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Posted by silene on May-04-2008 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
if it was people you wouldn't be taking that job. you have clearly chosen money.


i only took it because i wouldn't be able to pay my bills otherwise. it wasn't a choice made lightly since I can get depressed when without social interaction, but it was a necessary sacrifice.


Posted by Krypton on May-04-2008 00:33:

I want my work to be something I love. Money will follow. I don't think I've ever met a millionaire who didn't love what they do...


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-04-2008 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
if it was people you wouldn't be taking that job. you have clearly chosen money.




I'm pretty sure that's exactly what she was saying.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I want my work to be something I love. Money will follow. I don't think I've ever met a millionaire who didn't love what they do...


how are you meeting millionaires? besides my bosses, who are probably millionaires, the only other millionaire i've knowingly met is larry silverstein, and that was because he was doing a presentation at my school.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what she was saying.


the last two words in her post were "people, definitely," right after saying she was taking the job because she needed money. i'm not sure what you are getting at, but it sounded to me like she took a job because of money when another job was available that had a better work environment.

i get that it doesn't directly hit the point of the initial question because he said make alot of money, but the choice was still money over people. whether there was a valid reason for the choice is irrelevant because when it gets boiled down to the core reason, its all the same: we want/need money.


Posted by Krypton on May-04-2008 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
how are you meeting millionaires? besides my bosses, who are probably millionaires, the only other millionaire i've knowingly met is larry silverstein, and that was because he was doing a presentation at my school.


I've met the CEO of a computer software company in Germany, and a guy whose real estate portfolio is worth 1 million plus. I also met this one dude in an afterhours club who was rolling face who was a millionaire. The guy had a lambourgini parked out in the parking lot and he was askin me for a light show in his face...some like to live it up...but what I've learned in who I've met, and watched in business, is that the majority of self-made millionaires love what they do. Work is fun for them. I know I'm on my way there because I love doing stock analysis. I don't have anything in the way of wealth, but I know one day, the money will come. Now is the time to work my ass off to get my big break to the top...


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-04-2008 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
the last two words in her post were "people, definitely," right after saying she was taking the job because she needed money. i'm not sure what you are getting at, but it sounded to me like she took a job because of money when another job was available that had a better work environment.

i get that it doesn't directly hit the point of the initial question because he said make alot of money, but the choice was still money over people. whether there was a valid reason for the choice is irrelevant because when it gets boiled down to the core reason, its all the same: we want/need money.




You're stupid...she said "I really need the money at this point in my life, but I would never take this job otherwise. So, people, definitely."

So yes, she admits she's CURRENTLY choosing money over people, but her preference is people. Get some fucking reading comprehension, lol.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I've met the CEO of a computer software company in Germany, and a guy whose real estate portfolio is worth 1 million plus. I also met this one dude in an afterhours club who was rolling face who was a millionaire. The guy had a lambourgini parked out in the parking lot and he was askin me for a light show in his face...some like to live it up...but what I've learned in who I've met, and watched in business, is that the majority of self-made millionaires love what they do. Work is fun for them. I know I'm on my way there because I love doing stock analysis. I don't have anything in the way of wealth, but I know one day, the money will come. Now is the time to work my ass off to get my big break to the top...


that's donny deutsches mantra....love what you do. while you're not wrong that self-employed millionaires love what they do, the reality is that there are definitely a good number of other millionaires who aren't self employed that probably hate their jobs. I don't know many lawyers that like their work, but i know there are plenty of lawyers with well over $1 million in net worth. I suspect a good amount of investment bankers don't like their jobs too much, and if you get into I-Banking having a net worth of seven figures is almost inevitable.

Also, you can love what you do and hate who you work with. those two aren't mutually exclusive. I actually hate my job and like my co-workers.


Posted by silene on May-04-2008 00:48:

well, let's say i had an offer between a job that offered little to no social interaction, but paid really well, and a job that still paid the bills but was socially-oriented. I'd take the second without question.

Oh, and I'm a guy .


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-04-2008 00:49:

Hahah, woops! Dunno why I thought you were a girl.


Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on May-04-2008 00:50:

Neither, I want to like what I do. Since when isnt that an option?!


Posted by bas on May-04-2008 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Hahah, woops! Dunno why I thought you were a girl.

Silene sounds like "Celine"


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
You're stupid...she said "I really need the money at this point in my life, but I would never take this job otherwise. So, people, definitely."

So yes, she admits she's CURRENTLY choosing money over people, but her preference is people. Get some fucking reading comprehension, lol.


wow....very civil are we. i know what he said, that doesn't change that his choice was money, despite his difficult financial times. People have many different reasons for taking money, needing it is a very good reason.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-04-2008 00:51:

Annnnnnnnnd you're a lawyer? LoL.


Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on May-04-2008 00:53:

Hey Im probably going to law school (although, admittedly, not to *be* a lawyer).


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Annnnnnnnnd you're a lawyer? LoL.


what it is you do?


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Hey Im probably going to law school (although, admittedly, not to *be* a lawyer).


i would highly advise against that.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-04-2008 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
what it is you do?



Why?


Posted by tubularbills on May-04-2008 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Neither, I want to like what I do. Since when isnt that an option?!


wouldn't liking what you do entail those aroudn you?

say you liked the physical work you were doing, but you had 20 people around you that were sucky, and you couldn't get away from them....

you can ask the same thing about location too. would you rather have a job where the location sucks, but you like what you do/people you work with? or have a job in a sweet location, but hate going to work everyday/people that are there.


Posted by Ian on May-04-2008 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Why?


just tell him jen, tell him about your secret life as a callgirl. Well secret until we saw you rumbled at RJs house on Cops last month. <3


Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on May-04-2008 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
i would highly advise against that.


Oh really? Thank you! Glad I didnt make an obviously poor life decision... TA to the rescue.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Why?


why not?


Posted by guerra-monstru on May-04-2008 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I want my work to be something I love. Money will follow. I don't think I've ever met a millionaire who didn't love what they do...

Here is one. I run factories for a pharmaceutical company in Mexico. And it is hard work, I am almost here at the factory office for probably 6 days a week 18hrs a day year round.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Oh really? Thank you! Glad I didnt make an obviously poor life decision... TA to the rescue.


i must be missing something here. if it's so obvious why the hell would you say you were going to law school not to be a lawyer.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-04-2008 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
just tell him jen, tell him about your secret life as a callgirl. Well secret until we saw you rumbled at RJs house on Cops last month. <3






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