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Couldn't tell the difference - but I do have shitty speakers right now and this sort of music isn't exactly the sound my ears are used to.

I put in my senn hd's and had to listen a few times before I knew which one it was, and even then I couldn't tell by the voice. The instrumentals were the giveaway.

It was a tricky clip.

Couldn't tell the difference. I think it'd be easier to tell in dance music, as the hi-hats and such distort.

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Originally posted by distant Couldn't tell the difference. I think it'd be easier to tell in dance music, as the hi-hats and such distort.

And as they said the sound recording on the 128 was worse. Aren't they supposed to be the same thing? I find its easiest to hear low bitrate with pads/strings and really melodious stuff and such. As well as deep bass. Even if I can't tell the first time the difference(although here I was tired and listening on shitty speakers)... it doesn't mean I don't enjoy the higher bitrate one more.

I got it right listening from my $50 headphones, but I had to listen a couple of times to be sure.

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Originally posted by distant Couldn't tell the difference. I think it'd be easier to tell in dance music, as the hi-hats and such distort.

Plus the bass distorts somewhat and subtle rumbles are lost. Also, higher quality tracks sound noticeably fuller.

easy. should be more samples to show that i can do it everytime.

Too easy.

i got it wrong with my not so good speakers that aren't positioned optimally for listening at the computer. my gf was also doing some stuff that makes noise while i listened. gotta try with headphones later on and concentrate really well.

i would have thought i'd hear the difference easily. guess not then.

and i agree with people saying, that there should be a site with lots of samples of different music and it should give you statistics afterwards. would be cool to know how much of a difference different compressions actually make.

yup thats too easy, like asking if you can tell the difference between bluray and dvd
ok maybe not that big, but still easy

Telling different bitrates apart also heavily depends on the encoder used. For example, ancient Xing MP3 encoder or even L3Enc by Fhg sounds sh*tty at any given bitrate, while the latest LAME builds make it really difficult, especially with electronic music.

You would think with the size of todays hard drives and had fast the Internet has gotten we would see the last of 128 Kb/s MP3's....

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Originally posted by schlauf Telling different bitrates apart also heavily depends on the encoder used. For example, ancient Xing MP3 encoder or even L3Enc by Fhg sounds sh*tty at any given bitrate, while the latest LAME builds make it really difficult, especially with electronic music.

do anyone use anything but lame?

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Originally posted by Keown You would think with the size of todays hard drives and had fast the Internet has gotten we would see the last of 128 Kb/s MP3's....

the ipod generation doesnt give a shit about quality, its all about how much music they can steal they they will never listen to, and how much they can cram on an ipod.

technology is actually the enemy of quality. Just buy your stuff and problem solved.

i think that only listening for the first time you can tell about "hearing" the difference, later on when you know which sample is which it is more about convincing yourself that you actually hear it

indeed should have been a longer test, with atleast 3 options available. i did pick the right one, but i didn't think there was that big of a difference. in edm i think it matters even less since there are more synthetic sounds and not much natural real instruments.

anyone remember where was that test online, where they had few "experts" testing between 128kbps - 320kbps - wav, with high quality equipment. and none of them got it completely right, some even chose the 128kbps few times.

anyone with any hearing ability can tell a difference between 128 and 320. I would never play anything below 320 on a good system, or a shite one for that matter.

Would love to see more "questions" to test this out

I'll make some tests with more genres for you guys in a bit.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I'll make some tests with more genres for you guys in a bit.

Great.... but would you mind encoding from original WAVs or CDs? (ie... don't downsample an already-encoded mp3, or use an mp3 you already have)

Most of them will be encoded from original CDs.

Nifty

Does ten samples sound good?

As many as you're willing to do, IMO.

How are you going to post the samples without us being able to see the bitrate? Use some sort of flash player or something?

edit: Nevermind, saw the other thread

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Originally posted by david.michael How are you going to post the samples without us being able to see the bitrate? Use some sort of flash player or something?

I just put both MP3s in a WAV file.

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