yes the end-of-the-night anthem! This is the only track that sounds like proper "epic/anthemic" trance. Drawback? The random, generic lead-line which i thing i've heard at LEAST a trillion times before. So, not good.



I have to say that these statements were based in the Youtube samples.I have the impression though that the full tracks wont have anything extra. I think that it is pretty clear (from the samples) that this is a "synth-pop" album, and what terrible synth-pop it is (i would rather say "euro-dance"or "euro-pop"). Its kinda bad actually thinking that Armin had the potential to do great stuff. Considering past tracks like "Blue Fear" and "Clear Blue Moon" one would thing that Armin could at least be a great producer of epic/anthem trance. Instead for that he opted for the high life of a pop-star. I wander if this kind of euro-dance music will sell though. Such an album in the era of Ian Van Dahl would indeed sell, but i wander who is going to buy this music in our times.




2/10.


Posted by wotyzoid on Apr-07-2008 01:50:

ew, talk about lack of originality..


Posted by nefardec on Apr-07-2008 01:54:

just listened

it's soulless radio teletubby trance. i seriously think that his marketing team is targeting the 13-17 market and trying to hook them while they are young in an attempt to sow the club market so he can still be reaping it in 5 years when they are old enough to go to his clusterfucks

and what's worse, at least half of the tracks are ripoffs of ian van dahl tracks. #8 - blatantly rips off superstring (rank 1 remix)

seriously disgusting

the only place it belongs is the ellen degeneres show



it makes me want to club baby seals and ponies


will the delusion finally disappear after this? it's so blatantly terrible. I don't understand how anyone could continue to use the word 'trance' in regards to his music.

fuck i hate this

i just fucking hate this so much


edit:

fuck

i've got more originality in my foreskin


Posted by PETRAN on Apr-07-2008 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
just listened

it's soulless radio teletubby trance. i seriously think that his marketing team is targeting the 13-17 market and trying to hook them while they are young in an attempt to sow the club market so he can still be reaping it in 5 years when they are old enough to go to his clusterfucks

and what's worse, at least half of the tracks are ripoffs of ian van dahl tracks. #8 - blatantly rips off superstring (rank 1 remix)

seriously disgusting

the only place it belongs is the ellen degeneres show



it makes me want to club baby seals and ponies


will the delusion finally disappear after this? it's so blatantly terrible. I don't understand how anyone could continue to use the word 'trance' in regards to his music.

fuck i hate this

i just fucking hate this so much


edit:

fuck

i've got more originality in my foreskin





Haha yes thats what i said for track 8 myself, its a Rank-1 ripoff lol (to me it sounds more like "Awakening" then the remix of "supersring". It still has the same sound.)

And yeah, most tracks DO sound like Ian Van Dahl ripoffs. It seems that in Trance.nu hate this album as well! lol...


Posted by hkaliher on Apr-07-2008 02:05:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
It seems that in Trance.nu hate this album as well! lol...


wow then it really sucks


Posted by nefardec on Apr-07-2008 02:27:

I think it is the duty of everyone who has ever enjoyed trance music to send Armin Van Buuren a message decrying this atrocious product, or to post a message on his message board doing so.

Tell him just to stop.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-07-2008 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_


Horses for courses.


I just found it daft that you would be so apt to defend a product that was clearly going to be wretched.


Posted by stan229 on Apr-07-2008 02:51:

one of those pieces of cheese rips off blue fear, not sure which as i was skipping around because i couldn't listen consistently for more than a ocuple of seconds


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-07-2008 02:53:

Heh, he ripped off one of his own tracks?


Posted by CHRles on Apr-07-2008 02:54:

Wowsers! Talk about dripping with Schmaltz. Did Barry Manillow and Celeine Dion write some of these songs or something? And it's a bit of a letdown that in the midst of all these vocals there weren't any Kelly Clarkson records I mean, it clearly sounds like he's going after the American Idol crowd with this one


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-07-2008 02:58:

He should have had Rick Astley do vocals for one of the tracks.


Posted by RapidFire on Apr-07-2008 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
He should have had Rick Astley do vocals for one of the tracks.


dont insult Rick like that.


Posted by CHRles on Apr-07-2008 03:17:

Imagine! One DJ, loads of uninspiring vocals, one night only at some club in Utrecht... Now imagine that DJ sharing the stage with none other then Basshunter and Lord of Bass


Posted by shaminii on Apr-07-2008 03:39:

It sounded like there would be potential till the 1:30 mark, then my head exploded. WTF is this shit?!


Posted by Durrrtysouth on Apr-07-2008 03:59:

Armin fans remind me of Kobe Bryant fans, they are such clouded fanboys and girls that even if Armin made a great album, they are just too annoying to deal with so you just want to see failure.


Posted by Trance O Matic on Apr-07-2008 09:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Branah
as low as it gets...

remember this



LOL


This is a classic. AVB bitching about cheesy trance! It's like Pamela Anderson bitching on fake tits.


Posted by Stino on Apr-07-2008 11:24:

im a little bit disappointed...

to me it seems like the album never takes off to a more uplifting trancey level like his shows or gig do..

i also think that audrey callagher sounds so extremely awful compared to the wonderful voices of sharon and jacqueline from dutch bands within temptation and krezip... the contrast is just too big. Like some1 else said before it sounds like some1 on helium.

I think some tracks have remix potential, but i wonder why all the vocal tracks are so slow and pop/prog trance like instead of some good a&b uplifting style vocal trance.

The last track is very good, that one works

other tracks that sound pretty good as well are: rain, in and out of love , fine without you and that track with jaren.


Posted by lindt on Apr-07-2008 12:36:

Not good at all. Even without vocals they would still be terrible.


Posted by Trance O Matic on Apr-07-2008 13:15:

Those songs are abominations.

The album will probably sell a million copies.

Go Armin.


Posted by Watts on Apr-07-2008 14:47:

I didn't think it was that bad.


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