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Originally posted by leph555

turtles are cool yo?

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Also, My computer usage has actually gotten a lot lower as I have gotten older. I prefer to go out with friends than be on the computer. When I have a job, I try to do things with friends, away from the internet/computer that promote social interaction.

I've stopped using instant messenger, that's for sure. Also, this semester has been slower than before, but during the previous 2 sometimes I wouldn't turn my computer on for almost a week (well, I had a computer at work, but I only went there every other day). So I'd go without email for 2, 3 days at a time and it was FINE.

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Originally posted by idoru Even though I started using the internetwebs when I was about, say, ten or eleven, I still don't see how anybody can see life without it as something "weird" or "odd." Hell, most of you posting here didn't have it when you were younger so you already know just how fun and exciting life can be when you don't have it. It's not a "strange" concept at all.

Exactly. Most of us grew up without internet, I probably saw my first computer when I was 12 or 13, life was still fun without computers/internet.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel From personal experience, I can say that I wish I was limited with my usage of the internet more. I was on it way to much, and developed social skills way late. It hasn't really been that detrimental to me now, as I did start getting out early enough to offset it mostly, but I do still have situations I am unsure of. I know I will be limiting my kids (if I have any) time with tv and internet. I won't control them in what they can and can't eat/watch too much, because it just leads to over indulgence later in life, but won't allow them to just spend all their time with the internet or watching TV.

I think that's a problem - TV and internet delaying social development. I feel like it happened for me too.

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Originally posted by whiskers I've stopped using instant messenger, that's for sure. Also, this semester has been slower than before, but during the previous 2 sometimes I wouldn't turn my computer on for almost a week (well, I had a computer at work, but I only went there every other day). So I'd go without email for 2, 3 days at a time and it was FINE.

I still use IM, but I use the phone a lot more now than I did. It keeps me connected still, but gives me the social interaction to keep developing my social skills.

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I think that's a problem - TV and internet delaying social development. I feel like it happened for me too.

I know for a fact that it did delay my social development. I am almost 25, and I still have areas I could easily improve. It really amazes me how much I have learned with regards to social development and how different things affect that developing area. I have even, at least when I had a job, stopped posting on TA for extended periods of time. At first I would have withdrawals. Not because I had no contact with other people, but it just has, at times, become to prevalent in my daily life. After a couple days, I get past that. I know once I find a job again, once I get my first paycheck, I won't be on my computer much anymore.

without reading the thread....

replace 'computer' with TV, books, or any other common time sink of the 21st century, and you obtain the same result. I agree completely - there is nothing that would replace real human interaction. It's beautiful, and so many of us have all too little of it. I 'woke up' a few months ago, and am happier than I have ever been.

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Originally posted by silene without reading the thread.... replace 'computer' with TV, books, or any other common time sink of the 21st century, and you obtain the same result. I agree completely - there is nothing that would replace real human interaction. It's beautiful, and so many of us have all too little of it. I 'woke up' a few months ago, and am happier than I have ever been.

Agreed. And yeah, "waking up" is good. It is so liberating.

I think this topic is going to be discussed to great extent over the next few years, and it will lead to a social and cultural revolution. I think for many people time has sped up and less life has been lived due to the computer/internet. If you havent noticed time flies by faster and the years feel shorter, Its already May but I remember New Years like it was yesterday.

I think part of the reason why Youtube is so popular is that it has brought that FEELING of real life connectivity amongst people that had been missing it ever since a decrease in real social interaction after the rise of the computer/internet, especially for those who have been "shackled" to computers. So social networking sites are in a way a simulated experience of real life socialising and that is one of the underlining reasons for its popularity. The question is though, in the longterm can Youtube, Myspace, and other social networking sites be a viable substitute to real life socialising? Will these social networking sites keep the hounds at bay? What about the allure of the other parts of the internet...will they fade? Will people want to break away and live a more natural life outside of the internet? Will there be an emergence of a rebellious non internet using society within society? Questions must be answered...

::back to Youtube::

bumpskizzle

this is somewhat rediculous...youtube has replaced your life? get A FUCKING JOB, or go outside once a month.

i understand that the internet/computer can fill your time, but that is your deal, blaming it on an inanimate object is stupid.

i remember computers before the internet, i remember them at the dawn of the internet, and i managed to waste just as much time, its just that i played more games!

i have been a member of these forums since before vbulletin and i can tell you a shitload has happened to me in 8+ years, largely none of it had to do with the internet. some, yes, but totally marginal.

i know what it is like to be in uni and bored and sitting at the monitor bored off your shitter. if you choose to do that, its YOU not the computer|

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Originally posted by biznology this is somewhat rediculous...youtube has replaced your life? get A FUCKING JOB, or go outside once a month. i understand that the internet/computer can fill your time, but that is your deal, blaming it on an inanimate object is stupid. i remember computers before the internet, i remember them at the dawn of the internet, and i managed to waste just as much time, its just that i played more games! i have been a member of these forums since before vbulletin and i can tell you a shitload has happened to me in 8+ years, largely none of it had to do with the internet. some, yes, but totally marginal. i know what it is like to be in uni and bored and sitting at the monitor bored off your shitter. if you choose to do that, its YOU not the computer|

I can't decide whether you hold the opinion that if you're right then everyone else is wrong, or just totally missed the point of this thread. Maybe both.

Re: Life without a computer...

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred is the secret of attaining the greatest joy and excitement of living. Living dangerously! Socializing! Believe me, I just returned from Cancun and as soon as I saw my computer I felt shitty. I'm not even talking about partying all the time and relaxing, but while I was there I'd met people from different parts of the world and I'd realized nothing at all compares to human beings bonding and being together (not on the internet but in life!). Perhaps I may yet move to Mexico city - me and my traveling companion talked about it. Such a different lifestyle...rather simple - go to work, meet with some friends after for some beer, and the day is done. Nobody is rushing to and fro, everyone works at their own pace, and at night they gather in the streets or by the beach somewhere and have some beers and laughs without worrying about getting a deuced ticket for drinking in public. They may not make a lot of money but they certainly seem less bound to the shackles of everyday existence than we people in the States are. I'll end this now. Back to reality, eh?

wurd chu yer mudder.

http://www.cracked.com/article_1523...-miserable.html

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles http://www.cracked.com/article_1523...-miserable.html

booked for future reading/reference

I've been without internet for a week, didn't really think about it.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Between last Saturday and the Saturday before that, I stopped using the Internet except for my school e-mail. [You can check; I have no posts then.] During that time, I used my computer basically for nothing but making music. It became just a musical instrument for me rather than a gateway to a "lifestyle" of interconnectedness and constant distraction. It was a very interesting experience. Since the hours each day that I normally spend on the net were entirely freed up, it seemed like each day went so much more slowly. Time seemed to crawl.. When I use the Internet, I go all out: I have multiple tabs open, constantly scanning pages and clicking on links, uploading files of various kinds, more or less in a constant state of multi-tasking, a.k.a. distraction and getting not much of anything done. Because I'm so distracted, time seems to fly by. Taking away the Internet takes away a lot of the potential for that distracted state, and the day seems to last a lot longer. It seems like there's so much more time to do things, and I get more interested in what's going on outside the world of computers and the web. Since Saturday I've been back to spending hours each day on the net. And here I sit with my headphones on, soaking in the neverending flow of information, back in the perpetual search for pages that will interest or amuse me for all of ten minutes each if I'm lucky. I could be doing much more interesting things, things with some kind of consequences, and yet I keep at this out of inertia.

Try going a week without even using a computer at all. No games, no music making, no word processing, no emailing.

It's very relaxing.

Your arms and wrists will feel very loose all of a sudden.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles http://www.cracked.com/article_1523...-miserable.html

Great read.

Very logical, funny and concise.

I agree with most of it.

Bump...

Found a little Today Show segment on Youtube:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vmEErhy7AIc

It shows the managing editor of Forbes magazine attempting to go without his Blackberry, e-mail, and cell phone. On the fourth day without them he really breaks down and says, "Give me my fucking phone back!", and the Today Show people oblige.

Could you manage a whole week without any Internet or cell phone -- without becoming a nervous wreck?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Bump... Found a little Today Show segment on Youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vmEErhy7AIc It shows the managing editor of Forbes magazine attempting to go without his Blackberry, e-mail, and cell phone. On the fourth day without them he really breaks down and says, "Give me my fucking phone back!", and the Today Show people oblige. Could you manage a whole week without any Internet or cell phone -- without becoming a nervous wreck?

Honestly, I couldn't. Not because I can't live without them, but because I don't watch much tv, and I love to read things online.

Another comment on that segment...

Sometimes I've thought of leaving my cell phone at home and driving straight out to west Texas to do a bit of sight-seeing for a few days, just being completely alone and unreachable.

Then the "what ifs" pile up, many of them having to do with my car, which runs just fine, breaking down in the middle of nowhere, or someone I know getting into some crisis or other, even though my friends and family live safe and mostly crisis-free lives. And I find that my original idea of driving out there without any means of communication strikes me as "reckless" and somehow dangerous.

How retarded is that?

Then again, maybe I could take my cell phone but leave it off unless an emergency happened.

It's funny, when cell phones first started becoming popular, that's the justification I often heard people use for getting them: "I'll only use it in case of some kind of emergency." It's what my parents said, and for a long time my dad resisted the creeping trend by leaving his cell phone off most of the time.

Rudeness no longer consists of suddenly interrupting a conversation to go to talk to someone else. Now it's considered rude to not interrupt whatever you're doing to talk to whoever wants to reach you at that moment. Whatever happened to the phrase, "If it's important, they'll leave a message"? That's what my parents used to say whenever the phone would ring during dinner. Then again, it could be an emergency, so you really should answer that phone, shouldn't you?

It's funny to me how the proliferation of technology can make something seem risky or irresponsible when only fifteen years ago people did it without a second thought.

Sometimes I feel like I'm already a crotchety old fart.

I need the net because at the minimum, I'd like to keep up with what's going on in the world.

i was raised by brits, i'm a cold hearted mother******

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Another comment on that segment... Sometimes I've thought of leaving my cell phone at home and driving straight out to west Texas to do a bit of sight-seeing for a few days, just being completely alone and unreachable. Then the "what ifs" pile up, many of them having to do with my car, which runs just fine, breaking down in the middle of nowhere, or someone I know getting into some crisis or other, even though my friends and family live safe and mostly crisis-free lives. And I find that my original idea of driving out there without any means of communication strikes me as "reckless" and somehow dangerous. How retarded is that? Then again, maybe I could take my cell phone but leave it off unless an emergency happened. It's funny, when cell phones first started becoming popular, that's the justification I often heard people use for getting them: "I'll only use it in case of some kind of emergency." It's what my parents said, and for a long time my dad resisted the creeping trend by leaving his cell phone off most of the time. Rudeness no longer consists of suddenly interrupting a conversation to go to talk to someone else. Now it's considered rude to not interrupt whatever you're doing to talk to whoever wants to reach you at that moment. Whatever happened to the phrase, "If it's important, they'll leave a message"? That's what my parents used to say whenever the phone would ring during dinner. Then again, it could be an emergency, so you really should answer that phone, shouldn't you? It's funny to me how the proliferation of technology can make something seem risky or irresponsible when only fifteen years ago people did it without a second thought. Sometimes I feel like I'm already a crotchety old fart.

Well the reason this changed was due to the plans going from $.25/minute to selling blocks of minutes. Something of which has become quite cheap. Unfortunately this has resulted in a culture that doesn't know how to leave a message, or just wait for the person to call back. I personally never leave messages, but I also never call 10 times in a row. If I do, it is for a damn good reason.

Oh and I ignore phone calls all the time. Just depends on the situation.

Also, I say you just bring it with you but turn it off. It is worth it.

yes, latin america is alot more laid back than the u.s for the obvious reasons.

if you go to mexico or any country in south america, chivalry and comradeship is almost expected.

on the other hand, people work less. people are poorer, they lack education so certain conversations will lack depth and insight. i can't live like that, i need to be stimulated by the constant to-and-fro of the good ol' american dream.

I used Myspace for about 4 months back in 2006. Next thing I know, I'm getting lost on that site for 3 or 4 hours a day. Then one day I was like, "what the fuck am I doing? All the people I'm really friends with, I talk to on the phone and/or see on a daily basis in real life... why make a redundant cyber version of what exists in reality already?" ALl those other random people I've never met sending friends requests, getting all involved in trying to figure out what people were up to by reading their comments pages, and choosing the order of who's in the "top 8" mean nothing to me. Too many evil temptations lurking on there also if you're in a relationship. Once I cancelled that shit, I felt a whole lot better. Check out this BBC article from today about how Facebook is kind of taking the joy out of reality for those kids who spend a ton of time on there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7487723.stm

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Originally posted by The17sss I used Myspace for about 4 months back in 2006. Next thing I know, I'm getting lost on that site for 3 or 4 hours a day. Then one day I was like, "what the fuck am I doing? All the people I'm really friends with, I talk to on the phone and/or see on a daily basis in real life... why make a redundant cyber version of what exists in reality already?" ALl those other random people I've never met sending friends requests, getting all involved in trying to figure out what people were up to by reading their comments pages, and choosing the order of who's in the "top 8" mean nothing to me. Too many evil temptations lurking on there also if you're in a relationship. Once I cancelled that shit, I felt a whole lot better. Check out this BBC article from today about how Facebook is kind of taking the joy out of reality for those kids who spend a ton of time on there. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7487723.stm

My facebook has no friends I don't already know. I don't add people that I don't know in some form or fashion better than just a "hi" in the halls.

My ISP went nuts this week and I'm seriously thinking of not having internet at home any more. I can still have access to the intarweb at work, after all, and so far I don't feel I'm missing much.

I still need to get rid of Civilisation II, though. What a time waster that is

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