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Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-17-2008 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
why would the seller list something he doesn't have?

he could've had it yesterday but he sold it overnight and today he doesn't have it already but it's still there, listed in Discogs marketplace for me to anxiously jerk off, bite nails and stay awake at night waiting for the "yes, i still have it" response


Posted by skip on Apr-17-2008 08:24:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
he could've had it yesterday but he sold it overnight and today he doesn't have it already but it's still there, listed in Discogs marketplace for me to anxiously jerk off, bite nails and stay awake at night waiting for the "yes, i still have it" response



i think discogs automatically removes it from the marketplace once you've submitted your order. i could be wrong though. but there's the possibility that the seller has sold it elsewhere though, but that hasn't really got anything to do with discogs' system, more with the seller.


Posted by PezCore on Apr-18-2008 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
i think discogs automatically removes it from the marketplace once you've submitted your order.


yes it does, except if the seller sold it elsewhere overnight. I found most of my rare records over discogs, but sometimes sellers list their records has near mint and they are clearly very good+.. and sometimes prices are very high, but just be patient and you'll find very good deals on there.


Posted by skip on Apr-18-2008 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by PezCore
yes it does, except if the seller sold it elsewhere overnight. I found most of my rare records over discogs, but sometimes sellers list their records has near mint and they are clearly very good+.. and sometimes prices are very high, but just be patient and you'll find very good deals on there.



yeah. it's a decent place to buy from. but you gotta be careful. not trying to put the original poster off, just saying that it isn't necessarily quite the goldmine it might appear to be at first, especially if you like your records in mint of near mint condition.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Apr-18-2008 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
damn you scare me but where in the world am I gonna get those extra-rare records if not from secondhand sources

oh..and I forgot to ask: does the complaint system on Paypal really work??? is their a slight possibility of getting your money back if you received a bad record or haven't received anything at all?


User your VISA or AMEX etc. that way you can always dispute the charge for non receipt of goods or services, this can be done even if you have tried to get Paypal to help, sadly it is paypal that has to pay via that way but hey, why should they offer a service and then not carry any responsiblity for it.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-18-2008 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
User your VISA or AMEX etc. that way you can always dispute the charge for non receipt of goods or services, this can be done even if you have tried to get Paypal to help, sadly it is paypal that has to pay via that way but hey, why should they offer a service and then not carry any responsiblity for it.

Cheers
Nem


do you mean I shouldn't use Paypal but use direct payment instead? sorry, i'm a noob at these banking matters


Posted by skip on Apr-19-2008 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by skip

but i'll have more experience with the complaint system soon though as i most likely have to file a complaint about the 2 records that the dude i ordered them from hasn't shipped. i'll report back on how it turns out if i remember.



well, i filed the complaint. didn't take long for the guy to e-mail me and tell me he's very very sorry and that he forgot to send the records or something like that. he said he'll send them right away. we'll see how it turns out. i do find it interesting that he didn't reply any of my previous e-mails but replied almost immediately after i made the complaint.


Posted by Unique2701 on Apr-20-2008 00:06:

I haven't had much trouble buying through Ebay. I mostly buy old CDs I missed out on, I used to buy vinyls too but end up finding it too unpractical (too much money for 2 tracks - 1 track/four mixes).

Say 1/5 times the product is much more used than I expected. And sometimes the CD cover gets damaged during the transport, which annoys the shit out of me. I've always received what I bought, though last time it took about 1,5 month for a CD from Germany to be delivered. He had a positive feedback of 99,3%. I had to sent 3 e-mails and file for a complain at Paypal before I got my CD. He never once replied nor did he send a note with the package.

Only bought on Discogs and GEMM once, went all well. I did notice that stuff is more expensive on Discogs compared to Ebay in general, could be just the stuff I'm interested in though. However, if you plan on buying more stuff, you could save on postage costs if you'll buy more from the same seller. I recently "discovered" how much help Discogs can be with that, it can show which seller has the most items you have in your wantlist


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-20-2008 06:56:

ok, my first steps (besides the orders i've made at HTFR and Chemical Records, which are already on their way )



had to bargain on the price of an extra-rare Maji Na Damu record (see PvD-PoD #1) till we closed the deal at 31,5 GBP


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-20-2008 07:40:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
ok, my first steps (besides the orders i've made at HTFR and Chemical Records, which are already on their way )



had to bargain on the price of an extra-rare Maji Na Damu record (see PvD-PoD #1) till we closed the deal at 31,5 GBP


never ever use HTFR. seriously.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-20-2008 07:58:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
never ever use HTFR. seriously.

why?


Posted by THE_Chris on Apr-20-2008 18:19:

They sell liveset rips and amateur-made reconstructions of setrips and tunes. Dont use them!

quote:
Originally posted by Unique2701
I recently "discovered" how much help Discogs can be with that



Posted by Kevin_Cheung on Apr-21-2008 05:50:

Haha

I used vinyl from 2001 until 2007.

First thing I got in 07 was Traktor Scratch, using Vinyl Emulation.

Then I sold that last month and bought the M-Audio Torq Xponent.

OH MAN IT'S LIGHT. Easy to set up. SOOO portable. I used to hate CD player type controllers or CD players in general, but man now I'm used to it and it's just awesome.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-21-2008 06:25:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
They sell liveset rips and amateur-made reconstructions of setrips and tunes. Dont use them!

damn.. ummmm....
well.. i just hope the shipment won't be a fuckup


Posted by DJ Z on Apr-23-2008 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by djimmersion
Call me crazy but I actually downgraded to vinyl, partly beacuse I have had very bad experiances with the Numark CDN95 Dual CD player, in less then a year one of the CD drives failed, I took it in to get it fixed, and whithin a month it failed again, and the other CD drive is following the same fate, so now i use Numark TTXUSB's and i have gotten nothing but love from them, they are th most reliable peices of gear I have, and IMO vinyl is alot easier for me to use then CD, probably beacuse I have had so many problems with the CDN95 not working properly



i did the same thing...went from CDs to vinyl...one reason is that there has been a big move to CDs, so it's actually a better time to go vinyl now...because following the crowd is not smart.

i spin both now.

it's like buying stocks: when everyone is buying, it really means that it's time to sell....


Posted by Kevin_Cheung on Apr-23-2008 01:16:

Stocks can actually go up in value though, your vinyl won't. I have a nice collection of vinyl from the last 7 years. But come on Vinyl is like 15 bucks. I can by 7 exclusive priced tracks on Beatport. It just makes no sense.

The other thread talks about how DJs get paid less, it's kind of a necessity too.

Sure Vinyl sounds better, but most people can't tell at a club. And you don't have to lug 50 lbs record bag around.


Posted by djimmersion on Apr-23-2008 05:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Kevin_Cheung
But come on Vinyl is like 15 bucks. I can by 7 exclusive priced tracks on Beatport. It just makes no sense.


that may be true for dance because more lables are putting their stuff on CD and digital formats, but Im from THE BAY and I spin urban music, and most urban cuts that are DJ friendly are found on vinyl, from where I am in san jose anyways, plus I found a ton of unreleased tracks and stuff on vinyl

dont get me wrong, I LOVE dance music, but its not populer in san jose unfortunatly, but its an interesting thing that every dance paty i have DJ'ed at has been awsome, but only one or two urban parties have been good, and the rest were not that great


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-24-2008 08:16:

Maji Na Damu - L3D / B.W.Y. (12") cost me $62 USD.

James Holden - Kaern Turned (12") cost me $75 USD.

goodbye money. hello vinyl


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-25-2008 16:44:

alright! first parcel from HTFR containing 9 records has arrived
all in nice condition, but very very dusty due to static of course. they are so statically charged they literally glue to the slipmat and removing the slipmat from the record is just hilarious. 1 record has a stain at the very end of the track. don't have a clue what it is and it does not affects the sound very much. the bassline on vinyl is fucking orgasm


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