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Posted by hkaliher on Apr-13-2008 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
well armin is not the best dj in the world is he.


thats why the other djs let him play


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2008 03:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Vern Yip
ok here is my theory on DJing

alot of times DJS put forth these really long intro tracks that it takes like five songs just to get to the heavy stuff. If a song is good like revolver or something then that would be diffrent. then they play like a few good songs and play stuff like for seasons in one day. No offense to the dude that made that Tyas mix. or for example a producer may only play all his own stuff and no one elses and not everyone has solid awesome tracks. But I'm certain I could win a spinoff between any of them. I'll bet money on it.


Either or, you're playing the same shit every other bedroom trance jock has been playing for years. You're not searching for any new, unfound, good music. You are more of the same, and you typify monotony in the sense of musical repertoire. You just don't have the million dollar marketing crew to polish your shitballs to a complacent public.


Posted by RapidFire on Apr-13-2008 03:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
Either or, you're playing the same shit every other bedroom trance jock has been playing for years. You're not searching for any new, unfound, good music. You are more of the same, and you typify monotony in the sense of musical repertoire. You just don't have the million dollar marketing crew to polish your shitballs to a complacent public.


ding ding


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2008 03:58:

believe me when I say this: people either want new shit, or old shit in shiny packaging. You are offering them neither. Pander to the attention span of the public, and you'll get booked.

I mean seriously, Sean fucking Tyas? Really now?

If you continue playing that drivel you'll definitely need shiny packaging.


Posted by hkaliher on Apr-13-2008 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
believe me when I say this: people either want new shit, or old shit in shiny packaging. You are offering them neither. Pander to the attention span of the public, and you'll get booked.

I mean seriously, Sean fucking Tyas? Really now?

If you continue playing that drivel you'll definitely need shiny packaging.


i suggest wearing nothing but a thong that looks like an elephant and you can do the helicopter with his trunk
this may limit you to playing in male strip clubs though


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2008 04:04:

quote:
Originally posted by hkaliher
i suggest wearing nothing but a thong that looks like an elephant and you can do the helicopter with his trunk
this may limit you to playing in male strip clubs though


or Sean Tyas's apartment.


Posted by hkaliher on Apr-13-2008 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
or Sean Tyas's apartment.


ooh ya private parties win


Posted by PETRAN on Apr-13-2008 04:07:

Man seriously, if you want to get famous and stuff, you have to get into producing. Don't expect to be famous and big by just djing, i guess that even innovative, outstanding djs that do crazy mixing stuff by having Ableton and 8 decks playing at the same time don't go big nowadays. There are countless djing that play records and mix, do you expect every single one of those to get famous? Armin got big because he has a long history in production, and even if we like it or not, he produced some legendary tracks like "Blue Fear", "Clear Blue Moon" etc. He didn't get famous just from djing.


You have to make music of your own. And thinking of todays criteria, well, it wouldn't be difficult! Just go produce the new-style flashover-style big-room electro-trance sound and you will go big fast. The steps are easy: Get FL-Studio, make a very big fart sounding bass-line capable of shaking a huge club or event, put some 4 or 8-notes of extra-fat super-saw to play a random melody, the standard trance bit: Umts Umts Umts and hey presto! You have the new anthem! For extra commercial appeal,you can put some vocodered robotic voice with a german accent playing on top repeating a phrase like: "Dis-Is-E-Le-Ctro, Ja"! After doing that you can ofcourse keep your presents and make every other track by using these same sounds ( everyone does it these days!). you can vary the bass and the chords a bit, and/or you can make various phrases with the (can be deep or loose high-pitched) voice (e.g. "Ma-Ster-Bat-Ion-Ha-Ppy-Na-Tion") i tell you you are going to get famous man! Please don't forget us here in TA when you'll go big.


Posted by Vern Yip on Apr-13-2008 04:08:

quote:
Originally posted by hkaliher
thats why the other djs let him play
Ive seen him play once, I thought it was cool. No one stayed though, everyone saw Oakie and Left when Armin Went On. I tell you what I would hate to have to fight that guy.


Posted by Clovis on Apr-13-2008 04:09:

Re: What if a DJ was better than all the other djs

quote:
Originally posted by Vern Yip
What if a DJ was better than all the other djs (trance/house) but no one would let him play.



There is such a DJ, his name is Danny Howells and quite a few people let him mix almost every week.


Posted by Vern Yip on Apr-13-2008 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
Either or, you're playing the same shit every other bedroom trance jock has been playing for years. You're not searching for any new, unfound, good music. You are more of the same, and you typify monotony in the sense of musical repertoire. You just don't have the million dollar marketing crew to polish your shitballs to a complacent public.
this is what I have been doing so that I would remain exposed to everything. go to ajuna and look at playlists and download everything from all the people they are playing at that time this way I get the songs from Ajuna and find out about other tracks that ajuna is not playing. would do the same thing with the armin radio show. trust me I am open to everything as long as it sounds good. your right I have no marketing crew at all. I wish they still had dj crews like back in the day.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2008 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Vern Yip
this is what I have been doing so that I would remain exposed to everything. go to ajuna and look at playlists and download everything from all the people they are playing at that time this way I get the songs from Ajuna and find out about other tracks that ajuna is not playing. would do the same thing with the armin radio show. trust me I am open to everything as long as it sounds good. your right I have no marketing crew at all. I wish they still had dj crews like back in the day.


Anjuna isn't new. Anjuna is shit for the most part as well. That's your problem, you're a dj who doesn't like actually searching for new, untouched music. You're picking the same big-name shitty labels that every other bedroom trancefairy has been purging since vomit existed.

You're failing as a dj in the most pivotal part.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2008 04:14:

also, I can tell from your tracklist that you in no way have a unique sound unless you're recording your bodily functions and looping them over your shit track selection. In which case, noisecore already has you beat I bet.


Posted by RapidFire on Apr-13-2008 04:14:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
For extra commercial appeal,you can put some vocodered robotic voice with a german accent playing on top repeating a phrase like: "Dis-Is-E-Le-Ctro, Ja"! After doing that you can ofcourse keep your presents and make every other track by using these same sounds ( everyone does it these days!). you can vary the bass and the chords a bit, and/or you can make various phrases with the (can be deep or loose high-pitched) voice (e.g. "Ma-Ster-Bat-Ion-Ha-Ppy-Na-Tion") i tell you you are going to get famous man! Please don't forget us here in TA when you'll go big.


brilliant


Posted by Vern Yip on Apr-13-2008 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Man seriously, if you want to get famous and stuff, you have to get into producing. Don't expect to be famous and big by just djing, i guess that even innovative, outstanding djs that do crazy mixing stuff by having Ableton and 8 decks playing at the same time don't go big nowadays. There are countless djing that play records and mix, do you expect every single one of those to get famous? Armin got big because he has a long history in production, and even if we like it or not, he produced some legendary tracks like "Blue Fear", "Clear Blue Moon" etc. He didn't get famous just from djing.


You have to make music of your own. And thinking of todays criteria, well, it wouldn't be difficult! Just go produce the new-style flashover-style big-room electro-trance sound and you will go big fast. The steps are easy: Get FL-Studio, make a very big fart sounding bass-line capable of shaking a huge club or event, put some 4 or 8-notes of extra-fat super-saw to play a random melody, the standard trance bit: Umts Umts Umts and hey presto! You have the new anthem! For extra commercial appeal,you can put some vocodered robotic voice with a german accent playing on top repeating a phrase like: "Dis-Is-E-Le-Ctro, Ja"! After doing that you can ofcourse keep your presents and make every other track by using these same sounds ( everyone does it these days!). you can vary the bass and the chords a bit, and/or you can make various phrases with the (can be deep or loose high-pitched) voice (e.g. "Ma-Ster-Bat-Ion-Ha-Ppy-Na-Tion") i tell you you are going to get famous man! Please don't forget us here in TA when you'll go big.

If I was to get into production I would produce latin dance music it seems to be really really well put together. The vocals kick ass. but if I was to produce I would make stuff that sounds like Crush or homoerotic sounding stuff like z2 I want you or stuff like Ice 794 by Hardy Heller. I just dont groove on that raspy sounding stuff. I want something that sounds so freaking badass when your trashed it is not even funny. like back in the day

to tell you how bad I am at marketing I just made this dj set and it is out of date by far. and it sounds old


Posted by Vern Yip on Apr-13-2008 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
Anjuna isn't new. Anjuna is shit for the most part as well. That's your problem, you're a dj who doesn't like actually searching for new, untouched music. You're picking the same big-name shitty labels that every other bedroom trancefairy has been purging since vomit existed.

You're failing as a dj in the most pivotal part.
ajuna plays unreleased unsigned, self owned productions and other labels music and so does that armada radio show.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2008 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Vern Yip
homoerotic


I've wanted to call alt this entire time, but this sealed the deal. You're an alt.

Though it was pretty obvious to begin with.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2008 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Vern Yip
ajuna plays unreleased unsigned, self owned productions and other labels music and so does that armada radio show.


Anjuna isn't a dj. That's the other thing that's hindering you, you have no idea what you're talking about.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-13-2008 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
You have to make music of your own. And thinking of todays criteria, well, it wouldn't be difficult! Just go produce the new-style flashover-style big-room electro-trance sound and you will go big fast. The steps are easy: Get FL-Studio, make a very big fart sounding bass-line capable of shaking a huge club or event, put some 4 or 8-notes of extra-fat super-saw to play a random melody, the standard trance bit: Umts Umts Umts and hey presto! You have the new anthem!

Like this!:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music...indubitably.mp3

I forgot the farty bass, though.


Posted by Neon Sky on Apr-13-2008 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
I've wanted to call alt this entire time, but this sealed the deal. You're an alt.

Though it was pretty obvious to begin with.


*waits for the "whats an alt" post*


Posted by Vern Yip on Apr-13-2008 04:20:

Re: Re: What if a DJ was better than all the other djs

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
There is such a DJ, his name is Danny Howells and quite a few people let him mix almost every week.
i have a funny story about Danny Howells, well it is not really about Danny Howells. but these telephone techs showed up at my house (there was only one) and he was acting all gay and wearing tight jeans and wiggling his butt around then when he was in the backyard working on the phone and I was working on my muttonheads dj mix and then this dude I kind of know jumps the fence and puts a gun to his head and I think he got kidnapped in my backyard. I never laughed so hard in my entire life. some crazy crazy off the wall stuff has happened in my backyard and my neighbors house behind me.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2008 04:21:

Re: Re: Re: What if a DJ was better than all the other djs

quote:
Originally posted by Vern Yip
i have a funny story about Danny Howells, well it is not really about Danny Howells. but these telephone techs showed up at my house (there was only one) and he was acting all gay and wearing tight jeans and wiggling his butt around then when he was in the backyard working on the phone and I was working on my muttonheads dj mix and then this dude I kind of know jumps the fence and puts a gun to his head and I think he got kidnapped in my backyard. I never laughed so hard in my entire life. some crazy crazy off the wall stuff has happened in my backyard and my neighbors house behind me.



...fapfapfap?


Posted by Neon Sky on Apr-13-2008 04:22:

Re: Re: Re: What if a DJ was better than all the other djs

quote:
Originally posted by Vern Yip
i have a funny story about Danny Howells, well it is not really about Danny Howells. but these telephone techs showed up at my house (there was only one) and he was acting all gay and wearing tight jeans and wiggling his butt around then when he was in the backyard working on the phone and I was working on my muttonheads dj mix and then this dude I kind of know jumps the fence and puts a gun to his head and I think he got kidnapped in my backyard. I never laughed so hard in my entire life. some crazy crazy off the wall stuff has happened in my backyard and my neighbors house behind me.



Posted by Vern Yip on Apr-13-2008 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
I've wanted to call alt this entire time, but this sealed the deal. You're an alt.

Though it was pretty obvious to begin with.
dude in my days when I was laying face down on the floor listening to paul van dyk play that song it reminded me of all the hoes I used to tap on. but it is kind of homoerotic sounding.


what is an alt?


Posted by Clovis on Apr-13-2008 04:22:

Re: Re: Re: What if a DJ was better than all the other djs

quote:
Originally posted by Vern Yip
i have a funny story about Danny Howells, well it is not really about Danny Howells. but these telephone techs showed up at my house (there was only one) and he was acting all gay and wearing tight jeans and wiggling his butt around then when he was in the backyard working on the phone and I was working on my muttonheads dj mix and then this dude I kind of know jumps the fence and puts a gun to his head and I think he got kidnapped in my backyard. I never laughed so hard in my entire life. some crazy crazy off the wall stuff has happened in my backyard and my neighbors house behind me.


Pretty low on the totem-pole huh Vern?


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