TTC service to STOP Monday @ 4am--TTC STRIKE

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Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-17-2008 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis
Litter picker - $21.11/hour
Cleaner/janitor (outside workers� contract) - $19.56/hour
Garbage collector - $24.14/hour
First class firefighter - $33.73/hour
Bus/subway driver (with 12 months experience or more) � $26.58/hour
TTC token/cash collector (with 12 months experience or more) - $26.58/hour
Meter reader - $26.39/hour
Gas pump operator - $21.79/hour
Mail car driver - $22.68/hour

Yearly

Litter picker - $42k
Cleaner/janitor (outside workers� contract) - $38k
Garbage collector - $48k
First class firefighter - $66k
Bus/subway driver (with 12 months experience or more) � $52k
TTC token/cash collector (with 12 months experience or more) - $52k
Meter reader - $52k
Gas pump operator - $42k
Mail car driver - $44k

* does not include benefits (pension, health, drug, etc)
* does not include overtime

Posted by UmmiE on Apr-17-2008 17:57:

Posted by djeso on Apr-17-2008 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Fire them all!

That's what I say!

Take The Car services

Posted by exstasie on Apr-17-2008 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker

* does not include benefits (pension, health, drug, etc)
* does not include overtime

and since they are part of a union, you can bet those benefits and overtime are pretty damn decent!

Posted by djeso on Apr-17-2008 18:03:

Some people don't appreciate what they've got until it's gone, I'm pretty sure that eventually TTC will go the contract way vs employment, just like Canada Post is doing so these days.

Posted by smuncky on Apr-17-2008 18:06:

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Originally posted by exstasie
Just over $51,000 if its 37.5 hours per week. $55,000 if its 40 hours per week.

That's pretty damn good if you ask me to drive a bus around.

buses are actually one the hardest jobs to do. i'm not saying that they don't get paid enough, but it certainly is not an easy job. however, booth collectors and all that other shit is overpaid. subway driver i'm kinda iffy about. it's easier than driving a bus, but theres still a certain level of work to be done.

Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-17-2008 18:07:

I have no problem with what experienced/skilled drivers are paid. They keep passengers safe and do their job diligently.

I have a problem with the fishbowl sitters, token/pass watchers, streetcar-stop wranglers and street supervisors who do little (nothing?) to add to the value chain.

Posted by smuncky on Apr-17-2008 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I have no problem with what experienced, skilled drivers are paid. They keep passengers safe and do their job diligently.

I have a problem with the fishbowl sitters, token/pass watchers, streetcar wranglers and street supervisors who do little (nothing?) to add to the value chain.

that sums up my feelings as well.

Posted by smuncky on Apr-17-2008 18:10:

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Originally posted by exstasie
The TTC still contributed $1 Million of their own money...no?

it was already allocated for the station revitalization program. that money would not have gone to pay for anyones salary on the ttc.

Posted by Dr. DAS on Apr-17-2008 18:10:

If they strike, I'm so going down to Davisville with a megaphone and super-soaker.

1 ruckus, coming up!

Posted by exstasie on Apr-17-2008 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
buses are actually one the hardest jobs to do. i'm not saying that they don't get paid enough, but it certainly is not an easy job. however, booth collectors and all that other shit is overpaid. subway driver i'm kinda iffy about. it's easier than driving a bus, but theres still a certain level of work to be done.

True. I guess it does require some level of experience to drive a bus.

But I agree with the token collectors and the others. They just sit around on their ass and do shit all for most of the day.

I'm not sure exactly what the subway drivers actually do, but I know a lot of them do shit all as well. I was on the subway the other day and the dude was sitting in his booth play with his PSP the entire time. He looked out the booth every once in a while, but not much more than that!

Posted by TO guy on Apr-17-2008 18:14:

1 downtown parking spot for rent.

Posted by Rook on Apr-17-2008 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis
You know what pisses me off about the TTC is when I pay 1.75 in bunch of change they don't even look or they tell me to have a nice day. But when I actually pay 2.75 in change they question me and tell me that wasn't 2.75 that I put in.

LOL.. i do the same whenever i use the TTC. majority of the time the collectors aren't paying attention, or they are not there.

Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-17-2008 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis
Litter picker - $21.11/hour
Cleaner/janitor (outside workers� contract) - $19.56/hour
Garbage collector - $24.14/hour
First class firefighter - $33.73/hour
Bus/subway driver (with 12 months experience or more) � $26.58/hour
TTC token/cash collector (with 12 months experience or more) - $26.58/hour
Meter reader - $26.39/hour
Gas pump operator - $21.79/hour
Mail car driver - $22.68/hour

all but one are unionized non skilled labour.

Now imagine the real world. Tell me that a busy day at mcdonalds is easier than these jobs for example. (exception being a firefighter of course)

Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-17-2008 18:31:

I think the whole city should send an invoice to the ttc and david miller for any lost employment hours as a result of this strike. Id love it if some judge somewhere actually upheld them as viable invoices too!

Posted by Yohan on Apr-17-2008 18:36:

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Originally posted by Jayx1
I think the whole city should send an invoice to the ttc and david miller for any lost employment hours as a result of this strike. Id love it if some judge somewhere actually upheld them as viable invoices too!

lol. like this is ever going to happen

Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-17-2008 18:46:

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Originally posted by Yohan
lol. like this is ever going to happen

but nothing is stopping people from sending an invoice as a protest. If everyone did it surely it would get noticed and it would be an assessment as to how much the economy suffers because of this BS. Perhaps then we can finally get support behind dismantling this union and improving service at a reasonable cost.

Posted by Halycon on Apr-17-2008 20:14:

i better get the late shifts next week, cuz if they strike imma taking the heel toe express every day there and back..

Posted by Halycon on Apr-17-2008 20:14:

edit: accidental double post

Posted by Frenchie on Apr-17-2008 20:18:

That's why they let you know ahead of time, that way you can try and find an alternative to get where you are going. So never say you didn't have time to find another ride.

Posted by kotsy on Apr-17-2008 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis
Bus/subway driver (with 12 months experience or more) � $26.58/hour
TTC token/cash collector (with 12 months experience or more) - $26.58/hour

I can't believe TTC pays these guys the same amount of money.
Clearly the drivers deserve more money (although both are overpaid).

TTC is the first place I'm applying to when I move to Toronto. I could definitely live with a strike every few years.

Posted by UmmiE on Apr-17-2008 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
I can't believe TTC pays these guys the same amount of money.
Clearly the drivers deserve more money (although both are overpaid).

TTC is the first place I'm applying to when I move to Toronto. I could definitely live with a strike every few years.

Trust me bro its bad......a regular job is liek 10 bucks but Govt jobs are like freakin 18.00 to 21.00/hr.......Good luck with getting a job in TTC ..... It all depends on who you know or if anyone you know works there.Plus all the govt jobs have tricks and trick of their own to get their own friends and relitives.

Posted by kotsy on Apr-17-2008 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
Trust me bro its bad......a regular job is liek 10 bucks but Govt jobs are like freakin 18.00 to 21.00/hr.......Good luck with getting a job in TTC ..... It all depends on who you know or if anyone you know works there.Plus all the govt jobs have tricks and trick of their own to get their own friends and relitives.

My cousin is, and I quote... "Executive Assistant to the Chief General Manager"

Posted by slingshot on Apr-17-2008 20:39:

Ridiculous. They definately do not need to be making any more money.

Unions = Bad News

Posted by UmmiE on Apr-17-2008 20:47:

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Originally posted by kotsy
My cousin is, and I quote... "Executive Assistant to the Chief General Manager"

I'll email you my resume when I go home tonight.....Make sure your online on msn after 10pm plz.

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